The reasoning that he doesn't want it to be used like newpipe is really optimistic on his part. People break license all the time on much larger applications.

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nix 9 points 3 years ago

Only on android :/ i thought it was going to be a progressive web app

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jeebus 9 points 3 years ago

I almost switched to iPhone, thankfully this came out to show me why that is a bad idea. I just need to de-gpogle.

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princessnorah 7 points 3 years ago

Wait, why would this one app currently only being available on Android make switching a bad idea? Seems like a weird thing to base a decision that big on…

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Chewy7324 2 points 3 years ago

It's more about the ability for such apps to exist. Other apps include Tachiyomi (manga reader) and similar apps that are not allowed because of the app stores terms of service.

Hopefully Apple will soon be forced to allow such apps to exist outside of their store. Freedom to install what I want is a main reason I switched back from an iPhone to a Pixel with GrapheneOS.

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nix 2 points 3 years ago

This one app to use a google service stopped you from moving away from a google operating system? Lol

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sir_reginald 6 points 3 years ago

you can degoogle android. good luck removing apple from your iPhone tho

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jeebus 4 points 3 years ago

I am going to use a privacy focussed android instead.

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netchami 0 points 3 years ago

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Arghblarg 7 points 3 years ago

Yow! that looks pretty awesome. I installed it and added the Nebula plugin... wonder if there's a CuriosityStream one as well?

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leave_it_blank 1 point 3 years ago

Can you tell what payment options they offer? I can't find info on the website, and my options are rather limited. Thank you!

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HeavyRaptor 2 points 3 years ago

You can use the app for as long as you like until you decide if you want to pay. Looks to me like it's credit card or cashapp at the moment with crypto and carrier based options coming .

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HeavyRaptor 3 points 3 years ago

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leave_it_blank 1 point 3 years ago

Thank you very much, that was the info I was looking for!!

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Arghblarg 2 points 3 years ago

For Nebula/CuriosityStream? I only remember I bought a combo membership near Christmas the last two years -- they usually offer a year-long subscription for like $11 USD around the holidays. Look out for those, I really like CuriosityStream and find it's worth it.

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leave_it_blank 1 point 3 years ago

I meant for the app, but it might be a good idea to pick up Nebula as well, I was thinking about that for a long time. Thanks!

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PipedLinkBot 3 points 3 years ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

here

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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rush 24 points 3 years ago

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Tunawithshoes 9 points 3 years ago

Just want to add to your yatte this source/instance this gives you a lot of instances to start with so you don’t need to add them manually.

https://r.yattee.stream/...

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NiaTheCat 6 points 3 years ago

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Holzkohlen 19 points 3 years ago

I use freetube on linux, newpipe on android.

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netchami 0 points 3 years ago

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nickiam2 16 points 3 years ago

GrayJay just came out into the testing phase. It not only supportsYouTubee but also Nebula, Odysee, Twitch, PeerTube and a few others with more to come. Works great so far. grayjay.app. Built by Futo, a nonprofit company which Louis Rossmann works for. His video here

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Nyarlathotep 2 points 3 years ago

Looks like a good option, unfortunately it would not run for me on an Android emulator in Windows. (LDPlayer 5)

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Shea 2 points 3 years ago

If you're on Windows 10 or 11 just install it natively with WSA. You might have to look up a tutorial. I've yet to have a compatibility issue

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Nyarlathotep 1 point 3 years ago

Whoa, I thought that was only for Win 11. Cool, thanks!

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retiolus 15 points 3 years ago

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figaro 15 points 3 years ago

GrayJay just launched and it's fucking fantastic.

It combines YouTube and Twitch into one platform in a really intuitive way. Has its own comment system and rating system for videos. No ads obviously. It's a whole fucking thing and it's incredible.

https://grayjay.app/index.html

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sir_reginald 9 points 3 years ago

and it's not free software. only source available with a license that doesn't allow forking.

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mnemonicmonkeys 1 point 3 years ago

And they do it so they can take down malicious copycats on Google Play

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yum13241 5 points 3 years ago

Which they could already do, with basic trademark law and just forcing all derivatives to be non-commercial. Cyrptominers are commercial.

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Chewy7324 4 points 3 years ago

Forcing all derivatives work to be non-commercial is incompatible with being open source.

https://opensource.org/osd/

Though I agree that they can already prevent usage of their app name with trademark laws.

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ExLisper 0 points 3 years ago

So what's the actual problem is? It's just a front end to other platforms, they will not lock you in and than break the app. You can use it and if it goes bad you switch to other front end. I would understand the 'not free' objections if it was a tool you introduce into our workflow that would later be hard to replace. Here there's no lock in. What do you care if it can be forked?

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Chewy7324 3 points 3 years ago

Some people (including me) care about software freedom. The ability to fork and redistribute software while continuing to publish any changes to the code is great.

Not using an open source license but a source available license is not something that I like to see, but it's their right to do so. There're enough open source YouTube frontends like NewPipe and LibreTube.

PS: What I really don't like is them using the term open source. Open source is a well known term that's well defined. Source available describes exactly what this app is without implying the freedoms associated with open source.

https://opensource.org/osd/

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ExLisper 1 point 3 years ago

With some tools open source has many advantages, with others it's mostly about transparency. IMHO this case is the latter case. You won't gain much by being able to fork it. I don't like it when people criticize projects only because those don't align with their personal philosophy. Don't use it if you don't like it but there's really no good reason for others to avoid it.

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soggy_kitty 0 points 3 years ago

Except you have to give one app credentials for all of your platforms. It's also 335MB!?

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Lettuceeatlettuce 3 points 3 years ago

Credentials? What are you talking about? There is not sign in or signup required for the app at all.

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henrikx 3 points 3 years ago

Time to upgrade if your phone can't handle 350MB lol

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soggy_kitty -13 points 3 years ago

Time to upgrade your SSD because the new call of duty is 175GB lol.

What a fucking mindset you have on you there 💀

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henrikx 4 points 3 years ago

I get what you're trying to say but 350 MB is close to nothing in 2023.

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jackmarxist 2 points 3 years ago

It's the universal build. Download for your architecture (arm64) which is 127 mb

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JakenVeina 11 points 3 years ago

SmartTube is excellent on our NVidia Shield. Not sure what other platforms it works on.

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DemBoSain 5 points 3 years ago

Seconding SmartTube on android TV. No ads, can automatically skip all sorts of content in videos (spoken ads, self-promotion, introduction segments, etc. etc. etc.) I dread the day it stops working.

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Jasper_Ted_Vidal_Tale 11 points 3 years ago

FreeTube https://freetubeapp.io/

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aux 10 points 3 years ago

I came across this website thanks to someone sharing it here, so I thought I’d do the same: https://fmhy.pages.dev/storage/#youtube-frontends

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guts 9 points 3 years ago

Best overall SmartTube for Android TV and NewPipe with SponsorBlock for Android.

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Mr_Blott 3 points 3 years ago

Thanks, been looking for something for TV!

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netchami 1 point 3 years ago

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vicfic 7 points 3 years ago

Newpipe for Android. Hands down the best iv used.

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HerbalGamer 2 points 3 years ago

I just tried it earlier but was taken aback that I couldn't find any way to login. Is that meant to be that way?

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GaimDS 4 points 3 years ago

Yes, your info is stored locally so you dont need to login to the YouTube API, i use newpipe to watch the videos and read some comments, not to interact or upload videos since that's impossible on newpipe

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netchami 1 point 3 years ago

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vicfic 1 point 3 years ago

I have heard about it, but does It have this?

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netchami 0 points 3 years ago

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257m 6 points 3 years ago

Freetube, Individious, Piped, CloudTube, PokeTube, Tubo, Yattee are the main ones I know of. If you want be automatically redirected to alternative youtube frontends installed Lib Redirect.

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gasull 6 points 3 years ago

NewPipe SponsorBlock

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Contend6248 6 points 3 years ago

Invidious

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EstT 6 points 3 years ago

YouTube revanced works super well.

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isotope 5 points 3 years ago

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Shameless 5 points 3 years ago

Can someone explain to me why I want the video proxied vs the video coming directly from YT via a front end? I've used YouTube Vanced in the past and it was awesome when it worked

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JayJay 8 points 3 years ago

Get revanced, it works now.

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neosheo 3 points 3 years ago

Its for privacy. This way youtube doesnt get your ip and has more difficulty figuring out who you are

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DeltaTangoLima 4 points 3 years ago

I'm self-hosting Piped and couldn't be happier. Clean, distraction free and, importantly, private. No data mining. Importing your subscriptions from a Google Takeout dump is simple.

LibreTube for Android is my mobile client, and talks to my Piped server without any issues. The only thing missing at this stage is a client for my Chromecast GTVs. For those, I still watch YouTube with SmartTubeNext, which means keeping two sets of subscriptions in sync. A little frustrating, but relatively painless, for the privacy benefits.

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Granixo 4 points 3 years ago

How about alternatives to Youtube?

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abbadon420 10 points 3 years ago

Most alternatives are pretty great, but they can never have the amount of content and the reach that youtube has. Youtube has a monopoly and they know it. They can do whatever they want, because you can't leave.

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Granixo -1 points 3 years ago

urge for h.266 intensifies

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visnudeva 3 points 3 years ago

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plumbercraic 4 points 3 years ago

Been using revanced for a while - had no idea there were this many alternatives. I like revanced though, especially with stube on Google tv.

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visnudeva 3 points 3 years ago

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gim 3 points 3 years ago

Invidious. If you look up invidious instances you can find plenty of them and choose one that’s in your country so it’s nice and fast. Sometimes they take an extra second to load but there are no ads so it’s worth it

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CriticalMiss 2 points 3 years ago

I can only recommend piped sadly, Invidious still make you connect to Google servers and do not proxy the video for you.

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rush 1 point 3 years ago

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Contend6248 1 point 3 years ago

If you don't see the option in the settings, you might have to try another instance, it is a feature but instances can disable it for obvious reasons.

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neosheo 2 points 3 years ago

On android i like newpipe + sponsorblock and clipious. Id use clipious all the time but it sometimes doesnt play and then i fall back on newpipe. Newpipe has downloading too.

I dont use youtube much on desktop but when i do i use invidious

Oh and i use smartubenext on android tv

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Oliper202020 1 point 3 years ago

YouTube vanced, I just had a very sad few years on iOS, boy did I miss YouTube vanced

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SomeBoyo 3 points 3 years ago

Vanced is dead

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