Citroen revives the 2CV for an electric age
4 days ago by schizoidman to c/electricvehicles
Hope that price tag sticks and is more than a marketing price for a hypothetical base model lacking things like a radio, without having to also order something like the "advanced comfort package" for an additional 5000€, or something like that.
An original 1948 base model at launch was about 9,000 in 2026 money. Considering how bare bones the original is compared to modern minimum requirements, I'd say 15K is pretty good!
I'll believe it when I see it.
It needs to be light, cheap, fun, and not packed with features that no one needs
Exactly!
it's so nice going over bumps with it though
Just like the original.
I like it! Design has gotten really homogeneous and I'm enjoying that we're starting to see some things shaking things up a little
I do think them cropping the top of the headlights feels a tad out of place though- the overall shape is too cutesy to me for the way it makes the "face" of the car look to me. But probably they were aiming to temper the cutesy styling so its not overwhelming to folks that doesnt click with
Yeah but 2EV would be ridiculous to say out loud in France, just like the Toyota MR2 is called MR here because otherwise it would be pronounced "eh merde" (oh shit)
Ah that explains why I have been hearing the screams of Clarkson, May and Hammond in the wind.
Citroen already make a quadricycle called the Ami which is, on my opinion, an absolute slam dunk: cute, absolutely bare bones, super easy to maintain, shockingly practical for it's size and so much fun to drive. If this is built the same way but sold as an actual car rather than a quad it'll be amazing. Fingers crossed.
The Ami, for reference:
Following Renault in reviving classic designs. I dig this trend
Nice to see them finally have to compete and make what most people actually want, affordable options.
Pull it back and watch it go vroooooooom
I want it.
The original one is peak-ugly. Anything you do to it is an improvement.
Looking at the recent car designs that generally would fit well onto the streets of Cardassia Prime, the 2CV is peak elegant beauty...
Fugly!
Well that interior for certain won't survive contact with reality. Those seats have zero head and neck support. Won't pass minimum safety features list. Those seats are way too low back and no head restraint/support. Plus even if it was legal, 0 stars from Euro-NCAP, when they rear end that car in crash test and the test dummy neck snaps back.
I just find it personally highly irritating designers make concepts, that has no basis on reality. Why bother putting in the seat belts, but not the head supports. Since concept car needs no seat belts either. Specially 3 point ones. Like did the designer just like what a 3 point belt line hanging down the B pillar looks like?
So they signal "we know safety is a thing, that exists and must be a concern", but then half ass it.
In practical, overly fancy, with way too much design flair than general public will tolerate I can get. Those are matters of taste mostly. Showing artistic license and maybe looking at feed back of... hey maybe one of our crazy concepts is so popular we make it to production.
But "not at all workable in the first place in reality" is another thing. It tells public nothing of the future and nor is it a good design study, since everyone knows "this whole interior is a whole redo, since it's center pieces, the seats people sit in are just a full no-go".
Those front headlights are a "well thats concept cars being concept cars, those get simplified. It would be way too much engineering and production cost to make those work. One could, but they won't".
That interior is "this is not even a concept of a passenger vehicle, since those seats can not carry road traffic passengers in". It is a vaguely passenger vehicle shaped nostalgic kinetic sculpture.
Oh and all this specially since, I would like to see what their actual take is on how to make a modern working front passenger bench seat. How they marry the old 2CV bench with modern safety design requirements. Atleast on concept. At this stage it doesn't need to be mechanically engineered to actually pass whiplash track without snapping in half. However I would like to see a concept of a design how to make it work on ergonomic and base interior volume packaging level.
I can see your point. I do prefer concepts closer to reality as well. I will refrain from judging though until I see how much of the design was retained (or could be retained) while of course complying with all safety regulations. A design is still much about marketing, it often just gets serious with the prototype. I'd also prefer it another way.
That said, the Renault Twingo did keep its funky headlights, although with a bit more financial headroom at 20k EUR instead of 15k.
I don't see any interior shots in that article?
Edit: do you just mean the exterior view looking through the car?
Hm, I think you're mixing two cars up. Citroen first tested the hydropneumatic suspension on the Traction Avant in the 50s and it entered production with the DS soon after. The DS was fairly successful thanks to the excellent ride quality. The 2CV was arguably even more successful, but because it was basic, reliable and cheap. These cars were essentially polar opposites and the success of the 2CV and later budget models allowed them to experiment with their cutting-edge executive cars (that they lost a lot of money on in many cases).
I like the idea but why do they have to make these cars look so weird all the time, instead of literally just the same?
It is kinda matte, lower details, no ornaments etc.
Also with the bumper, window frames, lights and rims it looks like a damn toy. Ugly af
IMO, it looks like a cheap toy version of the real 2CV ... and probably costs 5x as much, even after adjusting for inflation.
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Let's hope they remember (other than their colleagues at VW) that a major core premise of the classic cars they are now trying to revive, was not only their distinct design, but also their affordability...
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