The explicit AI-created images of Taylor Swift flooding the internet highlight a major problem with generative AI

3 years ago by return2ozma to c/technology

boomer478 54 points 3 years ago

People have been creating and posting realistic looking fake celebrity nudes for quite literally decades now, but now they're using AI and its suddenly a problem?

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kromem 41 points 3 years ago

I'm not sure if you noticed, but people who write for a living have suddenly started writing quite a lot about how technology that can write and generate media are bad.

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hazeebabee 9 points 3 years ago

Which is so silly, because AI writing still needs a human editor. I write for a living and there tons of work that involves using AI as a tool to increase productivity rather than to replace writers completely... like photoshop didnt put photographers out of business it just changed the work flow.

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H_Interlinked 12 points 3 years ago

I work in a clinical setting where some Doctors are trying an AI program for generating their clinical notes out of the casual conversation between them and the patient. It's way off its mark for what we demand in quality. It requires significant editing from the healthcare provider, and if the note is very robust it quickly becomes more of a chore than modern voice transcription. Our review is not great so far.

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kromem 6 points 3 years ago

That's a terrible way to be using a LLM for generating clinical notes.

Sounds more like trying to use a screwdriver to hammer in screws than an issue with the screwdriver itself.

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Dukeofdummies 35 points 3 years ago

It's because a person can crank out a deep fake in 3 hours, and a crappy one in one. It never cropped up because... well lets be real it was a couple of weirdos that were doing it, unless it bubbles up from the dark corners of the internet you risk the Streisand effect by bringing attention to it.

AI can crank out 40 in a minute. 7200 in three hours. That's an entirely different beast. The sheer mass and volume ramps up the odds of any image bubbling up from the dark corners of the web falling into the limelight and now this problem that wasn't big enough to merit thought is rearing up it's ugly head right in front of us.

You can generate unique pictures of Taylor Swift faster than even Taylor swift can generate pictures of Taylor Swift. Within one hour of Taylor swift being seen with a man (and you have enough images of the man) you can create a dozen images of her on a date with that man and attempt to sell them to paparazzi.

The problem is volume. Just like how email made everyone connected and allowed the Nigerian Prince scandal to occur.

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echo64 22 points 3 years ago

It's also not just limited to Taylor swift.

People don't care now because people don't thin famous people should have any right to dignity, but their minds are gonna change really quickly when it's their sister, mother or daughter.

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macattack 7 points 3 years ago

I don't think many have gone viral on social media before or took less than 5 minutes to create. My uneducated guess is that previously this stuff would be in some niche forum in the recesses of the internet

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gian 3 points 3 years ago

My uneducated guess is that previously this stuff would be in some niche forum in the recesses of the internet

Not really. Back at the time there were public usenet groups specifically dedicated to the [hot actress of the day] fake porn.

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finthechat 4 points 3 years ago

I can see why people are upset, I can agree that distribution of these images can be an issue, but this has the same energy of "I am mad that a certain picture of me is on the internet, I demand that they take it down." Sorry, that's not going to happen any time soon.

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echo64 2 points 3 years ago

It's now massively accessible and realistic. Yes, it's a problem.

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Brunbrun6766 13 points 3 years ago

Google.com/images

Damn look at that, been accessible for decades

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echo64 2 points 3 years ago

The tools are accessible. I wish this place wasn't full of weirdo ai tech bros sometimes.

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BruceTwarzen 4 points 3 years ago

Because downloading gimp is really hard.

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magnusrufus 2 points 3 years ago

You could be honest and acknowledge that there is a massive difference in time investment and skill required between the old way of creating fake porn of unconsenting people and the new way.

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Stalinwolf 20 points 3 years ago

I was a part of a Blursed AI group on Facebook that had been a lot of fun, but suddenly this week it first shifted to Taylor Swift porn, and then to alt-right MAGA shit very quickly. The comments on the Trump and MAGA related images were very on-board with it too. The change was so abrupt that I got the fuck out of there. Seemed orchestrated.

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jballs 19 points 3 years ago path: 0 7014652, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 1
M137 2 points 3 years ago

Hahaha, that's glorious!

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kamenlady 13 points 3 years ago

Platforms, including X, where the images were first shared

They also now have a dedicated platform at their disposal. Expect more trash to be posted first on X in the future.

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gian 1 point 3 years ago

Like back at the time they had Usenet groups, rotten.com and a long list of other sites to post fake porn and other discutible content.

Not that I am saying that is something right, just that is nothing new.

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dditty 10 points 3 years ago path: 0 7013868, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
Treczoks 8 points 3 years ago

She probably has the money to sue each and every poster into oblivion.

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aniki -5 points 3 years ago

For what? She's a public figure who does photo shoots. That's fair game buddy.

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magnusrufus 4 points 3 years ago

The fuck is wrong with you?

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aniki -3 points 3 years ago

I didn't say it's moral or good or just -- but it's not illegal. My usage of fair game is in reference to fair use which is allowed under copyright law.

Try not eating the crayons.

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magnusrufus 3 points 3 years ago

If you meant a different term with a different meaning then you should use that term and even in that case I doubt that the fair use clause would stand as a defense.

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white_shotgun 6 points 3 years ago
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GuyDudeman -2 points 3 years ago

Is it a problem though? I mean, it just makes Rule34 pics that much easier to create. And you wouldn't want to kink-shame anyone, now, would you? Why is it always heterosexual men who are kink-shamed? Why is liking naked women a bad thing?

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denshirenji 43 points 3 years ago

Alright, I'll bite. To start, this is a real person that we are talking about. A real person who did not consent. Does that mean anything to you? The fact that there is a very real person that exists in very real life that has had this happen to them?

Otherwise, I agree. Nothing wrong with the male libido.

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andrai 15 points 3 years ago

I don't need someone's consent to draw lewd fanart of them.

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admin 11 points 3 years ago

I wouldn't be so sure. Depending on where you are in the world, there dozens of laws that might interfere. Ranging from publicity rights to slander, especially if the images are photorealistic (enough).

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denshirenji 10 points 3 years ago

Do you need their permission to distribute that art?

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Grimy 10 points 3 years ago

100%, which is why the fault lies with the bad actors and the platforms that let this proliferate and not the tool itself.

Can you imagine this headline but with Photoshop instead of AI? It would be utterly silly.

This is orchestrated to create anger against AI. There's a lot of money involved in it and that money triples if consumers aren't allowed to run and distribute models on their own PC.

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BarbecueCowboy 0 points 3 years ago

This is actually super super tricky.

So, there's an exemption for 'Transformative' art, and while this is obviously pretty shady, it feels like there's a good chance this would qualify as transformative. Basically, you can't copy an existing photograph you don't own, but you can take an existing person and paint a new original picture of them.

We had a big lawsuit just last year where the Supreme Court clarified the line a bit. In that case, the art was found to be not Transformative, but they did a lot to explain why, and based on that, this would be super likely to fall on the side of 'Legally Allowed'.

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NoIWontPickaName -1 points 3 years ago

Do you?

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Candelestine 6 points 3 years ago

So, this line of thought is not going to get AI fakes permitted, it's going to get rule 34 banned.

We've been censoring sex shit for a long ass time, in case you haven't noticed. The recent trend of information freedom is not going to defeat that old religious puritanical bs, and people's wishes for privacy on top of it.

Trump would shut that shit down fast. Conservatives want people reproducing, not masturbating, and he has christian supporters to keep in line, who do not like porn.

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Ghostalmedia 2 points 3 years ago
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