Big fan of Air. The owner is a cool guy, they support privacy orgs, and the VPN itself is great.
Big fan of Air. The owner is a cool guy, they support privacy orgs, and the VPN itself is great.
Yep, they're my main VPN as well. Not super good at avoiding being caught by VPN blockers though, I have proton for just sites that scream if you're trying to use a VPN.
Personally I don't trust Proton. I know I'm paranoid, but can't be too sure about anything these days. To my knowledge MV and IVPN are the only ones with a nice privacy reputation. Shame they are cutting port forwarding
Proton only started logging his IP after they were legally forced to do so, just like any other law abiding company would have to do.
Proton offers an onion site of Protonmail which the activist should have been using since he allegedly committed
theft and property damage, crimes - the latter two - that enable surveillance
this is a case of user error and bad opsec, not a company bending over backwards to share their users information. If you're going to do things that are likely going to get you arrested, no matter how noble the cause, make sure you have excellent OpSec
and iirc Proton took the Swiss government to court after that and won a case reclassifying email legally so that they can't be forced to disclose IPs like that again in the future
Can’t they just log your account? You have to have an account with Proton to use their VPN. They can absolutely log your activity such as logging in, when you connected/disconnected, to which servers, and, more importantly, where from exactly (your original IP address)
It's refreshing being on Lemmy and being able to see a good discussion on vps with (unlike reddit) no bot comment spam and no users engaging in paid shilling.
ProtonVPN
Personally I don't trust Proton. I know I’m paranoid, but can’t be too sure about anything these days. To my knowledge MV and IVPN are the only ones with a nice privacy reputation. Shame they are cutting port forwarding
I think it's worth reading Proton's response on this and also worth noting Proton recently won Swiss court ruling (as in they paid for the lawyers and brought the case up et al.) that should help make it so proton isn't legally obligated by the Swiss government to do such things again.
You can also avoid what happened here by using the TOR endpoint Proton provides to login to their services.
You keep ports until September (forgot the date). I would recommend looking at Blackhat/scene VPNs if you want port-forwarding and a low chance of them disappearing.
I bought 2 years from them a while ago but was required to:
Good product though. Horrible SOCKS5 proxies though, almost 90% downtime. Not to foremention the horrible support from the admins - the normal support was amazing though.
Really up to you if you want the compromises, though there are better VPNs for privacy out there.
Privacy is so atrocious that their damn private key was compromised
But they fixed the issue, and documented on why it happened and how it got fixed on their blog. Pretty transparent to me.
Yeah, they fixed things and owned up to it, best you can do when you fuck things up: https://blog.windscribe.com/.... I feel like people give them too much shit for this, just like with that Proton climate activist case
Agreed. Though Proton was barely affected since everyone started to dickride them for all their other services. Unfair treatment, but that's what the privacy community does nowadays 🤷
Is AirVPN out of the question? They’ve still got port forwarding
Would you consider server seizures by LE with no data found to be valid proof of no logging? If so there are a couple VPNs I know which you would probably like.
Sure, shoot. I’ll research anything. Just that everything so far has either been a privacy disaster or “oh don’t worry they only leak your entire data when you break the law! it’s your bad opsec!”
Some lesser known ones :
All of them have port-forwarding, only Perfect-privacy is missing wireguard, which is a downside if you have 1gbit fibre. Lmk if you got questions!
Some people here are saying i2p may be the future https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/259433 Sounds like Qbittorrent is planning to provide i2p support too. So hopefully port forwarding won't matter as much for future releases.
The main issue with I have with how the current i2p implementation works is that it essentially creates a walled garden in the torrent network, as i2p users can't seed out to non-i2p users, they can only leech from them. I feel like that would needlessly split the network, which relies on having as many people as possible seeding. Frankly I don't know if its even possible to work around that, but I'll need to see how it plays out. Also, there needs to be at least one person with a port forwarded on any given torrent. utp only peers cannot seed independently, from my understanding.
I think i2p or something similar where people can run a router and provide bandwidth to the network and help hide what other users are downloading (which is how i2p works but its not super fast sadly)
Hi, I looked into this and from what I can gather, ProtonVPN gives out temporary ports for port forwarding. I'm not 100% how long these ports are leased for, but as long as you run a script like this to move your torrent client's port around to match ProtonVPN's, I can see how this would work. It's not perfect, but it's workable. I wonder if Mullvad will implement something like this to achieve parity.
Honestly i don't really use port forwarding at all but it sucks its being removed, we need more privacy in this day and age.
Mullvad is phasing out port forwarding? Damn.
I moved from mullvad to ivpn and now again on the lookout. I guess i2p is “the future” but right now I’m not sure how that works with private trackers.
Whilst you can still torrent without port forwarding I don’t think seeding works right?
There are other alternatives, mainly Blackhat/scene VPNs which have server raids multiple times because of very illegal shit being done by the users, which I doubt will remove port-forwarding simply because of DMCA lol...
Seeding still works without port forwarding but uploading your owns torrents is not possible
You also can't be the only seeder on a torrent for the same reason.
That's not entirely true- you can upload your own, but you can only seed to users that do have port forwarding. On many trackers, that initial seed is all going to seed boxes with an autograb script enabled anyway, and those do have port forwarding.
Without port forwarding your tracker will show you as disconnected and not give you credit.
IVPN, takes Monero and still has port forwarding.
IVPN is actually removing port forwarding: https://www.ivpn.net/...
Ah ok. They hinted that they might remove it at Monerokon but I wasn't sure if it was publicly announced yet 😂
I have bad news for tou: https://www.ivpn.net/...
OVPN still seems to support port forwarding, though it's worth pointing out they were recently acquired by Pango.
They are swedish
they are owned by a umbrella company which owns multiple big name VPN providers so I wouldnt really trust them anymore https://embed.kumu.io/...
Which also used to spread adware through their applications (search Cross Rider I believe, now names Kape)
Wait why is nordvpn a privacy nightmare?
PIA was bought by a "reformed" adware spreading company. Wouldn't recommend for privacy as the OP is looking for.
thanks for using Leebra!
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AirVPN! Been a customer for 7-8 years.
Edit: I see AirVPN was mentioned by op in its post. Regarding it being “not private enough” and reports of users receiving DMCA notices: I highly doubt these reports are correct, and even it they were, I don’t think it would be the fault of AirVPN. From a technical perspective AirVPN is excellent. They offer every feature you can imagine and allow you to work with native WireGuard, OpenVPN or their own client.
But this technical freedom might lead to some misconfigurations out there, like DNS leaking due to not enforcing changes to resolv.conf etc. if you’re not that technical, use their official client.
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