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3 years ago by SeaStar to c/memes

starrox 38 points 3 years ago

They took my RiF. The CEO seems like an absolute bastard. It got more and more toxic over the years. I can take some abuse but this was a bit too much. If it continues to be popular I'll use it for information gathering just like always, but they wont get any content, interaction or ad revenue from me.

This blackout thing, while surely sending a message, will be pointless in the end imo. The bosses have decided how they want to proceed and that's that.

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lowleveldata 21 points 3 years ago

It ain't pointless. The message is what get me here at lemmy.

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starrox 14 points 3 years ago

Yeah. I meant pointless in the sense of "we as the reddit community want to change the companies business strategy shortly before an IPO".

You being brought here (same as me) through the backlash-posts is great. But unless certain highly frequented subs go dark PERMANENTLY I dont see much that could sway the reddit leadership towards a more community friendly approach.

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lps 13 points 3 years ago

@starrox
The point to be taken here is that you can NEVER trust for profit companies because its just a matter of time before they turn evil...and during that time, you've wasted years of effort. Time to build something new!
@lowleveldata

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TWeaK 9 points 3 years ago

The CEO is an absolute bastard. He's twisted the words of his "friend" Aaron Swartz, the real founder of the site, and bastardised his creation while trashing his legacy.

The blackout isn't pointless, it's just not yet enough. Reddit needs to die, and the blackout is a step towards that. It started as a way to try and get admin to change, and in that respect it has and will fail, but it is the first step to reddit going the way of digg.

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vox 33 points 3 years ago

a lot of subreddits promised that they won't come back unless reddit removes the api restrictions

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doka 13 points 3 years ago

The admins will probably reopen it manually

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leggettc18 13 points 3 years ago

And if they do the mods still won’t come back and those subs will devolve into a cesspit for the worst kinds of people on the internet.

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Landrin201 1 point 3 years ago

Maybe, but that will galvanize the members of those community even more.

Either way, be prepared for lots of new Lemmites (like me!)

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Josh7 30 points 3 years ago

Maybe not, look at lemmy activity numbers. Those people all won't forget.

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FoxBJK 19 points 3 years ago

It’s the 1% who create all the content that matter on any website, and those are the redditors using 3rd party apps.

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goat 5 points 3 years ago

All a matter of posting more varied content

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Kerrangutan 29 points 3 years ago

I've just finished deleting the past 9+ years comment and post history on my account, I'm just waiting until I have copied some of my saved stuff elsewhere then I'm deleting my account. Fuck Reddit and the cesspit it has become.

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Ultra980 28 points 3 years ago

Better than every user from Reddit coming to Lemmy, for a few reasons:

servers would crash
the reddit "hivemind" would move to Lemmy
the shitty jokes would continue here
just check r/redditmoment, do you want that to become c/lemmymoment?
right now the community here is big enough that there are enough posts to keep us entertained, but small enough to get to interact multiple times with the same people and not get drowned in a sea of posts/comments
the Lemmy community rn is also formed of at least mildly tech-savvy people (that could figure out the whole instances thing), that isn't the case for Reddit

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42triangles 31 points 3 years ago

I don't really agree on the whole tbh. Specifically, the one thing that's still keeping my Reddit account alive is that there's a bunch of communities that don't exist on any other platform because they'd need enough of a "critical mass" of users for it to make sense; and they're too niche otherwise.
A huge influx of users certainly comes with.... Challenges, I do not deny that. But I'd also love to not have to use Reddit anymore solely because of its active user count. And new Lemmy users are unlikely to come from Twitter or something; as it's a different kind of format.

Also, I think the sentiment of "the Lemmy community rn is also formed of at least mildly tech-savvy people [...]" is kind of exclusionary for no real reason, I don't think you have to be tech-savvy to have a good perspective on things, make a good joke or all in all be a positive person to interact with.

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nodiet 8 points 3 years ago

I Wholeheartedly agree. Especially on the exclusion of non-techies. Kinda worried Lemmy will become a techie circlejerk with that mentality.

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dingus 14 points 3 years ago

the shitty jokes would continue here

You're posting in a meme community lol. Are memes not shitty jokes?

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Ultra980 10 points 3 years ago

No. Shitty jokes like "I also choose this guy's dead wife"

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apprehensively_human 18 points 3 years ago

Yeah, instead we'll form our own terrible inside jokes

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isVeryLoud 3 points 3 years ago

Lemmy moment

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Ultra980 3 points 3 years ago

better than "inheriting" the years of terrible jokes that already are on reddit

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NekoRogue 8 points 3 years ago

And the puns. My god the puns.

I just wanted more info about what's going on in a video, and now I have to wade through hundreds of low effort puns. And most of them the exact same dumb joke repeated over and over.

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isVeryLoud 2 points 3 years ago

What about that time Reddit got the wrong guy and they killed themselves over it?

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Flukemaster 9 points 3 years ago

I've been around long enough now to know that that sort of thing is unavoidable long term (and with popularity). The good thing about Lemmy is it's pretty low-friction to set up a new community on a different instance if need be.

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Senseibull 5 points 3 years ago

The best of subreddit, where it was just a quote from a random Redditor, really annoyed me due to it’s uselessness

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PeefJerky 25 points 3 years ago

Louis Rossmann really made some great points that a 2 day blackout doesn’t mean anything in his recent video. People need to understand that it won’t hurt Reddit at all of subreddits just start functioning normally after 2 days.

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mcc 3 points 3 years ago

Well... a bunch of them are shutting down indefinitely. Plus who's gonna be happy modding for reddit after they see how spez respond to everyone's concerns?

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PeefJerky 1 point 3 years ago

Lmao responded? More like just ignored thousands of questions and copy pasted some answers.

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Silviecat44 1 point 3 years ago

And edited comments that trashed him

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CaptainBasculin 21 points 3 years ago

Boost app stops working -> I delete Boost and never use Reddit again.

It's simple

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Ghost_Seeker69 9 points 3 years ago

I'm still waiting for an announcement from the dev of Infinity. But things don't look any better. The only one I feel bad about is them. Spez can eat shit while watching his platform meet the same fate as Digg.

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vox 6 points 3 years ago

infinity is the free and open source one, right?
basically there's zero chance that they'll be able to afford any commercial-grade , let alone reddit api pricing.
there's absolutely no hope.

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Babalugats 19 points 3 years ago

I think many will forget. Meanwhile the rest of us that continue to use Lemmy, can hopefully mirror a load of the more popular communities, even if they have a very low numbers of moderators. That way, if there ever is another protest, many will be able to blend into their favourite communities without missing a beat. May even stay here. I think if the communities exist, even if it's just the basics, more users will come and stay.

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Seven 19 points 3 years ago

My whole Reddit experience was Apollo, even on desktop after the release for M1 Macs.

So they’re not killing just an app to connect with Reddit, they’re killing the Reddit experience (at least for me).

I’ve stopped using Reddit web years ago, I installed the official Reddit app last month and uninstalled it after 5 minutes because it felt like a piece of shit.

I will stick with lemmy and even think about starting to create content.

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SolNine 18 points 3 years ago

I won't... I primarily use Reddit through SyncPro, I won't be downloading the Reddit app as it's a steaming pile of garbage. My Reddit use has already dropped by 90%, as I do sometimes use it from my PC.

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velourium_camper 18 points 3 years ago

As an Apollo user I can at least say I won’t forget

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Silviecat44 2 points 3 years ago

Neither

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TWeaK 17 points 3 years ago

They've just today killed old reddit for users not logged in, now you get a "you broke reddit screen". It still works if you're logged in, but the days are counting down.

I'm just waiting for the day they take over the subs that have closed down, reopening them as part of the powermod's "projects". That should be a real show. /popcorn

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Brunbrun6766 8 points 3 years ago

Spez that fucking rat JUST said 2 days ago "old reddit is going no where". Lying by omission, especially when he had to have known this would be implemented days after his comment

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Cromutorium 5 points 3 years ago

Old.reddit still seems to be working for me. Maybe they're A/B testing by IP now?

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penguin_ex_machina 3 points 3 years ago

It's working fine for me, too. I'm spending the next week or so pulling my saved content but even if old Reddit stays I don't think I can anymore.

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sorrowstouch 17 points 3 years ago

I agree, the majority will go back to Reddit but maybe that's a good thing, hopefully all the good people stay here and it doesn't become as toxic as reddit

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hydra 16 points 3 years ago

at least it gave Lemmy the kick it needed, and the quantity and quality of posts will simply never be the same. Also Reddit, FUCK YOUR REDESIGN AND FUCK YOUR APP. Javascript bloat that doesn't respect you.

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notExactlyI20 15 points 3 years ago

No

Laughs in Power Delete Suit

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TWeaK 4 points 3 years ago

Power Delete Suite is still limited by reddit. I ran it and it got a lot of stuff, however I was still finding comments older than a few months with 50 or less karma that it missed.

The issue isn't with PDS, though, it's with how many comments reddit will show you. When I go into my profile there are no comments, however there are still some out there.

I'm wondering if anyone has made a script that will edit + delete comments based on the csv files from a GDPR request? That actually gives a comprehensive list of comments (with links) with which to work from, better than the user account page.

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Grassgrowz 2 points 3 years ago

I personally used Redact, and deleted all comments from my last two reddit accounts. 2500+ comments gone! felt a little sad, but had to be done. I never want to support those ppl ever again

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illumrial 15 points 3 years ago

I won't forget. It's good to be somewhere new. Perhaps the fediverse is more resistant to profit-driven enshitification

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hydra 6 points 3 years ago

It is much more resistant to enshittification, if an instance is showing signs of corporate takeover we can just jump ship and be suspicious of any corporation backed instances in the first place.

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CookieJarObserver 14 points 3 years ago

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Silviecat44 1 point 3 years ago

The Rexit begins!

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defiant 14 points 3 years ago

A temporary blackout isn’t enough. We need indefinite blackouts in all participating subs. Hopefully we’ll see a mass exodus if that happens.

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Ultra980 5 points 3 years ago

A mass exodus won't be so good for Lemmy

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FloorBitten 14 points 3 years ago

I won't use Reddit until they enable third-party apps again.

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gregicInfluence 7 points 3 years ago

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DarthRedLeader 3 points 3 years ago

I'm curious, because we all have our own reasons, is it just about third-party apps ? about the broader direction Reddit has been headed in over the last several years

What if they do reduce their pricing structure so that third-party apps can more reasonably afford it in the short term? What makes you think they have your (being a broad term for the Reddit Community as a whole) interests in mind as they continue to grow and change the platform?

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Licensed_to_ill 2 points 3 years ago

Any users that have used reddit before there even was an official app are going to bail because we're used to our 3rd party app. We like our 3rd party apps. But I think it started going downhill since the hellen pao controversy or whatever that bitches name was. It's been one thing after another with Reddit leadership making bad decisions.

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xangria 0 points 3 years ago

Valid point. I think existing on the third party app helps avoid a lot of that. I go to specific communities and don't see the broader effects. It isn't until I'm in a browser with the new design that I really see just how far it's gone downhill.

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DarthRedLeader 1 point 3 years ago

Fair enough. Despite the virtuosity of those who want to quit Reddit on principle (like myself), it can be easy to forget that Reddit is home to smaller, more niche communities that won't be able to foster the same kind of engagement for a long time to come anywhere else. I think a lot of us will end up going back after the blackout in one way or another until alternatives are able to come into their own. At the very least, I know I will continue to drive traffic as I search for technical problems or recommendations on Reddit, like I do today, even if I no longer continue to mindlessly scroll like I did before.

Thanks for the insight and for taking my comment as it was meant, a simple question for deeper understanding. I feel like a typical Reddit response would have been to be very defensive.

(And sorry for the typos, I should have read closer when I was still waking up this morning).

EDIT: lol, just realized you weren't the person I originally replied to. Lemmy's been hard to navigate with the slowness today, but my comment still stands.

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Licensed_to_ill 2 points 3 years ago

Same. I still might but not on the daily. I'm not using their shitty app.

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tox_solid 13 points 3 years ago

I suspect many of us are here to stay. I for one burned the bridge behind me when I left. I serve a new master now. Long live the Fediverse.

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uglytruck 4 points 3 years ago

Kinda like Cortez burning his ships... Motivation

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kozel 3 points 3 years ago

Are there any more links between Cortez and Fëanor?

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Lemmington 13 points 3 years ago

I'm not going back, I only used Reddit because it is what I was used to. I've given Lemmy a real chance and greatly prefer it now.

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DeriHunter 1 point 3 years ago

I would honestly want to know what made you prefer it, it's my first day and most communities are dead or doesn't have a lot of content and even when browsing all, theres nothing interesting.

I know it can take a lot of time, but still I'm not sold, would be glad to hear what you saw

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Lemmington 2 points 3 years ago

It isn't so much what I've seen in terms of content, it isn't a doomscrolling replacement yet. I mean that almost every comment I've put on here I have received a civilized reply, on Reddit I felt more likely to be mass-downvoted or trolled for commenting.

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treagod 12 points 3 years ago

I think it will be quite different afterwards, especially for those subs that permanently go black. If Lemmy can provide a alternative community for those subs and enough content is provided the people might stay there

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isVeryLoud 3 points 3 years ago

Don't forget to advertise Lemmy to these sub owners so they can consider moving. Explain to them what it is and how it's different from Reddit.

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toadmode 11 points 3 years ago

the blackout is like if a union went on strike but agreed to come back to work in two days regardless of whether any of their demands were met. it's hard to see this affecting reddit at all tbh

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starship_lizard 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah, major miscommunication to say that it was lasting 48 hours. I will say it's kinda weird that was the initial plan for the blackout instead of just indefinitely. Some subreddits were going dark until the demands were met, but it confused a lot of people.

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juxtanother 3 points 3 years ago

Lots of strikes work like that, do you think there won't be further action once Reddit fails to make changes.

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BodaciosBlonde 10 points 3 years ago

The ads, they are like an infestation for the soul. They'll keep much of reddit like a crab on finger

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croobat 9 points 3 years ago

Fuck Reddit, all my homies lemmy.

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doofer_name 9 points 3 years ago

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Arcaneslime 8 points 3 years ago

Well they can have fun, but no FOSS apps means no me, so I won't. Long live infinity.

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original_reader 7 points 3 years ago

I may not be a major player, but if this network continues to grow, I would love to be a part of it from the "of sorts" beginning.

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CanadaPlus 7 points 3 years ago

If Reddit backs off, most of them, although a seed of an idea will be planted. Otherwise there will be a lot of people who hate the official site and app who will be looking for a new home.

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Peter_Arbeitslos 7 points 3 years ago

Forget what?

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liontigerwings 6 points 3 years ago

This might be true if they didn't kill the main way I interact with the app. It'll be a constant reminder everytime I try to use reddit.

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catshit_dogfart 6 points 3 years ago

Well not after Sync goes down.

I'm not using their shitty official app. I've tried it before and it honestly makes me question how reddit is even popular when so many users are accessing it through that mess. Like, this is the only experience for many, and it's pretty rough.

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confetti_8tVST5 5 points 3 years ago

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kupimukki 5 points 3 years ago

I was a Relay user but I'm pretty damn easy to please tech wise so if the 3rd party app shutdown existed in a vaccuum I'd probably be fine with the allegedly shitty official app. What I can't condone is the moneygrabbing and end-user belittling behavior of the reddit execs so I am not going back. If lemmy doesn't pan out then I'll re-learn bookreading and be better for it.

Guess what: Reddit needs its users a lot more than users need Reddit.

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boborygmy 4 points 3 years ago

I'm going to do the most productive thing I can think of in this situation: cancel my reddit gold subscription, delete ALL my content, and close my account.

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andMoonsValue 4 points 3 years ago

In my short few hours of using Lemmy it's really grown on me. Feels much more like being a part of something and it's refreshing.

Also Rexxit ☠️

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autonomous 2 points 3 years ago

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Malintent 2 points 3 years ago

I'm done, I primarily use reddit on mobile - you take RiF from me, I'm gone.

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c0mbatbag3l 2 points 3 years ago

Already done, deleted it just a bit ago.

It was the only mobile app worth using.

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shiham 1 point 3 years ago

I feel all that is about to change

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfZKkUg8jgM

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