I credit the fediverse, specifically Mastodon with ahem "humanizing" furries for me. I never had any exposure to them outside of memes and jokes before that. Now they are just members of another harmless subculture to me. Furries (and trans peeps!) also seem to be overrepresented in the fediverse and infosec communities, so respect and thanks to all the rad furries out there!
electric_nan 14 points 3 years ago
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clearleaf 4 points 3 years ago
In my experience people like on the left tend to be upper class so that's probably why they're marketed to. There's a lot of jokes about furries all being engineers and aircraft technicians and stuff but there's not really enough rich ones to be worth marketing to for massive corporations. No offense but that kind of "gay pride" stuff is bougie as fuck these days. I feel alienated by it but not by the furry fandom despite not being a furry.
general_kitten 3 points 3 years ago
fursuits apparently are extremely expensive so i guess only people with high enough salaries can own them, that might explain the stereotype
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archonet -6 points 3 years ago
the unfortunate reality is that animal fuckers are becoming more and more commonly accepted on the internet as a whole -- and expressing any opinion to the contrary is likely to get angry dogfuckers ranting and raving in your inbox.
tis a disturbing future we live in.
SteveXVII 2 points 3 years ago
Furries and animal-fuckers are different groups. And if you're lumping them together, you're bound to get criticized for it.
FYI: furries are people with an interest/love for anthropomorphic animals.
Hereforpron2 -9 points 3 years ago
I've had to block so many furry, hentai, and furry hentai communities on here... What is it about Lemmy that brought so many users who get off to dog dicks?
Kovukono 11 points 3 years ago
Ooh, I actually know this, and it's kinda hilarious. Lemmy tends to trend more techy, with a lot of emphasis on Linux communities. Furries are generalized as being stereotypically prevalent in IT, with a general joke of a plane crash full of furries could cripple an IT sector. Over 50% of furries are in STEM fields, with 28% of those surveyed in IT, 12% in science, and 12% in engineering (these numbers are from 2011, and a later survey was done in 2019, but I haven't been able to find results).
Additionally, Lemmy tends to lean left politically, with a lot of emphasis on communities that are for trans rights, such as servers like blahaj.zone. Furries lean very much left politically socially, though they tend to skew right economically (numbers from 2013).
In short, furries are here because Lemmy matches their interests beyond the furry community. Aside from their love of dog dicks, you'd likely get along pretty well with them.
Hereforpron2 -7 points 3 years ago
I'd probably have as hard a time getting over the dog-dick thing as they seem to lol. If animal sex (simulated or otherwise) is a core part of someone's personality, I don't think we're gonna get along, and I'm far from upset about that. I also don't think it's doing any good for LGBTQ+ acceptance to be associated with.
yote_zip 4 points 3 years ago
LGBTQ+ acceptance isn't about throwing specific people under the bus in order to win the favor of bigots. That's what the right-wing gays are doing when they speak out against trans people, as if being gay is fine but being trans is a bridge too far. As for kinkshaming just read up on anything regarding keeping kink out of pride. I don't share everyone else's kinks either but I fully support their right to have them.
Kovukono 3 points 3 years ago
While a slight-to-decent majority of furries appear to be in the LGBTQ+ community (at least according to Wikipedia), I'd hope that no one would say "Because you're accepting of the LGBTQ+ community, even if you're straight and don't identify as part of that community, you must be part of the furry community." Just because there's LGBTQ+ people into odd kinks like bondage, humiliation, sounding, etc., there's no reason you would have to be interested in those things to be supportive of the LGBTQ+ community. Same thing with furries.
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Jaeger 11 points 3 years ago
Pretty much. Generally speaking furries are fans of anthropomorphic characters, which inherently require a human component.
A lot of the hate the furry fandom gets is carryover from it being a very LGBT positive space in the early days of the internet, when that was a significantly less popular opinion to have. This led to a lot of false rumors (and one really inaccurate csi episode) getting spread around.
This video does a decent dive into the history of the whole thing. Basically it started from larger animation studios wanting to censor artists, leading to a bunch of artists getting together and putting all their weird stuff in one place.
yote_zip 17 points 3 years ago
The anti-furry dogwhistle is overwhelmingly used for anti-LGBTQ+ sentiments. The furry community is almost fully LGBTQ+ (80%+), and the idea that the LGBTQ+ community would be at odds with them shows that you are really misunderstanding the point of the rainbow flag. As the OP meme notes, furries have part of the LGBTQ+ community for a very long time and if you think this is some new phenomenon I really wonder what you're doing trying to speak for us.
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wandermind -1 points 3 years ago
Ignoring everything else I could say about your comment: What's wrong with RPing non-consensual situations?
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MystikIncarnate 7 points 3 years ago
They may not be part of your LGBTQ+ community, but there's a large percentage of furries that are LGBTQ+, so they're mostly a part of the same overall communities, with, or without their fursuit on.
Honestly, I didn't think there would be this much judgement from members of a community that should know how important inclusion is.
It's fine to not be a furry, it's fine to not want anything to do with furries. This is in the same way that has been yelled at the cisnormatives for a long time. It's okay to be straight, gay, lesbian, queer, trans, bi, (etc), and it's only to not be a part of that as well. Straight people are supporters of LGBTQ+ rights and freedoms, while not being LGBTQ+. I would think that someone who had to fight and struggle with being accepted by society, and in many ways is still shunned and ostracised by some communities, would understand that different isn't bad, and you can support people in their freedom to express themselves, without feeling the need to express yourself in the same manner. That different isn't bad, it's just different.
I'm disappointed right now. Holy heck.
I'm not a furry, and I have no sexual interest in anything that looks like an animal or anthropomorphic animal looking things either, but if that's what they like and enjoy, then fine. As long as they're not going out and engaging in actual bestiality, who cares? (They're not, btw)
Your judgmentalism is showing.
tygerprints -3 points 3 years ago
I've noticed the same thing. There are so many furries who are actually gay men (most of whom claim to be bisexual) - I've seen them actually having sex with other guys in costume to the point of orgasm(!) - who has to clean those things. Anyway - I like the costumes, I like the people involved, and at least they are out there and being proud.
BUT - and this is my own big BUTT showing - I do honestly think there's something to the idea of these people costuming themselves in a way to hide their real orientation from themselves and others. I've just seen so much of these guys obvious attraction to each other but unwillingness to openly say they are gay without any costume, disguise, or other armor on.
Maybe furry is part of a stage in acceptance of themselves, and I'm all OK with it, I just think it's kinda obvious that it's a masquerade about their real sexual feelings in certain ways. (MY thoughts only - feel free to lob horse apples if you disagree). Not that there's anything wrong with it!
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There's a lot of anti-furry sentiment here comparing it to beastiality and zoophilia which is nothing new, but it's too early in the morning for this.
To all those arguing this: You do not understand what being a furry is.
The furry community is firmly against fucking real animals as they obviously cannot consent. Any sex that happens in the community is among consenting adults. It isn't a "stepping stone" to fucking animals either. The community has worked hard to expel zoophiles (people actually fucking animals) and Nazis (different tangent but also interesting).
The sensory experience of fur (or scales or feathers) is nice, and wondering what having a tail or multiple appendages would be like is fun, but some people have a problem with it when adults want to enjoy that with other adults.
This video is the best explanation I've encountered on the topic and has way more information than what I can put in a comment. NSFW and there's a lot of sex jokes strung throughout.
https://youtu.be/ws9g3igw51s?si=pcILDYodPTi-0ZuU
TL; DW: There is a common experience of being dehumanized which the LGBT+ community experiences as well as those who are autistic which is one of many reasons both groups are drawn to the community. Animal comparisons are a good way of contextualizing how you would like to be interacted with. Furry is nothing new, and we have plenty of depictions of gods seducing people as animals because of the juxtaposition of power dynamics, divinity, humanity, masc, and fem.
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