Alt text: an ad for Github Copilot when viewing files in a github repo
something_random_tho 40 points 3 years ago
Codeberg only allows open source licensed code. If you’re working on non-free software you could self host Codeberg’s underlying software, or SourceHut is a different but other good option too.
itslilith 10 points 3 years ago
In what circumstances would you develop non-free code and still have the need to pick a provider? Don't companies have regulations usually, so your have to use either their own hosted instance or GitHub enterprise?
CosmicTurtle 16 points 3 years ago
I use GitHub private repos for my home configuration stuff. So it's not open source since I'm the only one using it and I don't want someone else to know how to attack my network.
For certain configurations, self hosting doesn't make sense. For people like me, who would rather spend his time doing the stuff I care about instead of maintaining the stuff I don't care about, I'm okay giving Microsoft some "control" over my code for the convenience.
That said, I am thinking about moving my FOSS code off of GitHub since that is an option. I'd have to see their CI/CD pipelines though.
QuazarOmega 11 points 3 years ago
Just FYI, you can keep personal repositories for configurations and whatnot on Codeberg, check out the FAQ: https://docs.codeberg.org/...
I'd have to see their CI/CD pipelines though.
Codeberg hasn't deployed their Actions yet, but the software Gitea and Forgejo both have it, so I believe it will come some time in the near future (don't know how near though, could probably ask them over on @Codeberg).
EDIT: not completely true, actions have been ready for a while apparently, but you currently have to provide your own compute: https://docs.codeberg.org/ci/actions/
Which isn't ideal, though
In the meantime you can either use Woodpecker or use another forge like Gitea hosted (has Actions already) or Gitlab with their CI/CD
ErwinLottemann 4 points 3 years ago
i work for some people who don't host their own gitlab/gitea/whatever and use the paid tier from github or gitlab. they could not use codeberg.
itslilith 7 points 3 years ago
That's what I said, they use paid GitHub, so you as the worker don't get the choice, you need to use whatever they do
Meanwhile, if you start your own project, you need to choose a platform, but you also need to choose a license, so nothing is stopping you from using a free licence and picking Codeberg
I struggle to see many cases where someone that cares about FOSS gets to choose between GitHub, Codeberg etc, but doesn't get to choose the license of their project. As an employee you get neither, for your own projects you get both.
LarmyOfLone 1 point 3 years ago
Do they require a phone number? I tried to sign up to gitlab (just to post bug reports!) but they required a phone number (which is linked to government ID).
tengkuizdihar 2 points 3 years ago
no, email is enough
helenslunch -3 points 3 years ago path: 0 7406460 7407074 7407881 7409038, hotness: undefined, score: -3, children: 4
Deckweiss 2 points 3 years ago
But in this case, the meaning stays the same even without the /s, because the key message is factually true and the sentence still functions as a contra to the previous comment.
phillaholic 12 points 3 years ago
Someone needs to turn the hyperbole dial down on Lemmy. My feed is frequently nothing but Chicken Little's whining about trivial shit. When something truly egregious comes up, I'm not going to be able to see if in a sea of outrage.
BlessedDog 29 points 3 years ago
That text has been there for like a year?
aldalire 5 points 3 years ago
Only noticed it today. I guess years of adblocking made me ultra sensitive to ads that this one stuck out like a sore thumb.
It is quite antithetical to the principles of FOSS to rely on a platform that pushes ads. It’s unfortunate that we settled on github but it is what it is.
oo1 11 points 3 years ago
it is what it is.
Isn't the whole point of git that the repo is cloned in a million places. You can switch the remote repo really easily?
Maybe i'm wrong; I stopped using github years ago. And I don't do a lot of collaborative stuff, so I'm happy with just local git + rsync, local backups for most things. Maybe it has loads of unique features I've never noticed.
I'm sure there are ways to scrape other data off the platform too. For example:
https://docs.codeberg.org/...
I'm not saying the alternatives are necessarily better for every project. Maybe github really is best for some - but it is a choice of the project to use github. They can move if they prefer the set of features of another repository.
I'm not convinced by anyone using "critical mass" justification for choosing github, that sounds like stockholm syndrome even though you have a key to the door.
"Too lazy to switch" that's legitimate; if a wee bit dissapointing.
"Doesn't allow my special sauce proprietary licence" - well . . .
BlessedDog 1 point 3 years ago
You can always clone it and use services like gitlab or codeberg. Or host your own Gitea instance.
admiralteal 25 points 3 years ago
Enshitification doesn't really apply to GitHub because you aren't really locked into GitHub. At least you aren't so long as you consider the git part of it to be more important than the social media platform part of it. Repositories are totally interoperable with other services so the cost to jump platform is fairly low. At least so long as you aren't relying on curling stuff directly from GitHub, which everyone knows is a terrible idea and very bad practice yet happens all the time anyway.
The template and framework of this idea requires social media platforms be finger traps, with way higher costs to leave than enter.
Doctrow himself is pretty clear about this. Interoperability is the way you fight back against enshitification.
poVoq 16 points 3 years ago
Github is pretty much a social network for coders these days. If it was so easy to switch away or just not use their service, why is it that the vast majority of projects are hosted there? Git alone can't be the reason, as you rightly say it isn't any different from other git hosts. The relevant parts are the collaboration features and those are exactly the type of social media that enshittification applies to.
utopiah 8 points 3 years ago
Doctrow himself is pretty clear about this. Interoperability is the way you fight back against enshitification.
funny that's not what I just read in his FT piece "There are four constraints that prevent enshittification: competition, regulation, self-help and labour. To reverse enshittification and guard against its re-emergence, we must restore and strengthen each of these." published just yesterday.
Also FWIW we absolutely are locked into GitHub... because others are too. That's why M$ bought it in the first place, classic strategy from Redmond. I go use Gitlab, have my own Gitea instance, but in practice where do people talk on issues? Github. That's why even entities like Mozilla or KDE that have entire CI and bug system outside of Github still often have mirrors there. Because that's sadly where most of us end up being locked.
ambrosiaforest 6 points 3 years ago
i deleted my github a while ago. now i use codeberg for my public repos and just use a local git repo for dotfiles
LemmyIsFantastic 6 points 3 years ago
God forbid they tell you about the feature and you click it away. The HORROR!
poVoq 10 points 3 years ago
Yes, hence the quotation marks in "market". But Microsoft is a company large enough to have an internal "market" for different departments and there is also the outward pressure from Mirosoft's shareholders for whom the cloud business in the main driver of profits/stock value.
Edit: Maybe to make it more clear: Yes there are no advertisers as in the classical "enshittification" model, but Github is subject to similar outside pressures that do not prioritize the needs of the Github users and thus a very similar dynamic enfolds.
CliveRosfield -15 points 3 years ago
Omg text you can block with an adblocker so scary!!! ENsHITtIfIcATiOn WoOoOOO
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