Loneliness drives biggest quality-of-life drop for young Australians

a day ago by supersquirrel to c/australianpolitics

While older adults often get the most attention for being isolated, young people are losing more of their quality of life—such as feeling healthy, happy and able to enjoy daily activities—because they feel lonely.

"Loneliness is often seen as an issue affecting older people, but we found its association with poorer health-related quality of life was greatest among young adults ages 15–24," Rizal said.

"Loneliness is subjective and reflects how satisfied we feel with our social relationships, whereas social isolation is about objectively having fewer relationships and less frequent social contact.

"You can be surrounded by people and still feel deeply lonely, just as someone with relatively few social connections may not necessarily feel lonely.

Wait this means it was definitely a good idea to ban youth from social media right? This will make them feel less isolated from the communities they are stuck growing up in right? Right?.......

....or maybe doing that was obviously attempted mass manslaughter from the beginning and people should be held accountable for that?

Lets not be extremist and emotional about this though, we will have plenty of time to do with those emotions later when we are yet again trapped in a social environment we have to entirely mask in!

Semi_Hemi_Demigod 10 points a day ago

If there were more places you could exist without money or suspicion it would definitely help.

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supersquirrel 4 points a day ago

I would be an entirely different human if I had regular access to that now or growing up, but one of the things nobody talks about with fascism is how there is no liminal space physically or mentally in a way that you can't describe until you remember what it was like before it became so overbearing. It isn't just the lack of anywhere to hide, it is about the lack of anywhere.

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Eyekaytee 3 points a day ago

“ …or maybe doing that was obviously attempted mass manslaughter from the beginning and people should be held accountable for that?”

what???

fuck facebook, instagram, twitter and tiktok

if you think you need them you have an addiction and a dependency and need to seek help

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minty 2 points a day ago

The manslaughter bit is hyperbolic i agree, but if your disabled or just lonely/isolated THEYRE great. Like possibly life saving great. Ive WAS going to meet up with some peeps on reddit, which WAS going to be nice lmao.

But thats if the social media is used productively of course (and i would not include twitter and tiktok at all being positive in that social sense). I certaintly have not used it much that way and was addicted, and fucked me up a bit.

Another thing that comes to mind, is my gens reliance on things discord too much, may be a bit self perpuating (as in you could have made an irl group instead and advertised). But at the same time people can get a lot out of it if they no body

Not really addressing your point at all im just rambling lol

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supersquirrel 3 points a day ago

Oh yeah, I am deeply hopeful about the potential of social media but I hate discord with a passion that could fuel me to roll boulders up hills for eternity, that place is a buzzsaw for digital communities, it has destroyed so much vibrance on the open web it hurts even thinking about it.

Discord also shapes conversations heavy handedly in a way that I honestly find disturbing especially because everything about it is so opaque and subject to frequently being changed on a whim.

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minty 3 points a day ago

Honestly yeah fair. I myself would DEFINITELY prefer if something decentralised like matrix took over.

Also now im imaginng you over taking sisyphus and completing the task set for him just from your pure rage lmao

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supersquirrel 2 points a day ago

I would do it gladly, like I would literally do a livestream of myself repeatedly pushing an annoying boulder up a hill slowly and laboriously and when I finally get to the top turn to the camera, flick it off (that part is meant for discord) and then roll the boulder down the hill over and over again if it raised enough money to destroy discord, that is how pure my feelings are.

note I am not very strong either so this wouldn't be physically impressive.

I don't have experience with telegram or whatsapp groups but it isn't like they are eating the open web in that different of a way...so discord isn't entirely unique in inspiring me.

edit2 Also reddit now has basically become as bad as discord, so I am throwing that in the furnace too of course

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budget_biochemist 2 points 21 hours ago

if your disabled or just lonely/isolated THEYRE great. Like possibly life saving great

I'm disabled and rarely go out on my own. Social connection via online resources (including chat with people I know IRL, co-op gaming, and forums just like this) is invaluable.

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supersquirrel 1 point a day ago

I did not say corporate for-profit social media run by rightwing billionaires.

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Tollana1234567 2 points 21 hours ago

isnt this practically everywhere, if you arnt RICH.

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arbilp3 1 point 19 hours ago

Perhaps we could take some action here to counter loneliness. Just wondering. Any suggestions? Or totally impossible?

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hanrahan 1 point a day ago

Wait this means it was definitely a good idea to ban youth from social media right

yes, just like it is with smoking, gambling, alcohol (I'd argue religion as well) and on and on.

the main problem with social isolation is cars. Need one to do any fucking thing in cities and sonlittke infrastructure fir alternates and then kids hanging around together is seen as bad, so they have "move on" laws. A good start would be a goal of removing 80% of cars from cities and ban dropping kids if at school in a car

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supersquirrel 1 point a day ago

Yeah I agree I grew up on the side of basically a highway, guess how much I loved that.

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eestileib -2 points 20 hours ago

I don't know how to help men whose entire personality is being angry and contemptuous to make friends. That's on them.

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supersquirrel 1 point 20 hours ago

Not disagreeing with that!

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