As a side-note: You can download Wikipedia.
As a side-note: You can download Wikipedia.
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Next they just need to find a way to charge their phone.
Note, my "go back in time" kit includes my phone with a waterproof case AND a solar charger...
And what do you know, so focused on the charger I forgot to download anything. Moooom, can we go back to the 21st century? I gotta peeeeeee.
86 GB? Yike.
86GB is nothing for a condensed form of all human knowledge
Yeah. I had to expand your comment to see what you said, but when I read 86GB I audibly said, "that's not bad at all."
I can fit a summary of all human knowledge on an external 1TB hard drive, and still have room for Skyrim and all the mods that I want.
But it is a lot to fit on a phone.
Then you realize that, back then, the only thing they had were Xfinity hot spots.
All you have to do is teaching intelligent people some math and tell them about experiments and that nature can be understood. The rest will follow.
Everything can be accelerated by adding the idea of the printing press.
pretty sure you can just use wood or whatever for the lettering, sure it might be kinda shit and tend to break but it should work. having to make new letter stamps every now and then is better than painstakingly writing every letter for hand.
The main problem with that is that you can't make the types very small with wood, and the singlemost expensive ingredient in this whole printing press concept is the paper.
So you would end up having books with very little text on each page, and especially in a slave economy, it would just be much cheaper to make handwritten copies, since you could cram a lot more words on each page.
And again, this is not adressing the issue of even having the skill to make paper in the first place.
Not to mention inventing an alphabet depending on where and when you go to. Or you could go with ConstantScript if you feel like being a gigantic troll.
Abugida might be workable if you reform it so that vowel markers can only appear above or below the modified consonant.
Paper making is not that hard if you use cotton fibers instead of wood pulp
Also Aristotle accidently killing atomic theory for over 2000 years
Same can be said of all the ancient civilizations.
But the key insight is that all of nature is predictable and behaves according to natural laws that can be deduced through experiments.
That leads to the scientific revolution which leads to the industrial revolution.
In Sid Meier's Civilization sure, but real history is a lot more complex than that. There were people who came to that conclusion since ancient times without it leading to a scientific and industrial revolution, because there were a lot more factors at play with those than just simply the idea of it.
Just pack a cheat sheet:
Holy shit that's so crunchy, can I get a version with less pixels?
https://i.imgur.com/O6vSrvq.jpg

speaking of health, wouldn't you die to some disease you are not immune to? or even more likely you would cause a plague that their bodies don't lnow how to fight off, like imagine bringing back some covid variant with you.
I mean, us bringing back something to kill them seems more likely, despite our comparatively weak immune system’s. Be it COVID-19 or an STD. Hell, even our metal/plastic ridden bodies would be a potential issue for their environment if we died.
That was a nice educational read.
This book tells you that it's really, really fucking hard.
I don't have the book myself, but he gave a TED talk which I saw.
The fact that neither of these is the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy makes me weep for mankind. Where's my overpass!?
This is good stuff!
Edit - now i need a big ass tattoo and a time machine
Eat lots of fat and protein if you want a big ass. I suggest pizza with eggs.
I read this recently. It's great, though I think it could give clearer instructions with more diagrams, and cover some subjects a lot better
Let's see... electricity in a preindustrial environment. You'll get into Factorio levels of invent a tool to make a tool to make a tool...
Copper wire existed at the time, (depending on the time period) but drawing it involved a person on a swing pulling it through a hole in a metal plate. So we need a metal plate. Surely there is a town blacksmith? We will need a few plates with gradually decreasing hole diameter. Enough wire for a demonstration would be difficult and expensive, but not impossible. Could also use copper busbars instead of wire.
Now that we have conductors, we have to figure out what method of generation we want. Rather than trying to make bearings, balanced shafts, and stacks of thin metal plates all identical and radially symmetrical so we can make a generator, we should first attempt a battery. For this we can get away with stacks of two dissimilar metals in a glass or ceramic jar, bathed in some sulfuric acid. Aqua Regia was a mixture of nitric acid and sulfuric acid, but it might dissolve copper and zinc plates. Could also use lead plates, those are easier to hammer out flat. With this we could get an output around 2v per cell, put a half dozen of them together in series and one could build a simple arc lamp.
After the proof of concept demonstration, hopefully you'd interest more smiths in the project, increasing your talent pool. With some mercury and wire you could build a version of Faraday's homopolar motor.
After that I'd probably be burned at the stake.
I just know a guy who sell copper.
We need some sorta optimal pathing tech tree.
Man if we could just find the user manual for the universe
There was a short story I read ages ago in some collection somewhere I've been dying to find. I think it was from the 60s or 70s, but a scientist brings a man from the future and the man is just a normal guy, so he can't explain anything to the scientist's satisfaction and the scientist gets more and more exasperated.
The dialogue was like:
"What is the dominant mode of transport in the future?"
"Oh, we fleem."
"Fleem? What's fleem?"
"It's a kind of garbol but with more slimp."
"Okay, never mind. How do you do it?"
"Oh, that's easy, you simply merfingle the blem and you're fleeming away!"
"WHAT IS THE BLEM?!?"
Yooo, this sounds funny as frickin heck. Anyone knows this?
I've been trying to find it again for like 2 years now and asked in a lot of places. No luck.
Reminds me of a short story I read in the 70s. I ended up having to go to the house I read it in (a decade ago) to find the book it was in, now everyone in my family owns copies of that book (Alfred Hitchcock's Best in Suspense if I recall, not getting up to look) just so we can do Halloween readings of the story that made us all jump every time we saw anything move out of the corner for our eyes for like a week the first time we read it. They Bite by Anthony Boucher. Great story.
I feel like I definitely read that in middle/high school
It isn't so hard really, to make electricity even in the olden days.
A dynamo is just a copper wire with a magnet spinning inside.
Making a copper wire you can accomplish by having a hole at the bottom of a kiln that drops directly into a big vat of water. Or even just drawing a line in the sand and pouring it in there.
Getting your hands on a natural magnet might pose more problems, but ultimately those are found in nature. So they should have already been dug up by someone.
Using the electricity usefully is harder. Since creating a light bulb needs access to gasses. What could we even use the electricity for?
Could you also do ac/dc conversion to make the electricity useful elsewhere? I'm guessing charging and transporting primitive batteries won't be able to fulfill any useful purpose at all.
You can create light with electricity with two carbon rods to make an arc light. It was literally the first electric light source and in widespread use for a long while, along with incandescent bulbs.
You just invented cumbersome fire. Ugh ugh. No good.
I'm a caveman, I have night vision, why need pretty lamps?
You should watch Dr Stone
This is exhilarating
Electrocuting elephants?
"What's a magnet?"
Umm you go to the beach and something about certain grains will be different. Look mate, see how you boil liquid. Do that with milk until just before it boils and that's the milk now pasteurised which means it will kill the things in it that make you ill. Also boil the water before drinking it?
That's all I got. I guess sphagnum moss is good for absorbing blood/dealing with wounds?
“Get something bottle-ish, add a layer of charcoal, a layer of sand, hooray and a cheer! you just beat diahrea”
Do that with milk until just before it boils and that’s the milk now pasteurised which means it will kill the things in it that make you ill.
Imagine being Louis Pasteur and finding out that your research success is already being done in a technique with your namesake for thousands of years.
Ooooh, tell me more about this mythical wire
A fucking miracle according to some
Watch this Jim Al-Khalili documentary for the BBC, then jump into the time machine.
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Part of that image is cropped, just below the diagram of the wing. That's going to be an interesting test flight!
try this instead https://www.rebuildingcivilization.com/...
For anyone interested a simple way is to wrap copper wire around a magnet. Static electricity was also one of the first ways people started noticing electricity.
Parlor tricks might be able to get you far when you time travel to the ancient past.
Wrap it in the wire, then spin one of them. That part's important! Won't do anything if you don't spin it.
He'll be fine as long as he has a cat and buttered toast.
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Starring Ricky Gervais is presume?
Business majors
Project manager: "Absolutely the developers can implement it!"
The developers: 😑😑😑
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Something to do with turbines.
Water wheels seem to spin a turbine. Maybe it generated current or something. Similar with windmills? Gyroscope or something.
Solar ? Quite clearly magical and a heretic, likely to burn me at the stake. Steam power pushes steam through A turbine maybe ?
Lightening sky electricity. Get a bunch of metal and kites. Die.
Photovoltaic isn’t the only solar. Probably much easier back then to direct mirrors at a kettle to drive a steam turbine.
Ah. So turbines are steam. So ,magnets are key. Magic metal
Spinning an iron bar between another iron bar wrapped with one thin copper piece makes zap light.
It also makes a magnet for convenience.
So magic ? To the burning pile
Joke's on you, that's my fetish
Kinky
You might want to check out this movie ; Idiocracy.
Go away, I'm 'batin'
People always think about going to the past for their knowledge power-trip, when going to the future could be even dumber.
If you could find a jeweller and had an understanding of basic electrical systems, you could probably get a rudimentary capacitor and engine going. From there, who knows what you could do. Maybe even lightbulbs.
You can also use a sacrificial gas that burns off before the filament. Saw it in a youtube video https://youtu.be/ThBkzEfjVl0?si=gJW8JyD8KM1Y5Ye8
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You could fill it with co2 .put an animal bladder on the mouth of a clay bottle where something is fermenting like wine or beer. The yeast will produce a fair ammount of c02 and fill the bladder. Use the bladder to fill the bulb. It wont last long but it will be longer than just air
"I don't know, but let me tell you about how 5G activates the vaccines"
First of all, no one would understand you, but how someone already pointed out, make a spool with copper and spin it. For bonus points, put a iron slab inside the spool
Edit: as someone pointed out you kinda need a magnet
eh language barriers are generally overstated i think, people with completely unrelated languages develop pidgins within the decade, and if you're dropped into a place where they speak some complete gibberish like french you'll still just naturally figure it out given a year or so of being forced to endure it.
That is very true, but maybe they would just kill you or think that you are crazy before you would have the chance to actually change mankind
Ok, I'm in let's be technology jesus
Ever tried Chaucer? And he was only 14th century.
English has changed a lot (no I've not read a lot of poetry in languages other than my own), some others may have changed less. Maybe Aramaic, Hebrew, Arabic. Greek has changed but some people know ancient Greek
You spin the turbine, duh
What's a magnet
Something that people miss though is that they do hit some roadblocks that if not for some extremely lucky coincidences, they wouldn't have any way to do it. Specifically for various materials that just so happen to be around them.
I'd just be glad to finally return to monke
You rub cats together Duh
I mean, from this thread it shows people kinda remember stuff from those classes, but are missing a lot. Which is understandable, people left school and didn't use that information, it doesn't make you stupid.
But then you think, oh yeah! I remember how to make electricity, I need copper and an iron rock! So you spend all this time trying to manufacture some relatively thin copper wire, iron would probably be a little easier to find, wrap it around and then you're like.... Okay what went wrong? Annnnd you can't remember you actually needed a magnet and you gotta spin it.
Then do you remember learning how to store it? Connect it to anything useful? Maybe kinda, but extrapolate the first situation to every topic ever and that's what you'd get, half baked ideas that you don't really remember the specifics of. And the specifics really actually matter lol.
Even if you studied it, the answer boils down to "magic".
You take these magnets, and move them around these long snakes of metal (because electrons can move easily through metal) and that makes the electrons in the wires move.
Okay, why does moving around a magnet near metal make something inside it move?
Well there's something we call the "Lorentz force" which basically pushes a magnetic thing in a specific way if you move another magnetic thing around it
But why does that happen?
Magic
Idk man Jackson's Classic Electrodynamics left me feeling like a jock in calculus.
Not really though. You can say that about anything if so. If I don't understand why atoms exist, does that make the universe "magic"?
I mean I get what you're saying kind of, but understanding the basics of electrical power is not the stuff of sorcerers.
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