Oh and by the way, it seems that Trump cannot be elected Speaker due to some rules of the House that Republicans put in place about electing someone with felony indictments.

Not saying that's untrue, but source? I'd like to look it over for myself.

Edit: Found this.

Yes, the GOP has Rule 26(a) and the Democrats have Rule 4, both of which say the speaker can’t hold the seat while under indictment. However, these rules aren’t legally binding and aren’t always followed.

@logicbomb @MicroWave

This is what happens when self-entitled children get elected to office and why I hate half of my fellow citizens with such vitriol.

They shit on the floor, smeared paint on the walls and then burned down the entire house.

Their take on it?

"I can't believe you let me do that. Whats wrong with you?!?!?!"

Reading that summary just tells me that everything is for sale in congress. Votes. Elected officials. Bills. Citizens. Everyone is constantly trying to get leverage to get what they want, and the country is caught in between them.

The GOP is a political mafia whose donors believed they had whipped the Democrats into servitude. Good for democracy.. down with the Grand Old Pedophiles

My sense is that if he had felt it were at all possible for him to stay in power by working with the minority party, he absolutely would have done it - he just knew it wasn’t.

aye, i think he saw the wind was blowing against him either way, so he decided to get up and lambaste the Dems on the way out

Jeff is awesome. I hope he sticks around for a while.

“Now look what you’ve made me do!”

It's like a weight lifter who only works their biceps. They have one trick, and they're discovering the limitations therein.

They got voted out by their own party and still went for that bicep curl of "blame Democrats;" It just exposes their withering weakness when it comes to actually trying to negotiate in good-faith.

Now this is a meme worth reviving!

Yeah, it get that politics is politics, and to work together you need to sometimes separate a little bit what is said in an interview and what you can hash out on legislation on a personal level.

But damn did McCarthy go all out calling out the Democrats that weekend after ambushing them with a 70 page bill and an hour to read it. If he hoped to get Democrats support he should have put forward a better bill or kept his mouth shut over weekend.

Not only that, but he promised earlier in the year that any bill would have 72 hours for people to read through before a vote happened. So that's another promise he blew off.

You left out the most relevant part where they them blamed Obamq

they very clearly have a set of goals and a platform, and that platform is pander to the hyper-weathy donors who drive their politics.

and thanks to Citizens United (or the NRA) many of those are foreign

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Just once I'd love in passing on the floor of the House from a Dem, "blah blah blah, for example child raper Matt Goetz, blah blah" with a casual hand gesture in that monster's direction

Who on the house floor actually occupies this position. It's only rhetoric used in debate netween regular people.

Nothing like Jordan seeking the spotlight to give journos a reason to look into why his nickname is "Gym".

This couldn't possibly backfire, could it?

That should be quite the circus.

The thing is, McCarthy also broke promises to the Democrats. He cooperated one time to keep the stock market happy, but otherwise reneged on half a dozen other deals. The only way for someone to be less cooperative would be if they let the government shutdown.

McCarthy reneged on a spending deal he made with Biden, and then refused to even allow a vote on a bipartisan spending bill proposed by the Senate. The only reason he worked with Democrats in the first place (at the eleventh hour, I would add) is because the alternative would have been a government shutdown entirely caused by the GOP -- and he probably still would have lost his job in the end. He's shown himself to be untrustworthy, uncooperative, and spineless when it comes to the MAGA wackos in his party; honestly, the only reasonable choice was to give him the boot.

No, McCarthy did not cooperate with the Democrats.

• He and the GOP hammered out a deal with Biden months ago that would have avoided all this mess. He didn't even let that get voted on. It would have, at any point, completely prevented this, and when Gaetz pulled this stunt it would have backfired completely because the Dems would have supported him.

• The first "compromise" bill he tried to ram through had a number of completely insane GOP riders in it, and he tried to prevent the Democrats from merely reading what they were voting on.

• The second one, likewise, had the insane concept of stripping out Ukraine funding, with the Dems again stalling just to be able to read the damn thing before they voted on it.

Then, after being fucking saved by the Democratic members of congress, he has the gall to run to the news networks and decry them as trying to shut down the government.

The crazy thing is why the hell did he or any of his people think that the Dems would deign to support him after he screwed them over multiple times.

He damn well made his bed, and now he's sleeping in it.

McCarthy allowing the CR to be voted on was at the end of a long attempt to do everything he could to go back on the deal he made with Democrats to pass the bill to raise the debt ceiling and didn't fulfill his side of the bargain. There's no both sidesing this mess. The Republicans have decided that they would rather be held hostage by an extremist minority in their party than negotiate in good faith with Democrats so McCarthy was running between the extremists and Democrats making and breaking deals with both trying to string them both along so that he could remain in power. If he had kept his debt ceiling deal and/or made a real attempt to build a bipartisan coalition he might have gotten some support from Democrats.

In the House, voting to support a speaker is not a one-and-done thing. The Speaker sets the agenda for the House sessions, but that agenda needs a majority to approve it, every single session. There is an underlying commitment that after the Speaker is elected, the members who elected him support his agenda moving forward.

Nestor's "dad" tried this route first, after the Debt ceiling "deal" (which McCarthy eventually broke, but that's besides the point). The next time the House met, the MAGAs started voting against McCarthy's agenda, and since the opposition party always votes to oppose that the House was also paralyzed, because the agenda could not be approved so nothing could happen. McCarthy made even more crazy concessions to get their votes back.

So if any Democrats supported McCarthy in this, then McCarthy would have had to count on their support from that point forward. And let's face it, even if McCarthy had promised stuff for those votes, who would trust him to deliver after the Debt ceiling bill went South?

I still think there's room for Democrats in this, but only after Republicans keep twisting in the wind. After their fifteenth (or fiftieth?) vote with no resolution, some Democrats and Republicans may agree on a moderate Republican to support. (It will have to be a Republican, as long as they still have an overall majority). But from that point on, that person will need to rely on support from that entire bloc that voted for them to get shit done. If that does happen, though, expect Nestor's "dad" to scream even louder about a Uniparty....

Well from the non-fascists point of view, one lying #GOP scumbag is pretty much the same as the next.