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Dehydrated 74 points 3 years ago

Why are only 11 senators in support of this?

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FenrirIII 66 points 3 years ago

Because the rest are old farts with reefer madness

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Buffaloaf 31 points 3 years ago

Of the 11 that signed, the average age is 65

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BassTurd 15 points 3 years ago

I haven't checked all of their ages, but Bernie and Warren alone probably raise the average by 10 years.

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Dehydrated 4 points 3 years ago

That's a good answer

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Cornelius_Wangenheim 17 points 3 years ago
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givesomefucks 6 points 3 years ago

12 signed it, headline ignores Bernie

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Dehydrated 7 points 3 years ago

Common Bernie Sanders W

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doctorcrimson 2 points 3 years ago
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Anomaline 5 points 3 years ago

more concerned with systemic inequality and foreign genocide

...what in this prevents them from doing their job and actually forwarding a pretty objectively good bill?

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triptrapper 8 points 3 years ago

Don't you see? They must only think about one issue at a time!

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doctorcrimson -5 points 3 years ago
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doctorcrimson -4 points 3 years ago
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lolcatnip 2 points 3 years ago

Descheduling is respecting the states' choices. Legalization at the national level doesn't automatically make it legal in states.

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givesomefucks 2 points 3 years ago

or respecting state’s choice

I'd love to hear the logic of how federal descheduling takes away a states choice...

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doctorcrimson -3 points 3 years ago
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givesomefucks 4 points 3 years ago

If a state has zero laws about cannabis federal schedule makes it illegal

And many of the states that haven't legalized use the federal schedule as rational.to not legalize.

If they want them illegal, they can pass a law making them illegal. That's how it's supposed to be work.

Not states having to legalize something on a state level because the federal government claims it's one of the most dangerous drugs in the country, but won't actually enforce people flagrantly breaking the law...

Have you ever tried reading anything about this? Like, ever?

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Buffaloaf 71 points 3 years ago

Elizabeth Warren (Mass.),

John Fetterman (Pa.)

Chuck Schumer (N.Y.)

Cory Booker (N.J.)

Jeff Merkley (Ore.)

Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.)

Ron Wyden (Ore.)

John Hickenlooper (Colo.)

Peter Welch (Vt.)

Chris Van Hollen (Md.)

Alex Padilla (Calif.).

Edit: and Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

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givesomefucks 40 points 3 years ago

11 Democratic senators, along with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)

He already got left out of the headline

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Buffaloaf 16 points 3 years ago

And then I also left him out. Sorry Bernie!

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JustUseMint 8 points 3 years ago

Surprised to not see Bernie on here

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givesomefucks 25 points 3 years ago

He's there.

In a letter addressed to Attorney General Merrick Garland and DEA Administrator Anne Milgram, 11 Democratic senators, along with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), argued the administration “should deschedule marijuana altogether.”

They could have said "12 Senators..."

But went with the option that excluded Bernie since he's not a D.

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JustUseMint -4 points 3 years ago

Is this new? I always knew him as a D. When did he drop that position?

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givesomefucks 27 points 3 years ago

He's never been a D

But he's very open about how the two party system sucks and if he ran third party it would.only hurt progress

So every election he runs in the democratic primary. And abides by the results.

It's why him wanting to stay till he was eliminated and getting called a "spoiler" is such bullshit. If Bernie really wanted to, he could have nuked any Dem candidate by running third party in the general.

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Flying_Hellfish 1 point 3 years ago
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FlyingSquid 36 points 3 years ago

What's the over/under on this happening before November?

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Lifecoach5000 55 points 3 years ago

If election theater motivates this policy and makes this happen then I’m all for it. I wonder what our criminal AG in Texas thinks about all this, considering he’s trying to do the opposite in cities with lax marijuana enforcement.

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urist 31 points 3 years ago

Even if marijuana was descheduled, it would still be illegal due to Texas state law

I think most states in which it is illegal would remain illegal. Many states would probably update their laws in response to the DEA descheduling it.

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ieatpillowtags 27 points 3 years ago

Many states have laws based on the federal schedule and don’t specifically name any drugs, so there would be some immediate effects.

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wildginger 5 points 3 years ago

If the law only references federal definitions of scheduled drugs, they would need to update their laws before this went into effect or else risk letting the population have legal weed for a short window, which likely would spur voters to try and regain their newly found drug

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urist 3 points 3 years ago

Right, which is why I bothered to link Texas law, which references by name.

My own state references it by name. I suspect many/most state marijuana laws predate the formation of the DEA but I’m not a historian/lawyer.

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aesthelete 2 points 3 years ago

Many states would probably update their laws in response to the DEA descheduling it.

Importantly too, they'd have to police it using their own state resources.

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Cryophilia 7 points 3 years ago

Biden does good thing

Idiots: "He's only doing this to get votes!"

Yeah, no shit sherlock, that's the whole point of the system.

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Badeendje 9 points 3 years ago

People play the lottery too.. so

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HikingVet 5 points 3 years ago

What's the likelihood a rock from space hits Trump in his diaper?

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FlyingSquid 26 points 3 years ago

Much lower considering rescheduling marijuana is a basic government act and not a ridiculously unlikely astronomical event. Also, it would gain Biden a lot of votes.

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bobs_monkey 8 points 3 years ago

Also, it would gain Biden a lot of votes.

And send the theocracy into a rage in another dimension, one in which they wouldn't be sure why their hair is falling out

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originalucifer 3 points 3 years ago

i was under the impression the president could unilaterally just order the DEA to do it as its under the executive. is that true?

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FlyingSquid 13 points 3 years ago

As far as I understand it, the DEA has the independence to make the decision themselves and all the president can do is tell them what he wants.

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PugJesus 2 points 3 years ago

Kind of. It's murky legal waters.

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Ensign_Crab -4 points 3 years ago

Depends on if Biden thinks he can get the support he needs by just pretending to look into it some more.

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blazera 20 points 3 years ago

Thats a minority of democratic senators.

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Ensign_Crab 4 points 3 years ago

It's not like it's something the majority of Democratic senators support. Like genocide.

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conorm -107 points 3 years ago

how evil, maybe one day people will understand that marijuana, along with all the other drugs that people seem to think aren't harmful despite having existed in our societies for 100 years, are a threat to individuals, the broader society, and deserve to be completely outlawed

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Badeendje 30 points 3 years ago

Got a list of books that need burning too?

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conorm -61 points 3 years ago

the one's that teach people that harmful substances are good lol, take your shite words and come back with an argument

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AngryCommieKender 29 points 3 years ago

Prohibition of things never works. It only creates an unregulated black market, and a new type of criminal to incarcerate.

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conorm -40 points 3 years ago

less people would consume the prohibited substance because it's not something that is required to live, and it would never have been something that appeared in culture if it weren't permitted by people as it is now, the only reason that alcohol didnt work in the prohibition is because it was most people's lifestyle to drink on occasions

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NocturnalMorning 21 points 3 years ago

Wait, you're not trolling? You actually believe this? Are you a kid, or did the DARE propaganda actually work on you?

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conorm -26 points 3 years ago
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ohitsbreadley 22 points 3 years ago

But alcohol is cool right? Tobacco?

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conorm -60 points 3 years ago

alcohol is because we've had it for thousands of years and it has been known to be fine when consumed in moderation (something 99% of people can do), whereas tobacco is not something that you can just "smoke on occasion", it is exclusively smoked either by those trying it for the first time, or by those who are hooked already (not to mention the fact that alcohol is much worse than tobacco over a lifetime regardless)

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karashta 41 points 3 years ago

Then you should be fine with people smoking weed since there's evidence of its use since 10,000 BC. About 7000 years before the creation of beer by the Egyptians

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sramder 19 points 3 years ago

Nonsense! God created the earth like 2000ish years ago, and the devils lettuce only grew because of your vile sins ;-)

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Habahnow 12 points 3 years ago

weed was not made in lab in the 90s. People continue to use weed now and have for a long time and yet it causes less problems than alcohol. Never has anybody died from consuming too much marijuana.if you're arguing that alcohol is safe but weed isn't, you are not being reasonable at all. People die from over consumption of alcohol, people get in fights and arguments, with alcohol. Weed is less likely to do all those things.

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conorm -53 points 3 years ago

there is no evidence of it being consumed and not having negative benefits, unlike beer

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ultranaut 18 points 3 years ago

It turns out that even "moderate" alcohol consumption is likely very bad for you.

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conorm -43 points 3 years ago

false, i can't name a single person i know who has suffered medical issues related to alcohol consumption who i know personally

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acutfjg 20 points 3 years ago

Conorm is a troll account

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conorm -28 points 3 years ago
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forrgott 18 points 3 years ago

Well, you're completely wrong. On so many levels.

First, the majority of other people don't obsess over finding things to be afraid of. You did not base your opinion on any kind of empirical evidence. You need something to be afraid of in other to justify your perspective, and drugs are an easy target. Second, with regards to hard drugs that do present a clear danger to the user, prohibition is not effective and never will be. Addiction is a medical issue. Criminalization denies the victim any realistic chance of rehabilitation, not to mention penalizing them in specific ways that will only be likely to increase their likelihood of abusing drugs in the future.

Way to broadcast your lack of empathy for your fellow man

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conorm -45 points 3 years ago

sorry but you're wrong

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forrgott 11 points 3 years ago

You're not sorry, don't think you're fooling anyone. And given you made no attempt to counter any of my arguments, well, we all know who's obviously wrong here...sheesh.

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agent_flounder 11 points 3 years ago

And why is that?

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conorm -25 points 3 years ago

because its facts

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donuts 13 points 3 years ago

If we are going to start outlawing things that could, in some very vague and abstract way, be considered "harmful", then we would have to start banning many more things than just low-level drugs.

Cannabis is a natural plant that has existed throughout the entirety of human history. Medicine to some, religion to others, recreation and inspiration for the rest. Likewise, cannabinoids are a natural chemical compound that can be found naturally in your body and the body of most living things on Earth. Cannabis makes us feel good because it just so happens to contain the same kinds of cannabinoids that our body produces, which also make us feel good.

Cannabis might be addictive in the same way that anything pleasurable is addictive. But you don't see people dying of cannabis overdoses, nor do you see people winding up on the streets with crippling cannabis addictions that overwhelm their entire life.

It's a safe, natural, and mild high, and there has never been any good reason for it to be illegal.

edit: Oh, he's just a troll. Whatever.

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theblueredditrefugee 0 points 3 years ago

I'm all in favor of legalizing weed, and in fact I would like to abolish the prescription system in it's entirety, however, I do think that the rhetoric of pro-weed ppl treats it like it's entirely harmless, which is a dangerous sentiment.

I went through some serious symptoms from long term use. The hemispheres of my brain split into 2 different ppl, my body's sense of propioception got all fucked up, and I threw up a whole lot. Not fun. And my memory basically was shot from use, that lasted even after I stopped using. I originally started bc I couldn't afford to see a psychiatrist and I needed antidepressants, it was the closest thing I could get (abolish the fking prescription system). I had no idea that it had any long term effects, the way ppl talk you think it's only good. I mean I'm sure everyone's different, but ppl at least need a warning abt that sort of shit.

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wildginger 10 points 3 years ago

Weak bait

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conorm -26 points 3 years ago

that's a cool comment, unfortunately you took the time out of your day to respond

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wildginger 10 points 3 years ago

Your bait is weak, and it goes nowhere immediately. Look how quickly you had to stoop to edgelord verbage to keep the hook.

If youre going to troll, at least do it well. Its a fuckin embarassment to be a bad troll

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conorm -19 points 3 years ago

response no. 3, keep it coming :D

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Cadeillac 5 points 3 years ago

Took time out of my day? TOOK TIME OUT OF MY DAY!?! This is my day. This is my whole week if I deem it entertaining enough. Maybe it's because I'm all burnt out on weed, but I have nothing better to do, and replying to you is just as much fun as the expert trolling you think you are doing. I live here. I won't leave until it is burned to the ground. If you want a competition of who can last the longest with out getting bored, then I hope you have diet soda and nuggies handy.

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conorm -12 points 3 years ago

you get awfully heated up when presented with prophetical statements, are you judas?

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I_Has_A_Hat 3 points 3 years ago

Gr8 b8 m8. I r8, 8/8

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conorm -3 points 3 years ago
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bitwolf 2 points 3 years ago

As opposed to the myriad of harmful substances that are legal?

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HandBreadedTools 5 points 3 years ago

No need for whataboutism here, the original statement you're replying to is already demonstrably false. You can easily address their actual argument.

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