Anyway, it's kinda weird because I wouldn't give anyone more than first and last name... And that's what most people do, (unless we're in the rare situation where two people share the same first + last name). Why was your friend making you write his full name?

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skeletorfw 3 points 3 years ago

It was mostly to accentuate the stupidity of the whole situation, rather than directly being a bastard :)

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calavera 2 points 3 years ago

When someone asks for my surname, sometimes I give my mother's surname, sometimes my father's surname and sometimes both, depending on my mood

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pelya 8 points 3 years ago

The map is incorrect for Ukraine. It's either first name + surname, or surname + first name + father's name for the documents.

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Aux 1 point 3 years ago

Documents always start with a surname in most countries. But traditional name order in Ukraine is as pictured, because it comes from orthodox Christians church. Same as in Greece, for example. Most people today don't use father names anymore though.

The map shows a split between the Catholic and orthodox church with a few countries being an exception from the rule.

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Pancito 8 points 3 years ago

In Spain of course your parents have 2 surnames too. So your first surname is your father's first surname, his 2nd surname is dropped ( first surname of his mother ) Your second surname is the first surname of your mother, her 2nd gets dropped too.

In the end always the name line of the females get dropped.

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Hagdos 1 point 3 years ago

That's so shitty. In the Netherlands they've just started to allow 2 surnames. One of the best proposals I've heard is that you would take your father's father's name, and your mother's mother's name. That way men continue the male name line, and women continue the female name line.

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Servais 1 point 3 years ago

But then siblings don't share the same last name, which might maybe cause administrative issues down the line?

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Hagdos 2 points 3 years ago

They do! Siblings both carry their father's father's name and their mother's mother's name.

Kids of siblings will not have the same family name if the siblings have different gender, but that shouldn't be an issue

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Servais 2 points 3 years ago

Interesting! But then how do you deal with the next generation?

Boy Adam-Bernard marries Girl Copper-Dale
What are their children's last names?

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iluap 1 point 3 years ago

Historically, yes; however, they passed a law some years ago to allow for the mother's surname to be the first surname, as it happens in Portugal. Nonetheless I am not sure how popular this is.

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voodoocode 5 points 3 years ago

In Iceland occasionally the mother's name is used instead of the fathers

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olafurp 1 point 3 years ago

Most of the ones I know with mother's name in Iceland have an extremely uninvolved father.

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anguo 4 points 3 years ago

Not true for Greece, it's just First-name + Surname. It just happens that some Surnames are derived from the father's name (think "Anderson").

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Servais 1 point 3 years ago

Not true for Greece, it’s just First-name + Surname. It just happens that some Surnames are derived from the father’s name (think “Anderson”).

Thanks, I'll add this to the main post

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clmbmb 3 points 3 years ago

This is not correct for Romania: officially it's Surname + Given-name, like in Hungary.

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Servais 1 point 3 years ago

Thank you for pointing this out!

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calavera 1 point 3 years ago

What happens on blue countries when mother and father don't have the same surname? For example when they are not married or the mother didn't bother to change her surname

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NahMarcas 1 point 3 years ago

In spain and portugal is funny found a person with both surnames same

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