Libertarian rule

3 years ago by RothyBuyak to c/196

qwamqwamqwam 68 points 3 years ago

Actual Facebook meme, but it confirms my biases, so upvote.

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exohuman 30 points 3 years ago

We had libertarians popular for a while in Michigan. Then they lost popularity. They usually align themselves to the right wing. In practice, they basically tried to block the government from helping the people at all. No school funding. No health care. Private ownership of all the land. No parks, protected lands or sanctuaries. No real environmental protections (so no public protection of the largest freshwater supply in the world, a precious resource), only property owners can sue for pollution, no gun regulations, no helping the poor or any social programs whatsoever, and a stronger state’s rights take on government (so the state can say no to everything too).

The good parts to me were that they didn’t support drug war policies and they don’t believe in government discrimination against any groups (but the “government” part is important there so I guess that’s not that good).

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Silinde 7 points 3 years ago

I mean, everything you described is exactly what Libertarianism is in the 21st century - placing the needs of the individual or business above the needs of society in general, which includes advocating for as little government interference as possible. It's why this meme, despite being Facebook cringe, is apropos.

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Drewfro66 1 point 3 years ago

I think the big problem with Libertarianism is that they have good ideas and bad ideas, but the powers that be use them to get the bad bits passed while blocking the good bits because they hurt shareholder profits.

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jerome 28 points 3 years ago

They're just republicans that smoke weed.

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SlowNoPoPo 8 points 3 years ago

the libertarian party yes, because they literally took over the us national party

the actual ideology, no

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IntheMesh 24 points 3 years ago

libertarianism is when no one works together appararently.

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outer_spec 38 points 3 years ago

Of course not, because that would be sharing, and communism is when sharing

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Something_Complex 28 points 3 years ago

They don't want to admit it but they are just a few steps away from anarchy.

Soo the, we got problems to big for one person alone to solve. If we let every fucker do whatever he wants we going down fast. We need inteligente population orientated to something good, organizerd trough democracy.

bUt i wANt mY GuNS AnD My moNEY.

They say while driving in public rodes with protection from a government that doesn't let companies poison their air, a gov that replaces the lead pipes, that conducts international policies needed for the survival of any contry....

Eddit:typos

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Omegamanthethird 27 points 3 years ago

The way Libertarians claim, in the broad sense, they are literally the same as anarchists.

However, most of the time when you get into the details, they just want the government to protect them doing whatever they want and oppress others. They're literally the same as conservatives.

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iopq 6 points 3 years ago

I kind of get your post, but you should seriously proof read it. I don't even know what the last sentence means

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1st 5 points 3 years ago

They say while driving on public roads provided by a government that doesn't let companies poison the air or install lead pipes for drinking water

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iopq 3 points 3 years ago

Poisoning the air or water is against the non-aggression principle of libertarianism. People who are okay with harming others are not libertarians, they are just LARPing Republicans.

Public roads is a difference of opinion. If there were private toll roads everywhere with a wireless chip for payment (to fund upkeep of the road) I would not be against that. The government has toll roads as well so I had to get the wireless chip anyway in California since I don't have exact change on me every time I drive on a bridge. If his higher cost of roads went to keeping them in better order and discouraged people from driving, that would be actually a benefit.

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Something_Complex 2 points 3 years ago

Thank you for speaking my retarded form of English

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Something_Complex 2 points 3 years ago

Hahaha I have lost a battle with my auto corrector, he just keeps changing words to Portuguese

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SneakyThunder 3 points 3 years ago

They don't want to admit it but they are just a few steps away from anarchy.

Pretty much everyone admits it. Minarchist (pro minimal govt) flag is literally ancap with black changed to blue.

Soo the, we got problems to big for one person alone to solve. If we let every fucker do whatever he wants we going down fast. We need inteligente population orientated to something good, organizerd trough democracy.

Free Market is essentially a "continuous democratic process". If what somebody does benefit people, he gets incentivised with profits. If people see no value in what he's doing – he gets losses. And if in the process of " doing whatever he wants" he does any harm to others ge gets sued.

And all of this happens constantly instead of once in a couple of years, without almost any accountability from those who're in power as it works in republic.

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anothercatgirl 12 points 3 years ago

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Something_Complex 2 points 3 years ago

Exactly it's not democratic. So what is wrong here would be the way we force our elected leaders to campaign, by having to accept donations you imediatly bring money into the table.

If all candidates had the same air time/publicity and couldn't do more outside of that budget the gov gave them. I believe it could improve, you could denounced oponets who are moved by money, and wouldn't be forced to accept non

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SneakyThunder 1 point 3 years ago

First of all lobbying and any other intrusion into fair competition is incompatible with free market.

As for the "rich" — without government enforced monopolies, their wealth is a representation of how much value they provide to society. Which roughly translates into their support by society. A bit like representative democracy, but more decentralized.

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scroll_responsibly 4 points 3 years ago

Some people having exponentially more votes than others is not democratic.

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reverendz 10 points 3 years ago

True story about what happened when libertarian-ism went into overdrive in a New Hampshire town.

https://www.vox.com/...

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exohuman 10 points 3 years ago

That was a fun read.

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SneakyThunder 9 points 3 years ago

Of course, because "every organization is less effective than individual" :P

Additionally it's "literally socialism"

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HariSeldon_official 4 points 3 years ago

USSR

United States Socialist Republics

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CurlyWurlies4All 15 points 3 years ago

“I don't want the Queen Mary,” he snapped back. “I plan to blow up the Queen Mary. I want speedboats.”

Jack Welch, CEO of GE and a cunt.

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bandario 12 points 3 years ago

I'm not really a big fan of this facebook meme, because I'd take the solo boat and some basic paddles any day over a large ship full of idiots with no means to propel itself.

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RaoulDook -1 points 3 years ago

I don't get why the activity of mocking Libertarians is so popular on Reddit and Lemmy. It's a 3rd party that never wins elections, and promotes individual freedom and fiscal responsibility. So what?

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The_Hideous_Orgalorg 4 points 3 years ago

Because they promote selfishness, and given their way, would benefit few at the expense of many. Humans are inherently stronger as a group than alone. We need to use that strength to do things for the common good, such as providing services such as fire fighters, libraries, and education. Libertarians would prefer to avoid helping anyone but themselves.

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Thteven 3 points 3 years ago

So what? So let's dance!

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danc4498 11 points 3 years ago

They look free to me

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Kantiberl 8 points 3 years ago

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Pixelologist 10 points 3 years ago

Identifying as either tells me you've already lost. (the government wins)

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MrMamiya 7 points 3 years ago

Jokes on all of us, there’s no true libertarian.

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can 4 points 3 years ago

Test

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MsPenguinette 4 points 3 years ago

They'll cause the problems then complain about the problems being the reason they needed to cause the problems

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MelonTheMan 3 points 3 years ago

A proper libertarian would recognize benefits of cooperation and government intervention in a LOT more segments than the current party line tends to state.

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MoltenHydrogen 3 points 3 years ago

what's wrong with liking books

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hexadence 3 points 3 years ago

When someone is so dependent on you that your separation is seen as betrayal..

Senpai.. I..

(˵ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°˵)

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MiddleWeigh 2 points 3 years ago

Meanwhile I'm still in denial that I'm even alive (:

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