‘Affront to Democracy’: Trump's National Guard Troops Seen in Front of Ballot Box in DC

a day ago by CubitOom to c/politics

"Armed troops do not belong near ballot boxes," the head of the District of Columbia ACLU told Common Dreams.
Z745812939054 45 points a day ago

did he not get the memo that we're a fascist state now? written laws are meaningless when no one enforces them, so "the law" becomes whatever tf dear leader wants it to be.

see: 1984

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Zephorah 43 points a day ago

It’s not right but I’m not afraid of national guard standing in front of a ballot box.

ICE? They’re unhinged with no accountability, seeming eager to murder the American people for little to no provocation.

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wheezy 28 points a day ago

I have a feeling the first part of this comment is going to age poorly

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Zephorah 44 points a day ago

They’re trained. And they probably don’t want to be there.

ICE is untrained and very eager.

Given a choice, which would you prefer?

But yes, shit can always go sideways with this admin. They give zero fucks for We The People.

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Malica 2 points 18 hours ago

I'd avoid both but if I had to choose, I'd choose the ones that swore an oath to the constitution. Expecting people to honor their oath is a losing bet though, especially American soldiers, given the training they go through that systemically destroys their ability to critically think.

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CH3DD4R_G0BL1N 1 point 6 hours ago

They’re trained. And they probably don’t want to be there.

I like your optimism and wish I could share it, but that is very unit and personnel dependent and on a large gradient of quality.

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kandykarter 16 points a day ago

You should read about Kent State.

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ChunkMcHorkle 0 points 13 hours ago

Kent State took place at a peaceful protest, a rally protesting the expansion of the Vietnam war.

A ballot box is not a group of people falsely deemed to be a terrorist threat. It's just a box. And no order to shoot would be followed by any real Guardsman.

Sounds like you just want people to be afraid to vote, and this event is pure theater conducted by this administration to try to achieve just that. Trump wants people to be too afraid to vote. Stop helping Trump.

No one I know is buying that shit, and no NG I personally know (I've been friends with many and kept up with a few) would do more than just stand there. National Guard is not ICE.

Stop making like a NG shooting at a fifty-six year old protest at the height of the Vietnam War, and a group of peaceful NGs standing at a ballot box, are the same thing or even similar. They are not.

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Doomsider 2 points 19 hours ago

Excuse me? You can't even legally wear cammo in other countries because of its intimidating nature. Glad to hear your not afraid of the oppression, I guess.

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vorpuni 3 points 15 hours ago

Made me look it up. What the fuck. I guess it's good to know in case you travel with surplus to wear outdoors.

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Molvorin 29 points 21 hours ago

We are just following orders 🤷‍♂️

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Radical_Socialist_t00t 4 points 19 hours ago

Thats the same excuse ww2 German soldiers used, "I know its wrong to boil jew children and make soap out of them but o' well, orders are orders haha lolkbye" or "well it's just my job, I'm not really complicit, right?"

🙄 Pathetic

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Molvorin 13 points 18 hours ago

Yeah. That was the intended reference but didn't think it needed further explanation

But basically the joined result of the trials was that orders can't justify crime but in some cases make the punishment milder

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moakley 9 points 18 hours ago

I think most people know "just following orders" refers to Nazis. It's a meme in the oldest sense: a shared cultural memory. It's literally referred to as "the Nuremberg defense".

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Asafum 22 points a day ago

Step into booth, check first box for Democrat

National Guard: (shifts gun in his hands) hmmm... No. Try again.

Check box for independent candidate

National Guard: (inspecting gun) closer... Try again

Checks box for Republican.

National Guard: You're a true Patriot!™©® Thanks for taking the time to vote!

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AA5B 9 points 18 hours ago

Yeah I can see that but realistically the goal is more likely to terrorize brown skinned people from voting.

Thats even their excuse, that they’re preventing undocumented immigrants from voting. Too bad that’s almost non-existent plus you can’t tell by the color of peoples skin

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Emtity_13 3 points 11 hours ago

Yes you can, if brown/minority then they obviously llegal

Tap for spoiler

/sarcasm off ya could not tell

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Fishnoodle 22 points a day ago

The first few hundred national guardsmen that storm the Whitehouse and TCB will be American legends, and will probably never have to lift a finger for the rest of their lives

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Zahille7 8 points a day ago

...if they survive, but yes.

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wheezy 6 points 15 hours ago

Things that will never happen, for 200, Alex.

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Drusas 19 points 14 hours ago

Anyone encountering this when they go to vote should call 911 to report voter intimidation.

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ChunkMcHorkle 10 points 12 hours ago

Exactly. It's not just illegal in federal law, but also codified in state laws. Armed law enforcement is absolutely verboten within a certain radius of voting sites. Several states have already announced plans about countering the voter interference they fully expect to have to deal with.

Anyone concerned should also look up their local laws to be sure. Here's another article with straightforward information about what the real situation is on the ground in general for those interested. From that article:

If a voter sees armed officials at a polling place, they should alert the election officials at the polling place right away. Election officials have specific procedures to follow to report the situation and have it appropriately handled in an efficient manner.

This robber administration is desperate. The orange chancre doesn't want to go to prison. But most of us don't have to wait for Election Day and we can vote by mail, absentee ballot, ballot drop-off box, and early voting right now.

He's trying to make people scared to vote with this kind of theater, but there's no reason to be. We just have to be wise, educated, and willing to look out for each other.

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anon_8675309 15 points 18 hours ago

I’d be like, “thank you for your service in making sure my vote for kicking the shit out of the republicans is safe.”

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CubitOom 17 points 18 hours ago

I'd be more like: "I'd like to say fuck you fascist for violating your oath and committing the crime of voter intimidation."

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JustPlainDave 5 points 12 hours ago

More like "Oath didn't mean anything, eh Corporal?

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Pratai 14 points 18 hours ago

We al knew this was going to happen.

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bunnybunny 7 points 21 hours ago

Land of the poor land of the pussies

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GreyEyedGhost 11 points 21 hours ago

Land of the indentured would be more fitting for a play on the original.

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thoughtfuldragon 2 points 20 hours ago

Also the scheme is land of the x and the home of the y.

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starik 1 point 19 hours ago

It feels like it’s going to rain like dogs and cats later.

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Lucidlethargy 2 points 19 hours ago

Now this... This is accurate.

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Lucidlethargy 1 point 19 hours ago

No bigger pussy than the one calling other people names from the safety of their home.

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moldy_rice 6 points a day ago

Please arrest them.

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RaoulDuke25 5 points 18 hours ago

Everyone should vote first then laugh at the fascist military losers.

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