How does reputation work on KBin?

3 years ago by Hondolor to c/AskKbin

I'm a little confused about how the upvote/downvote system works as related to your reputation on KBin. Can someone explain?

Devi 59 points 3 years ago

Upvotes don't do anything for personal points. Boost gives plus points, downvotes give negative points. If I like a post I upvote and boost it.

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Hondolor 31 points 3 years ago

So wait then it's way easier to get down votes than upvotes and get a bad reputation?

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NotAPenguin 37 points 3 years ago

It's just bugged atm.

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Bonehead 25 points 3 years ago

Yes, but you can boost your own comments to counteract the downvotes. The whole system is sketchy at best and shouldn't be relied on to determine anything about a user.

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HuddaBudda 12 points 3 years ago

OH NO! My fake internet points don't have VALUE?!

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Chariotwheel 8 points 3 years ago

That's just silly.

You shouldn't be able to give yourself points.

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jalda 8 points 3 years ago

I mean, in Reddit all your posts and comments are auto-upvoted.

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frevaljee 4 points 3 years ago

If you click on "more" you can also see everyone who up/downvoted and boosted a comment/post. So seeing that you upvoted/boosted yourself might be frowned upon by some. But who cares

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kobra 4 points 3 years ago

Or it should default to always self boosting (similar to reddit)

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exohuman 24 points 3 years ago

Yeah it’s broken atm.

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Hondolor 2 points 3 years ago

oof, I don't like how that is at all. Is this by design or will that change ever?

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exohuman 29 points 3 years ago

It will change. It wasn’t intentional.

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Hondolor 4 points 3 years ago

Oh thats a relief. It's silly but I love me some internet points

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Kichae 12 points 3 years ago

The upvote button on kbin was originally mapped to boosts. People didn't care for they, and it was incongruent with how Lemmy does it. So, they changed the functionality, but didn't get around to updating the rest of the reputation system.

That said, kbin doesn't federated down votes, so the system is going to be weird no matter what.

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Teppic 2 points 3 years ago

I thought kbin and Lemmy do federate down votes, but this isn't included in the wider fediverse protocol, yet ...but I might be wrong?

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Niello 1 point 3 years ago

I hope the boost and upvote list don't get messed up. I've been using boost for things I want to comeback later on top of things I want more visibility on. I'd hate to lose that and have to manually sort them.

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squawkduck 2 points 3 years ago

@Devi @Hondolor

Are plus/negative points purely for thread/comment ranking?

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supermurs 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks for the clarification, I've been wondering about the same thing too.

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verysoft 40 points 3 years ago

I hope they remove the reputation display, people farming karma points was stupid.

Up/down votes should be used for post/comment organising and nothing more imo.

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apemint 12 points 3 years ago

I agree. While a visible point system CAN be useful, in this context, it will just ultimately lead to farming and the subsequent degradation of post/comment quality.

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rastilin 5 points 3 years ago

It has downsides, but it can be revealing. For example most users have a pretty average reputation, around -5 to 10 points, since it's easier to lose reputation than to gain it. But there's two week old accounts walking around with -2500 reputation, which says a lot.

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pizza_rolls 2 points 3 years ago

I think we should remove the reputation system and just make it easier to ban people who are shitting up our instance. People are out here downvoting for the most mundane things and turning it back into reddit 2.0 where everyone is uppity for no reason.

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fishos 1 point 3 years ago

I would prefer a system akin to old forums. Posts are worth X experience points(or whatever you want to call it) based on word count(and possibly some other factors). Maybe aside from ranking the page/comments, votes could also be used to determine how good at "promoting discussion" the post was. Upvote if the post promotes discussion(even if you disagree with it), and downvote if it's just trolling gibberish nonsense. Then use the upvote/downvote ratio to determine how much of the experience points are gained or lost from the person's reputation.

So for example, say a certain post was worth 100 exp based on its specific word count. And it has a 78% "this was good discussion" upvote ratio. The user would gain 78 exp. Longer, but well thought out and not spammy posts would in theory rise to the top while still rewarding shorter posts as well and discouraging quick spammy stuff.

This would of course require votes to return to "this does/doesn't promote quality discussion" vs "I like/agree with this".

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taigaman 5 points 3 years ago

Thank you for asking this. I was confused, and honestly, too afraid to ask. This whole thread cleared up that mess. Not saying I want to Karma farm, and I'd be perfectly happy without a reputation system, but it feels bad to be in the negatives when it does exist.

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LostCause 2 points 3 years ago

You can also boost your own comments if the negative bothers you. It‘s pretty meaningless anyway as afaik it‘s not used like in Reddit to lock people out or anything.

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xc2215x 2 points 3 years ago

It is kind of odd.

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AnonTwo 1 point 3 years ago

It's based on boosts, and not upvotes

So a lot of people (especially those not creating threads and just commenting) are in the negatives at the moment, or just really low.

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Xeelee 1 point 3 years ago

It doesn't. I'm sure it'll get fixed eventually.

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