Bullet point summary of the full paper

• "The consumption of foods prepared at high temperatures has been associated with numerous health risks."

• In previous studies, high heat has specifically been examined with its ability to transform harmless molecules into small-molecule metabolites that can interact with DNA such as "polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) and heterocyclic amines (HCAs)... aldehydes, acrylamide, and N-nitroso compounds"

• When such species interact with DNA, "mutations when replication specificity is altered by modified nucleobases and in genotoxicity and chromosomal rearrangements when strand breaks occur during repair"

• The amount of DNA seems to be reflective of how many of these small metabolites are formed. For example, in animal products, often associated with health concerns, we see high amounts of DNA content (cows = 5.3-19.5g/kg, pigs = 6.9 - 21.2g/kg). But in plants, we see a far lower amounts with grains, starches, fruits, and legumes the lowest (wheat = 0.6g/kg, lentils = 0.7-0.8g/kg, potatoes = 1g/kg, avocado = 0.6g/kg), and vegetables being higher (spinach = 2.6g/kg, cauliflower = 2.8g/kg, broccoli = 5.1g/kg)

• This study notes that the link between small-molecule agents and health concerns are not yet proven. They primarily focused on examining connection between individual parts of said DNA hypothesis.

• They note that if their findings continue to be held up as true, frying/grilling/smoking are probably the worst, roasting being similarly bad, and boiling being the least harmful. With raw and non-heat processed foods being the best.

• The authors note they are not yet clear on why many plant foods seem to have protective effects in other studies for cancer, but they do write "starch may contribute to some protection against reactive oxygen species" which is common in many unprocessed plant foods like legumes and tubers.

TL;DR: Food products still contain DNA from their sources. When consumed, the DNA must be broken down and utilized by our digestive system. When exposed to high heat, DNA from foods may break down into harmful molecules. When we consume said DNA in our food, it can be harmful to our existing DNA causing deleterious mutations. Some foods have less DNA content and speculated protective compounds such as starch which may prevent some of damage to us including many plant foods, but specifically tubers, legumes, fruits, vegetables, and grains. The study reinforces previous studies showing diets high in said protective foods and low in animal products may result in positive health impacts including lower rates of cancer.

Relevant: https://github.com/mormaer/Mlem/issues/292

Seems the team got wind of it recently

Sounds like a solid choice! Maybe not for the cancer risk alone, since that is tough to prove definitively, but for the ethical and environmental concerns for sure. I used to eat meat 2+ times a day, but one day like 5 years ago I just stopped. Seems too easy with all the options available to us

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Has a simple interface, supports password sharing between self hosted servers via standardized KeePass libraries, and has TOTP which eliminates the need for a second app. I use keepassXC on Fedora and it syncs wonderfully. Took a second to setup, but it’s the best password experience I’ve had thus far.

I think what they meant by "being a vegetarian is healthier" is from the point of conclusion from this study referencing lower cancer (and all cause-mortality in referenced analysis) rates for plant based vs animal containing diets. I agree it's a tough claim to make since a vegetarian diet could literally just be oreos for 3 meals a day, but if I had to guess what they meant, it's probably what I mentioned.

Also, the linked summary doesn't provide too much info. They talked about more than just the listed plant/animal foods and tried to speculate on why they got their results. I summarize those points here

More info from actual study here

Probably a good point to mention that alcohol in moderation likely doesn’t have the protective effects we once thought as many of the studies did not properly account for extraneous variables.

Do what you want with your own body, but know antioxidants are far more abundant in regularly old fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and legumes. With the additional benefits of eating said foods.

I hope more studies appear in the future regarding how much sucrolose-6-acetate is created in our gut, how different factors impact this (existing gut microbiome, other food sources ingested), and how much sucrolose would need to be consumed for toxicity levels to be reached.

I generally stick to plain sucrose or other products like syrups or agave if I am going to add some sugar to dishes, but I recognize many diabetics and people with pre-diabetes are still wanting something sweet, but also reasonably cheap.

I am also interested to see if the NIH, FDA, and other health organizations will change their public stances on sucrolose. They've already listed it as potentially harmful given gut microbiome interactions, but I haven't yet seen a public stance on their carcinogenic effects.

Disclaimer for anyone who was TL;DR the article: the study points to a secondary product called sucrolose-6-acetate that causes the problems listed in linked article. Companies that produce Splenda claim levels in their product are negligible and that it isn't dangerous, while the study begs to differ.

Long comments are good comments in my opinion lol.

If you're looking for a chicken substitute that holds up, look no further than Sweet Earth's "Chik'n" strips. I tried Morningstar's and I didn't find it to be the right texture. Sweet earth somehow figured out the perfect non-breaded chicken strip. I'd use that jazz in anything if I wasn't trying to conserve my budget.

Also, idk if you've tried it yet, but Gardein makes a great "chick'n" noodle soup for lazy days.

I wish the seafood substitutes were there. The breaded stuff like fish and chips are great and there are a few brands of tuna substitutes I like, but I haven't seen a shrimp or salmon substitute. For sushi or smoked salmon bits, sure, there are lots of things that have a similar taste, but I haven't found anything like something you'd get in a restaurant. If you like to cook, sauce stach always comes through with surprisingly good tasting recipes.

Tofu (bean product tbf) -> fried or baked for most dishes, crumbled and refrigerated with mayo, dijon, and black salt for salads

Red kidney beans -> simmered along with the rest of the ingredients in chili

Garbanzo Beans/Chickpeas -> blended for hummus, same as kidney beans, but for curries and other South Asian dishes

Hope it does well. I had issues with some of the ways they presented medical information in the first one (primarily their illustration on blood triglyceride levels), but I understand you have to rely on hyperbole and bold claims when you’re reaching a broad audience. Nuance is probably left for longer form discussion and talks with practicing physicians.

Look forward to seeing it. Especially with the big names that latched on.

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Hello, I study nutrition and would love to share some light on recommendations for a healthy diet.

First as a disclaimer, I do not encourage people to look for specific micronutrients in their foods unless they find joy in doing so. Food and diet anxiety are huge issues and have created a dangerous diet culture which can cause people to quit diets or splurge on expensive supplements.

A Balanced Diet (easy mode)

My general recommendation for people looking to go vegan is to consume 5+ servings of fruits and vegetables every day, several (1-4) servings of whole grains and legumes, some omega-3 rich oil or seed (1-3 tbsp), and if you want more calories, throw in a fatty nut or nut butter like peanuts/peanut bytter. Here's an example:

Serving of legumes: ~1/5 block of tofu, 1/2 cup side of green peas, 1/2 cup of navy beans in a stew/chili

Serving of whole grains: 1 slice of 100% whole grain bread, ~60g of whole wheat pasta, 1/2 cup of rolled/steal cut oats

Serving of fruit: 1 orange/apple/banana, 1/2 cup of berries, 3-5 strawberries,

Serving of vegetables: 1 carrot (5-6 baby carrots), 1/2 cup of broccoli, 1/2 cup of spinach or other leafy greens (e.g., 1-2 outer leaves of a green lettuce head)

Serving of seed/oil: 1/4 cup of sunflower seeds, 2 tbsp of flax meal, 2 tbsp of hemp seeds, 1-2 tbsp of canola oil

If you do that every day with the addition of daily fortified foods like 1.5 - 2.5 cups of soy, almond, or milk, you'll be perfectly suited to a sustainable healthy diet.

However, I know many people have trouble completing these goals every day since we are suited to processed diets, so just shoot to hit most of these goals and then throw a multivitamin in which might target

Targets

Generally, I see vegans miss out on a few nutrients as a whole such as Vit. D, B12, Omega 3s, and Zinc. However, nutritional deficiencies are usually found to be specific to the person. For example, if you eat beans regularly as a part of your diet, zinc is probably not an issue. If you cook with canola oil and eat flax meal with food every day, omega 3s are not a concern.

For that, this resource is very helpful! For those that worry about inadequacies, these individuals can find options from your list and add them to their diet as they try them out in recipes.

Resources

1. This post: sources of various vitamins, minerals, lipids, etc
2. NIH Nutrient Fact Sheet: in depth information for physicians and normal people alike
3. Cronometer: track every nutrient imaginable

I almost stopped using cronometer after a few months. Found out I was just using the CRDB labels that only required the testing for a few specific nutrients thus making me think I wasn't doing enough. After switching to the whole foods with 70-80 nutrients listed from the NCCDB, I felt so much better. I wish cronometer advertised that as something to remember.

I imagine other platforms like kbin would become popular in place of Lemmy. We’d likely see a similar dip and normalization from Reddit’s user base.

The world would probably look about the same as it is now. I like using Lemmy, but the absence of forum isn’t the end of the world I suppose

Me too, Bill, me too

That is some damn great food diversity if I've ever seen it

Given that heat-induced deamination producing dU in isolated DNA continues to proceed over extended times (Figure 2b), (18) hours of roasting or smoking could potentially result in higher levels of damage, although this was not tested here. For dU in briefly roasted beef, the amounts found here correspond to milligram quantities in a serving of cooked meat, as much as 1000 times greater than concentrations of HCA or PAH molecules in cooked meats

Summary here

Would recommend trying some of the new plant-based meat products while you're at it. Stuff from Impossible and Beyond Foods are pretty much taste-alikes for burgers. Morningstar has the same with appetizer items like chicken nuggets. Gardein is cheaper and usually marketed as healthy (lower saturated fat and sodium), but isn't as good for said healthy reasons. I still buy that because of the low cost though. Places like Aldi have their own products that are the cheapest of them all and pretty decent tasting ngl.

Really neat perspective. I've thought that way previously as a pretty hard-line stance, and I think I incorporate it into the way I communicate to people about veganism. However, after hearing some of the critiques of Singer's ethics, I find the bullet biting to be okay for me lol. Mostly because the situations are usually absurd and I have trouble thinking deontologically and personally love pragmatic approaches

Fantastic channel. I love that he ends each video with practical things you can do. I wish he had more videos on individual impact which could allow people with environmentalist mindsets to have concrete goals to focus upon, but I understand he is tackling the large polluters and general mindsets.

Definitely recommend binging his content.