OpenAI Lawyer: Labs Shouldn't Be Liable for AI Agent Hacking

3 days ago by nexguy to c/news

Although U.S. frontier firms created artificial intelligence agents that went on a hacking spree, breaking the laws of at least two countries, the engineers and
Godort 39 points 3 days ago

Man who is paid to say the company should not be liable: "The company should not be liable"

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badgermurphy 6 points 2 days ago

Well, at least he's doing his job! I hope they remember this moment during his annual performance review.

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capt_wolf 15 points 2 days ago

Sure, I bought the gun. I loaded it with live rounds. Yeah, I aimed it at the guy. I won't deny I pulled the trigger, either. However, once the bullet left the barrel, I stopped being responsible for it! The bullet killed him, not me!

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nexguy 7 points 2 days ago

Really your responsibility ends when the hammer hits the back of the bullet casing. I mean you aren't responsible for chemical reactions...

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adespoton 15 points 3 days ago

If any other dev lab had approached security the way they did, they’d be massively sued for negligence. And the suits would succeed.

We aren’t in the dot com bubble anymore.

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PattyMcB 6 points 2 days ago

I've started looking at the AI bubble just like the dot com bubble. In 10-15 years I'll be able to come out of retirement and make a boatload of money working on legacy systems because there won't be any experienced devs who were entry-level while all this shit was happening.

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plant 11 points 3 days ago

Ford was not responsible for the pinto, nor takata for their airbags, your honor

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bender223 10 points 2 days ago

so weird, if nobody is responsible for anything, what's the fucking point. no reason to trust the product. a bunch of babies. be a man, and own up to your shit.

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ScoffingLizard 8 points 3 days ago

Lets make defense bots that learn to kill evil people on their own, and then not be liable when billionaires die.

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badgermurphy 6 points 2 days ago

"Sure, we designed it, built it, taught it everything it knows, and are directing its actions, but holding us accountable for it is a bridge too far!"

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duckCityComplex 5 points a day ago

Your honor, when I took off the parking brake, put the car in neutral, and gave it a big push down the hill, it was in the interest of science, to see how far it would go. I think a lot hinges on intent here. It certainly was not my intent to mow down five children at a bus stop.

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krakloskewm 1 point a day ago

Your honour, in my defensd, the car went really fast like: vroooom and then it swerved on its own and everythjng was all: CRASH SMASH BANG BOOM SPERKLASH BANG and people were all running around screaming like "aaaaàah thr car just ran over my baby". So you sre, your jinour, even the infant's mother knows it was the car's fault. And most importantly, weve advanced science.

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jj4211 5 points 2 days ago

His point is that without intent there shouldn't be liability...

How could you even claim that as a lawyer. I wouldn't be surprised if most liability is without intent.

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Hazor 2 points a day ago

It's the only argument he's got.

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londos 4 points 2 days ago

Putting aside the obvious "yes they should," if they're not liable when bad things happen, they also shouldn't get any credit for good things.

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Treczoks 2 points a day ago

How about: it is a hacking tool that has been used to commit cyber crimes. It should be confiscated and destroyed.

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