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Confuzzeled 8 points 3 years ago

It's ridiculous that I can get medical cannabis and yet they still drag their heels on recreational. Half of America has legalised already and our governments attitude is stuck 50 years in the past and Starmer shows no interest in any progressive policies.

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Senseibu 6 points 3 years ago

I really thought labour would be progressive here too, to show a clear difference between them and the Conservative Party.

I don’t get it. Not evening opening a debate just shows total close-mindedness from the top of the party.

If they want those conservatives vote taken in 2019, my opinion is those voters would like to see progression on the issue too as they were lower income areas.

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Confuzzeled 7 points 3 years ago

Starmer has walked back any progressive policies he may have had due to a fear of upsetting the right wing voters. What's the point of a Labour party if the aren't going to represent the working class? It just feels so hopeless sometimes, who do you vote for when nobody represents your views?

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fcuks 5 points 3 years ago

yeah my 50pence is this is it also, they're trying to pull in socially conserative voters for the next election and this may be too progressive for them

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Blake 4 points 3 years ago

I don’t think that’s it, really - the more obvious answer is that Starmer himself is right wing. I mean he was the head of the CPS, let’s be real. Starmer is a conservative.

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emerty 2 points 3 years ago

Let's be real, the only way to gain power in the UK is to be centrist.

I remember my mum getting all excited about Neil Kinnock and how he was going to win, only to see him get kiboshed by the media.

Corbyn was a rinse repeat.

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HMJ87 3 points 3 years ago

A lot of the working class are very socially right wing (as demonstrated by the "red wall" voting Tory over Brexit), and Labour are trying to win them back by abandoning the left of the party in favour of being "less right wing than the Tories". Decriminalising drugs would turn off a lot of those voters so it's never going to happen. This country's voter base is still largely conservative, at least on social issues, and that isn't going to change overnight. The working class are more likely to be economically left wing (traditional labour trade unionist), but Labour has largely abandoned that as well in favour of being "pro-business".

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Lubricate7931 4 points 3 years ago

I'm always in 2 minds on this. The legal status of drugs in the uk has little effect on the availability as an end user. With legalisation comes more testing in work place and elsewhere. So it'd be legal but more likely heavily policed through insurance and benefits. This kind of testing is whats killed my use not any legal aspect

With our socially conservative main parties scared to lose votes, especially as labour aim for for first term. Id be suprised if much changed

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Senseibu 2 points 3 years ago

That’s a fair point and something I agree with, it didn’t occur to me that it would then mean higher insurances etc

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LevelUp 3 points 3 years ago

I agree with you. I've tried the legal path and it's really expensive, the quality isn't the best and it's full of red tape. The legacy market has it's own problems too of course. I'm really in favour of grow your own, local co-ops or clubs, stuff like that.

The stigma is still huge so unfortunately I don't see things chnaging yet. If it does it will be a big surprise.

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