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AnarchoBolshevik 34 points 3 years ago

I highly doubt that Moscow has a policy to massacre unarmed civilians or treat them like garbage. It made sense for the Axis because it was either part of its long‐term goals of colonization or terrorizing people into obeying its demands, but in the Russian Federation’s case all that it would do is create a propaganda victory for its enemies… this is (obviously) not to say that the Russian Federation is leaving all civilians unharmed; civilian casualties are almost inevitable in warfare, and there may even be a few undisciplined soldiers doing it intentionally, but we really have no good reason to believe that it’s policy like it usually was in the Axis’s case.

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pipedpiper 31 points 3 years ago
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deathtoreddit 16 points 3 years ago

Is it ok if you can give me a link?

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pipedpiper 22 points 3 years ago
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Phenyq 6 points 3 years ago

Don't forget UA purging Bucha of "collaborators" few days after russians leave the area

Or Tochka-U missile attack on Kramatorsk killing more than 50 people

All that was done and than blamed on russians. Kramatorsk was done precisely to blame it on russians

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pipedpiper 5 points 3 years ago
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kig_v2 23 points 3 years ago

If anything, at a systemic level the Russians have even put themselves at militarily disadvantageous positions to avoid civilian casualties. The fiery start to the war was almost entirely military infrastructure and they have always avoided civilian infrastructure. Not to mention the millions they consensually evacuate and provide shelter and safety for. Which makes sense when it is recognized that this war is in part about coming to the aid of victims of Nazis.

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pipedpiper 24 points 3 years ago
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Shrike502 8 points 3 years ago

IIRC the pro-nato channels that did mention it, claimed it was Russia shelling Ukrainian humanitarian corridors

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pipedpiper 7 points 3 years ago
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PolandIsAStateOfMind 21 points 3 years ago

UN estimate total number of civilians killed on both sides on around 10000 since the Russian intervention in 2022. Considering lenght and intensity of the war, and number of military casualties being many times higher, this war have very low civilian casualty ratio compared to for example Iraq war. This not only don't point on Russia using anything like US shock & awe doctrine, but opposite.

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ihaveibs 29 points 3 years ago

It is very disturbing how Reddit-like that response is

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kig_v2 23 points 3 years ago

It's like how the Vichy French gov't was populated by rookie conservative nerd Heritage Foundation-esque freaks. The leaders of Western neoliberalism tomorrow are Reddit nerds whose interest in politics started from LARPing fascism in HOI4 and guzzling political compass memes.

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201dberg 20 points 3 years ago

Almost like they are all astroturfed by the same 3 letter agencies.

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Beat_da_Rich 16 points 3 years ago

Absolutely surreal in the worst ways to see a major world conflict being fought in part with smug social media dunks.

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SpaceDogs 24 points 3 years ago

The delivery of this is so fucking embarrassing, it’s like how brand tweets try so hard to be relatable, and in this context it’s sickening.

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toilet_wolf 18 points 3 years ago

it reads like a reddit comment

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SpaceDogs 14 points 3 years ago

Right? Like, who the hell are they hiring?

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EuthanatosMurderhobo 21 points 3 years ago

You sure are experts...

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DesiDebugger 15 points 3 years ago

I really expected this full descent into neo Nazism to be more gradual.....

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 17 points 3 years ago

Libs also can have the weeks in which decades happen.

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DesiDebugger 12 points 3 years ago

I guess the faster capitalism decays the faster they turn fash.

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ButtigiegMineralMap 13 points 3 years ago

Wow. I’m in awe. So now we can’t even call Nazis Racist🤦‍♂️ Fr tho, like can anyone explain to me why since last month people are sprouting up saying the SS weren’t Nazis? I’m not saying they’re right, but what grounds do they have to make this claim? It seems like if any group were explicitly Nazis it was certainly the SS right???

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aleshasmiles 12 points 3 years ago

They are attempting to separate the SS from the official Third Reich by distinguishing as a paramilitary force distinct from the Wermacht. This is only true in the most technical superficial sense. In reality, the Wermacht were invading most of Europe while the SS were literally facilitating the holocaust in all occupied territories.

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aleshasmiles 13 points 3 years ago

The German ambassador to Canada literally participated in a standing ovation to an actual veteran of the Waffen SS

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