How will Reddit react when blackout starts, will it be positive or negative. What do you think?

3 years ago by mr_MADAFAKA to c/general_discussion

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darkstar 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks for the link!

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imkmiaw 11 points 3 years ago

I honestly think it would be better if there was an indefinite shut down of all the subreddits that are participating. Even if Reddit tries to kick out the mods and replace them, they shouldn't be able to replace them all in a matter of days.

It's still my opinion that the shut down of the 3rd party apps on June 30th will be a heavier burden on Reddit.

I stopped browsing Reddit already and will delete my account on June 30th.

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Ataraxia 5 points 3 years ago

Agreed. I'm on board with that and actually like the idea of looking around for something new. I'm hoping lemmy will be a fun place to spend time, I'm done with reddit.

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oxydot 7 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure nothing will change. Most people will actually start using the official app and quit 3rd party knowing they will eventually stop working soon. However i'm happy to have found this place, if lemmy grows in popularity is primarily thanks to reddit API changes. Will it be enough to surpass Reddit? we'll see.

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Fubarberry 6 points 3 years ago

Even if it doesn't grow much more, I'm actually enjoying Lemmy a lot with the current user base size. Reddit changed a lot during the early years of growth, this feels a lot more like the early reddit that got me using the site.

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Ataraxia 5 points 3 years ago

I don't think enough people hate themselves to go to the official app after using a 3rd party one. I tried multiple times before I moved to Joey and Joey is the only reason I browse reddit at all. Using the official app is like trying to swim with a full suit of armor on and a migraine.

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oxydot 4 points 3 years ago

I used to be a Joey user too! But let's face it, official app wil be the only one available, unless you are willing to move and learn Lemmy (not easy for casuals) people "have to" use it.

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Kaladin_Stormblessed 1 point 3 years ago

People say that a lot, but Lemmy doesn’t seem too hard to use tbh. The iOS app isn’t great, but it’s in beta testing, so that’s to be expected lol.

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Deemo 7 points 3 years ago

If its not more than two days I doubt it will do anything: https://youtu.be/U06rCBIKM5M?t=240

That being said my biggest gripe with subs going dark is most of them are resorting to discord as the reddit alternative (which it really isn't). I do wish more subs were willing to add a join us on lemmy in the blackout message since it would aid in transferig communities (although idk how lemmy is with not tech savy people).

Thats my two cents anyway

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forbin 4 points 3 years ago

I just signed up here as a result of looking for a Reddit alternative. Honestly I'd like to see federated alternatives to social media in general so I'm sticking around. Hopefully others do the same

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ggt 6 points 3 years ago

From previous movements like this, I seriously doubt much will change. Lemmy will get a lot of people and Reddit will lose some people. Some subreddits will be gone or replaced. Maybe a few investors stop supporting Reddit, but other than that, nothing.

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Repulsa 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah I can't see there being much of an impact. The wheel will keep turning.

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DarkTides 4 points 3 years ago

I don't know. But I thank Reddit for it leading to the creation of this wonderful instance where we can be more free when discussing the high seas.

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pirate 4 points 3 years ago

I hope reddit shuts down lol but i doubt that would be possible

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iorale 3 points 3 years ago
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Fubarberry 2 points 3 years ago

Honestly they could cut the api prices a lot and have them still be usable. I could imagine them cutting API prices significantly (although still leaving them kinda high) or otherwise changing API terms like having to include official reddit ads in 3rd party apps.

There's plenty of compromises available at this point that could make the reddit user base feel like "they won" while still being very profitable for reddit. Opening with a ridiculous API price and then compromising to a still high API price could be an effective use of the door in the face technique.

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iorale 2 points 3 years ago
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EGirlEnthusiast 3 points 3 years ago

I'm hoping theres enough communities that will not be returning ever to make reddit walkback its choices. Returning after 2 days isnt enough, unfortunately

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Undefined0968 3 points 3 years ago

I think it will result in little except for a few exclusions like RedReader for blind people.

That's because the blackout hasn't made any suggestions (AFAIK) to help with the reason why reddit are doing it,

Which is making more money off scraper bots

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Biorix 2 points 3 years ago

They could have a lower price Or they could give low price API keys to apps and make the scrap bot pays.

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ggt 4 points 3 years ago

Or they could just not charge for the API period. Reddit is valued at billions of dollars and has (or at least had) a bunch of investors, so it's very clear they don't need to do this. Not to mention a lot of other people pointed out suggestions in the AMA (not that they listened lol)

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Biorix 5 points 3 years ago

They have investors because they are not profitable, they still need to make money. YouTube is worth a lot of money but it's still not profitable.

They probably thought that could be their profitable business model.

Its not crazy to charge for an API above an amount of request. What's insane is the amount they choose to charge.

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