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felykiosa 36 points 3 years ago

Yay to be out of stock in approximately a minute ʘ‿ʘ

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thepianistfroggollum 7 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it's impossible to get a pi4 now for msrp. Maybe they should work out their production issues before launching a new device.

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Ghostalmedia 4 points 3 years ago

Kind of frustrating that little boards are still hard to get.

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Eldritch 2 points 3 years ago

To be frank at this point. The Raspberry Pi Foundation has a well-established brand name and decent communities Etc. But that doesn't make up for a lot of the faults. The closed video system with binary blogs and unavailable specifications or availability of copper open source drivers. Leading to wildly different performance from distribution to distribution simply based on who managed to a corporate they proprietary drivers into their distribution. And now the open flirtation with major commercial players as embedded compute units. Making them largely unavailable to the group they were designed for.

I might still get a Raspberry Pi 5. But only the one. All previous generations I had bought two or more of them for various uses. But I was seriously looking at things like the lechee pie4 recently. I think ultimately for the future the way to go is going to be the riscv system. The ISA has been around for roughly a decade at this point though only in the last few years has actual Hardware been getting mass produced and at first it couldn't really approach even Raspberry Pi levels of performance. The ones coming out right now easily can. And it's only going to get better with the rapid adoption and development of it.

If the foundation does not focus back on the educational and obvious markets. They are going to lose it. And that may be okay for them. With their other commercial Partners they've been selling to over recent years they seem to favor them more anyways.

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Eldritch 3 points 3 years ago

Chances are pi 4 availability will be back after this. Since everyone will be wanting to buy the new one.

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thepianistfroggollum 2 points 3 years ago

By that logic the pi3 should be readily available.

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Eldritch 2 points 3 years ago

They've generally not been that scarce or unaffordable when I've seen them. But I haven't purposely gone out looking for them. Haven't really needed to look for them. I still have my original pi's 1,2,3,and 4s all in working order. But even the back in the depths of 2020-2021 and 2022 when Raspberry Pi 4's were almost impossible to come by. I would still regularly see two and three's for sale.

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BrightCandle 22 points 3 years ago

The removal of h264 isn't going to go down well for people who use them for under TV boxes. Will be better off with the Pi4 or another device.

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n2burns 4 points 3 years ago

Is software decoding not sufficient? My rPi2 could handle h264 through Kodi up to 1080p and I don't think there was hardware decoding then.

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ieightpi 4 points 3 years ago

Can you explain this a little bit? I have been looking to buy a Raspberry Pi for emulation on my TV.

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magikmw 9 points 3 years ago

Emulation is fine, h264 is often used to codec video, like movies from seven seas.

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aBundleOfFerrets 2 points 3 years ago

TL:DR it will have next to no effect on emulation

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a_fancy_kiwi 9 points 3 years ago
Pi 5 w/ 8GB - $80
Pi 5 Case - $10
Pi 5 Charger - $8*
UHS1 Micro SD - $5**

Total - $103

That’s pretty steep. I can get a Beelink with an N95, 8 GB of memory, and 256 GB of storage on Amazon, right now, for $127. Comes with intel quick sync, I can upgrade the RAM later if I want, and the SSD isn’t going to corrupt anytime I sneeze.

The Pi Pico and Pi Zero 2 W are still great but their high end Pis don’t make sense anymore. Form factor and/or that 6ish*** watt difference between the Beelink and Pi 5 have to be really important

* based off pi 4 charger
** based off Microcenter website
*** quick google search of both devices’ power consumption under load
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PeachMan 1 point 3 years ago

Then please, buy the Beelink thing so I can get a Pi 5 for projects. I already have chargers, plenty of SD cards, a 3D printer for an enclosure, and a box of 50 heat sinks of various sizes. And I'll be just fine with the base $60 model, so that's all I need to spend.

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a_fancy_kiwi 7 points 3 years ago

I’m more confused than anything.

I didn’t have a lot of money as a teenager. My family had 1 computer we all shared. I couldn’t tinker with it, what if I broke it? Cheap Pis were the gateway to my lifelong computer hobby. Because of that hobby, I was able to get a job where part of my role is full-stack web dev. I don’t know what I would be doing now if I didn’t have access to cheap Pis when I was younger.

Especially in this economy, those prices just make me sad :/

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bob_wiley 2 points 3 years ago
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PeachMan 2 points 3 years ago

Pi 4 is still for sale, and it's in stock now for a change

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topinambour_rex 8 points 3 years ago

TLDW?

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nodsocket 15 points 3 years ago
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aBundleOfFerrets 4 points 3 years ago

ribbon for pcie 2.0x1 also

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Indicah 6 points 3 years ago
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PeachMan 7 points 3 years ago

Did anybody here actually watch the video? Or did you just come to the comments to bitch?

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sebinspace 1 point 3 years ago

I agree that the price is steep but this is an odd hill to pull the vitriol out on

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donuts 6 points 3 years ago

I feel a little bit underwhelmed about Raspberry Pi 5 compared to the Orange Pi 4.

Would it have killed them to throw an nvme m.2 connector on the underside?

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Xianshi 6 points 3 years ago

Curious to see what it can emulate with the new specs. I have the steam deck now but the form factor or the pi was always nice.

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Kbobabob 20 points 3 years ago

I guess it can now emulate an audio jack.

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calavera 4 points 3 years ago

N64 finally?

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Eldritch 2 points 3 years ago

Well one of the biggest hurdles to performance on the old raspberry pies with single core performance. So due to the fact that it is a slightly newer node faster etc etc etc it should definitely be better

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grue -4 points 3 years ago

Well, it apparently can't do decent 8- and 16-bit anymore, since they're ditching the composite video jack for hooking it up to a CRT TV. Now it's only good for newer games designed for LCDs.

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llii 9 points 3 years ago

You can still solder an video out to the Rpi 5, there's just no port. So it's still possible if you really want to.

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TimeSquirrel 2 points 3 years ago

Whata wrong with running retro games on LCD? The only issue I can see is games that use a light gun.

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HarriPotero 2 points 3 years ago

You'll get at least one frame of added latency in the very best case when using original hardware on an LCD. Combine that with a TV that does its own processing and emulation and you'll have some noticeable input lag. And yes, I know most TVs have a game mode.

Interlacing when doing sprite multiplexing looks shittier on an LCD, too. Unless you do blending at the cost of an additional frame of latency.

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thepianistfroggollum 2 points 3 years ago

They just don't look the same. They were designed to be displayed on CRT displays, so the quality is actually worse on LCDs. Just look up pictures comparing the two.

You can get a converter box for about $100 that makes it pretty close, though.

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donuts 1 point 3 years ago

These days I'd much rather pay 8-bit games on a 65inch 4k tv via HDMI with shadow mask and (light) scanline emulation filters, than over composite video to a small CRT. To reach their own though.

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synapse1278 1 point 3 years ago

I am so excited for this new raspberry pi !

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mankeulv 0 points 3 years ago

Aw yissss... About time!

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Kichae -9 points 3 years ago path: 0 3866724, hotness: undefined, score: -9, children: 1
AlteredStateBlob 15 points 3 years ago

What's your point?

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