Tesla Has The Highest Accident Rate Of Any Auto Brand

3 years ago by Ghostalmedia to c/technology

Tesla drivers had 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers, a study found. Tesla recently recalled 2 million vehicles over problems with its autonomous driving functionality.
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Salad_Fries 94 points 3 years ago

I know its super pedantic, but the word “accident” really grinds my gears in this context.

The proper terminology is “crash”.. accident infers that there is no fault or misconduct.

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Tatters 26 points 3 years ago

The official UK Police term is Road Traffic Collision, or RTC, which does not imply fault or otherwise.

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BritishDuffer 11 points 3 years ago

What made you want to become a policeman-officer?

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EvacuateSoul 22 points 3 years ago

Trucking companies have switched the terms in the same way, since "accident" lightens responsibility. Even a not-at-fault crash could have been preventable often times, which is what they try to emphasize.

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Mongostein 4 points 3 years ago

One of the many ways trucking companies avoid liability by putting all responsibility for fuck-ups on the driver.

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Raiderkev 19 points 3 years ago path: 0 6131635 6132863, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 3
mdd 8 points 3 years ago

This scene immediately popped into my head.

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Oderus 15 points 3 years ago

You can intentionally crash into someone which would not be an accident but if you crash into someone not on purpose, then it's an accident.

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asret 11 points 3 years ago

Exactly, so the use of "crash" would generally be far better for these sorts of articles.

"Accident" starts addressing intentions or expectations.

We could just add easily refer to them as "vehicular violence" but then we'd end up distorting things in another direction.

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Pipoca 0 points 3 years ago

It doesn't have to be on purpose. Accident implies that something was just a freak occurrence beyond anyone's control. You can't fix accidents. You can fix crashes.

If you're driving negligently - drunk driving, not paying attention, etc then it's not an accident.

If it's due to bad road design, then it's not an accident.

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NENathaniel 11 points 3 years ago

Wouldn't an accident still involve "fault"

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Pipoca 1 point 3 years ago

Colloquially, accidents are random events without intention or fault.

That's why there's a push to use neutral terms like "crash" that don't imply that the "accident" was just a random accidental mistake.

And fault is often a bit of a misnomer. Many crashes are the result of bad design, but the courts would never say "this pedestrian fatality here is 40% the fault of whichever insane engineer put the library parking lot across a 4-lane road from the library but refused to put a crosswalk there or implement any sort of traffic calming because that would inconvenience drivers".

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Chee_Koala 1 point 3 years ago

While many accidents do involve fault, there are scenarios where an accident can occur without anyone being legally at fault (mechanical failure, natural disasters). It does excludes malicious intent though. in the specific context of commercial motor vehicle regulations in the US, the term "accident" is defined in the Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) under 49 CFR § 390.5

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aeharding 5 points 3 years ago path: 0 6131635 6133942, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
hglman 2 points 3 years ago

Car caused trauma

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