Three things a critique taught me about one photo of the Corpach wreck

2 days ago by simonmakin_artluni to c/photography

Took this at the old fishing boat wreck at Corpach, near Fort William, crouched low by the bow. I liked it at the time but it never quite worked, and it took a critique to show me why.

  1. I exposed for the sky and lost the boat. The shadow side of the hull is just a dark shape. The fix is simple: meter (or tap to expose) on the hull, not the sky, and accept a slightly brighter sky. Then zoom right in and check you can see the wood grain.
  2. The horizon runs downhill to the right. Not by much, but enough that your eye slides out of the frame. Grid on, or rotate in the edit and crop the corners off.
  3. The foreground pebbles are a bit soft. They take up the bottom third, so they carry a lot of the texture. Focusing about a third of the way up from the bottom would have helped.

The one thing it said I got right was the low angle: "The low, close viewpoint makes the hull feel tall and imposing, which suits the subject well." So I'll take that.

Disclosure: the critique came from Artluni, a tool I built for exactly this kind of feedback, with each note pinned to the part of the photo it means. If anyone wants to try it there's a no-signup preview on the homepage and 3 free critiques with no card: https://artluni.com/?code=FOUNDING50&ref=lemmy-photography . If you end up liking it, FOUNDING50 gives half price for your first 6 months, then normal price, cancel any time. Happy to hear what you'd have done differently with this one, too.

the_abecedarian 12 points 2 days ago

i want to know what humans think of my photos, not a machine's presentation of words resembling a plausible critique

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TribblesBestFriend 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah. Nah. I don’t care about an AI that calls what a statistical median should be. This is a great picture

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drkt 5 points 21 hours ago

This is literally an AI promo post; why are you not downvoting it?

Did they finally figure out how to sneak ads past you?

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Fives 3 points 2 days ago

Not mad at this photo at all. You could convert it to B&W and make it even more dramatic.

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simonmakin_artluni 1 point a day ago

Thanks! I hadn't tried a B&W version, that's a good shout. The sky would probably carry it more.

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dual_sport_dork 2 points 21 hours ago

I'm getting reports on this one complaining about the advertising and also the AI aspect of this. On the advertising thing, I really don't think I'm one to talk. Folks, what is our consensus here?

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Zoot 2 points 16 hours ago

Their username advertises the AI as well. Feels like that's the entire point

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Cherry 1 point 15 hours ago

Yeh not a fan feels like an ad. If it slides there will likely be more.

Was the disclosure there when the post went up? i saw the post yesterday and didn't notice it like that, i noted a mention that an AI review occurred, but that was it.

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Redfox8 1 point 2 days ago

I personally quite like the wonky horizon. Normally it'd jar badly to me, but it strangely works from an abstract point of view, countering the tilt of the boat.

I get there could be an improvement to the exposure, buy it's not really that bad. I think it looks worse with the use of a wide angle lens resulting in an imbalance between light & dark elements. Re-composing will help as much as anything.

Talking of the wide angle lens - I'm not that keen on it to fit more into the picture unless it is used to really accentuate something, but then it becomes more graphic design than art-photography for me, if you see what I mean!

In your image it results in the pebbles & sky dominating too much in an unbalanced manner, I think because you can see how they're stretched. This is probably why your software thinks it's too softly focussed in the foreground. The landscape behind also starts to get lost as it thins out with wider angles so the foreground interest needs to take over.

I agree, the low p-o-v is great, just move in a tad to accentuate the way the subject looms over the viewer. Also make the chain more prominent to lead the eye +and yes, lose the people and board on the ground). This should also solve much of the negatives in one action! Try some views a tad to one side or the other & see how that plays out too (assuming you go back!)

Overall, a nice shot despite some critisisms :)

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simonmakin_artluni 1 point a day ago

Really useful, thanks. Fair point on the wide angle, I think that's what's pushing the light and dark out of balance. I'll have another go at the composition.

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Redfox8 1 point 16 hours ago

Hope it helps. I'd be interested to see the outcome.

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skeezix 1 point 2 days ago

Additionally there are composure issues

This particular photo would be improved much by cropping in closer to the subject.

Backing off from a subject to include foreground and sky only works well when the foreground and sky are both interesting and complement the subject.

In your photo, the foreground pebbly beach adds nothing; it just isnt interesting. The same applies to the sky. The white board laying on the beach distracts the viewer. As do the two chumps standing next to the boat, and the leaning crane on the left. The only interesting thing in this photo is the subject itself, which is composed to only occupy about 10% of the image. The vast majority of pixels in the photo are disposable.

That’s why this photo didn’t deliver the punch you might have thought it would: the photo’s technical flaws are not the problem. It’s the composition.

This is a good lesson in composure: the composition of a photo must never take precedence over the subject matter. You can’t “improve” a photo simply by widening the shot and putting the camera close to the ground. The subject matter at hand has to be accept and be evocative with that composition (as in the example I linked to above). This subject matter isn’t.

For this image on the day it was taken, a tighter crop and slight repositioning would make the boat more intriguing, spending a higher percentage of photo pixels on interesting subject . As in this photo. You can see here the sky and beach aren’t really that interesting, so the photographer did not compose them as first class citizens.

Taken on a different day with a different sky and different beach/water conditions, this composition might have worked slightly better. But probably not better enough.

Additionally,

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simonmakin_artluni 1 point a day ago

Agreed, I think I backed off too far. A tighter crop on the boat is next on my list to try. Cheers for the example.

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