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johndroid 22 points 3 years ago

I popped into one of the few subreddits I participate in and the consensus was mostly, "Who cares about the API/third-party apps, I just want my Reddit back." Whatever, they can have it.

I've been working to curate my RSS feed in the last couple of days so I never need to visit Reddit at all (outside of being directed there by a Google search result).

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wildbus8979 12 points 3 years ago

I've been working to curate my RSS feed in the last couple of days so I never need to visit Reddit at all

Ironically that would make Aaron very proud! He was one of the Reddit founder, but also a creator of RSS, and his prosecution for basically accessing an API led to his suicide...

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Lells 1 point 3 years ago

Still don't understand how "downloading too many scholarly articles" was a crime on a network with an open policy.

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Deebster 11 points 3 years ago

So many don't understand that the mods need those tools, and don't care about people who need the accessibility (although I suspect that argument is popular more for having the moral high ground).

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SmugBedBug 5 points 3 years ago

Everyday users don't understand all the work that goes into certain things sometimes. Mods really have a thankless benevolent job sometimes. We should appreciate what they do more instead of just going back to Reddit with our blinders on.

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scrubbles 1 point 3 years ago

it doesn't affect me so why should I care?

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Deebster 15 points 3 years ago

[they] didn’t do anything wrong I just didn’t agree with them

And that's why it's disabled! That's not what it's meant to be for, it's meant to be for things that don't add to the conversation. If it's factually wrong then fine - downvote, but don't do it to suppress others' opinions.

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polygon 7 points 3 years ago

Yes, I completely agree with you. Reddit could become such a nasty place, and I fully admit that I was part of the problem. It didn't feel like a problem because it was so socially accepted, even encouraged, within Reddit's own culture, but I was definitely part of the problem down voting people into oblivion for "being dumb". I never thought twice about it until the last two days. Now it feels dirty. Now I recognize I don't want to be a part of that culture any longer.

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Deebster 4 points 3 years ago

Haha, I think I just had a little rant at you there even though you were saying the same things I was saying. Bad habits... I don't think I'll be on reddit much now, hopefully enough people stay around to make this place quite active still.

It should be fine - it was busy enough before the blackout, and of course all the good apps will stop working soon, along with a bunch of essential tools for modding, etc.

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meldroc 3 points 3 years ago

My habits on Reddit were to upvote if I liked it, ignore most of it, downvotes I mostly reserved for people being toxic.

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patchymoose 1 point 3 years ago

What's sad is that back in the old days of Reddit, Reddiquette was actually a thing and people followed that rule more. In recent years, though, it feels like Reddiquette is completely dead.

Post any kind of dissenting opinion and you'll get downvoted into absolute oblivion. And I'm not just speaking about politics. You can write a well thought out comment in any sub that goes against the grain, and the culture is just totally to downvote for disagreement. I think my most downvoted comment of all time on Reddit was on r/juicing when I questioned whether carrot juice was actually effective for depression lol.

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PrinceHabib72 11 points 3 years ago

I'm not on an instance with no downvotes, as I do think they have SOME purpose (though you're right that it is usually a bit of a disagree-so-shut-up button rather than anything else), but I agree with the rest. The content here is certainly slower. On reddit, I could just refresh the main page and have dozens of new posts to interact with- here, not so much. I don't think that's a bad thing, though. I still get my mindless scrolling when I'm poopin or something like that, but I'm spending a lot less time online than I did. I'm reading more, I'm working on my novels, I'm WAY more productive at work. I used RiF exclusively on my phone, and so I decided pretty soon after the API announcement that I was done. All the protest and reddit's hilariously mismanaged response has done has cemented my resolve.

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johndroid 4 points 3 years ago

I’m spending a lot less time online than I did

Removing Sync from my phone was huge in terms of changing my habits. Without ready access to the dopamine drip, I am using my phone so much less than I did even a week ago. And as you said, I'm reading more and scrolling less.

I'll admit it's very much like getting over an addiction.

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shortwavesurfer 4 points 3 years ago

My big thing was deleting redreader from my homescreen and putting Jerboa where redreader was stopped quite a few reflex clicks. Now when i do it i expect lemmy and the redreader app is buried in my app drawer where i dont really see it

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TheDarkBanana87 7 points 3 years ago

I think its a good example of how one platform with its ecosystem/culture can shapes our habits.

in my opinion, i think the feature of up voting and down voting in reddit are created to bring something relevant to the surface, while "hiding" something that deem not important to the discussions.

While over the years, this trend and culture changes just to silences someone that doesn't share the way we see the world.

I do not like disabling the downvote button because of this, but i think it is better to disable it, if we tend to abuse it

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polygon 4 points 3 years ago

I do not like disabling the downvote button because of this, but i think it is better to disable it, if we tend to abuse it

In theory voting things up and down for relevancy is a fine idea, a good one even. But human nature is often the reason why we can't have nice things. It's just way too easy to fall into that trap. Simply having an upvote button does allow the best ideas to rise to the top, but it doesn't silence alternative opinions or encourage dog piling on someone with groupthink.

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CodingAndCoffee 6 points 3 years ago

You're right, the culture there has grown rotten.

The only reason I'll be heading back is to wipe out my history and migrate my subreddit content here.

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fennec 4 points 3 years ago

Shreddit is your best friend in that regard. I used it to wipe my account squeaky clean.

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yote_zip 6 points 3 years ago

Everyone else has already hit the culture points, but I want to touch on how smooth and snappy lemmy's web UI is. Maybe my home instance is just overpowered, but even old.reddit.com is a slug in comparison to how fast this feels. One of the most unexpected wins for me so far.

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jndo 1 point 3 years ago

Opposite for me here, all feds I've looked at are a tad slow for me and take a bit more performance. probably related to my 14 year old pc lol. old.reddit definitely worked very well on legacy tech.

Loving the community here so far though... It feels a lot more welcoming here than reddit :~)

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bdiddy 5 points 3 years ago

Same as the title for me but different than your thing. Just feels stale over there and I go into comments and it's the same ol drivel over and over again lol. This community feels fresh and I'm really enjoying exploring the various communities and chatting casually about whatever..

Feels just very corporate place over there and I dunno. Just not feeling right anymore. I'm thinking maybe it's been wrong all along I just didn't realize. Hopefully lemmy's growth continues but at a reasonable pace so that we don't devolve in the same sorta rhetoric over and over again.

I definitely feel better over here now and while there are way less comments it really seems like the engagements are far better.

Maybe that's what it is. By the time I look at a post over on reddit there are 1000s of comments and half of them just saying the same thing lol.

At least here you can contribute

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SkepticElliptic 1 point 3 years ago

Those are probably bots/account harvesting.

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LoamImprovement 2 points 3 years ago

Based on usage statistics during the blackout where 99% of the site was unusable (and bots are known to post in that 1% of low traffic subs to farm karma,) I'm honestly wondering if it's not just mostly bots at this point.

https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/

At any rate, I'm not going back. I like this community more, and the topics I care about will find a home here eventually.

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Kryostar 4 points 3 years ago

@polygon well, don't go back.
If you felt bad about the way reddit has been treating its community, then why would you go back?

Louis Rossman said something along the lines of "It's like spending the weekend away from an abusive spouse". It's not gonna do anything.

Stop using reddit. If they don't change things before the 30th, delete the data on your account.

Edit: Here's Rossman's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06rCBIKM5M

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quantum_mechanic 3 points 3 years ago

Seems many people have gone back though, since kbin is much faster than it was this time yesterday.

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BreadDog 1 point 3 years ago

Ernest might have also gotten up more servers to handle the load, noticing that cloudflare is off and we are federating again (this is a beehaw thread)

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reflex 1 point 3 years ago
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bbtai 2 points 3 years ago

Yup! I wanted to comment like “hey, don’t feel bad OP, you have 5 downvotes yourself” lol.

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IsThisLemmyOpen 1 point 3 years ago
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rimlogger 1 point 3 years ago

Why not use both? Doesn't have to be either/or. You don't have to be super ideological, use platforms when they suit your purpose. I'm sure Lemmy will grow with time.

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Monola19 1 point 3 years ago

Also haven’t been back on Reddit and don’t plan on going back. It’s hard, I’m used to being on Reddit multiple times a day and have to fight the muscle memory to click on the app. But I’m realizing I’m really not missing out on anything by not being there. I’d rather stick with this community as we continue to grow. I don’t even use third party apps—it’s just the principle. Just doesn’t feel right to go back, feels scummy to support the site knowing that it’s owner doesn’t give af about its users.

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