Chess should end with king being taken, and king should be allowed to be placed into check.

2 days ago by u/lukmly013 đŸ’Ÿ (lemmy.sdf.org) to c/unpopularopinion

It's already both happened to me that I didn't notice I couldn't move a piece without exposing the king or that I won by accident. Had the game not announced this, I wouldn't have known.

And perhaps the opponent might not notice my mistake either. Or it could just be a strategic high-risk scenario, rather than a mistake.

yesman 21 points 2 days ago

Chess has been extensively play tested and the balance is peak.

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Kolanaki 10 points 2 days ago

They still haven't fixed the board flip glitch or the "look over there" exploit that allows you to rearrange the board if your opponent actually looks.

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agamemnonymous 10 points 2 days ago

Not to mention that there's nothing in the rules to prevent you from putting a mirror behind your opponent so you can see the location of their pieces

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thr0w4w4y2 3 points 2 days ago

knights are OP and need to be nerfed tbh

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nibbler 3 points a day ago

If you think the knights are OP, wait till you find out about the knook!

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gastroglizzy 18 points 2 days ago

Technically, chess ends one turn before the king is taken. "Checkmate" basically means, "I can capture your king next turn of I want to and there's no way you can avoid it."

You're not allowed to put your own king in check because, if this were allowed, stalemate wouldn't be possible; the game would always end with the loser moving their king into check and the winner taking it. The rule allows the player of a losing game to still play for a draw, as opposed to simply resigning.

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deegeese 2 points 2 days ago

Can you explain how stalemates would be impossible if you could self-check? Functionally I don’t see how that’s any different from resigning.

You could still stalemate by avoiding check and causing threefold repetition.

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Akasazh 4 points 2 days ago

If you self-check, your opponents next move is always to take the king and win. Check means 'if it's my turn I can capture your king'.

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deegeese 1 point 2 days ago

How is that different from resigning?

The player can still draw by refusing to self check, right?

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Player2 7 points 2 days ago

If you refuse to make a move, you resign, you lose.

If you are unable to make a move, it's a stalemate, you do not lose.

It just gives you an extra chance to avoid a total loss by having your opponent make a mistake.

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nocturne 11 points 2 days ago

Had the game not announced this, I wouldn't have known.

Sounds like maybe you need to practice more.

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7uWqKj 7 points 2 days ago

Why, besides supporting your inability to properly apply the rules of chess?

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Onomatopoeia -1 points 2 days ago

I mean I absolutely suck at chess (lack of working memory), and it's clear to me that you are correct.

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A_A 3 points 2 days ago

You and your friends can set any rules for any games you play, as long as you agree to the rules together. Sometimes it's fun to try and change the rules.

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nocturne 1 point 2 days ago path: 0 26265481 26266009, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
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