Yeah, but the community is filled with liberal posts anyway.
It's basically becoming like r/FlatEarth, where they make fun of flat earthers.
That post seems to be missing.
Hypersapien 66 points 3 years ago
Ralphensnitch 12 points 3 years ago
I hope we -also- get a well moderated !/anime_titties where we can discuss world news items.
Hypersapien 1 point 3 years ago
What's the deal with that subreddit? It's just what it says on the tin. Did it used to be something else?
thirdtower 27 points 3 years ago
So, mods at r/worldnews gave up moderating and became inundated with anime titties.
Then r/anime_titties became the new world news lol.
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Son_of_dad 2 points 3 years ago
When this was posted there was only the one guy, now there's like 30 and I bet it's cause of this post
7749LlamaDrama 77 points 3 years ago
"Do you suffer from an increasing lack of Copium? Tired of being asked to take personal accountability or put critical thought into your opinions? Come to Conservative where it's always the Liberals' fault!"
instamat 44 points 3 years ago
“Do you believe everything you read or hear on a podcast? Want to skip the hassle of thinking for yourself and be told how to feel about issues that don’t directly affect you? If you’re angry with nowhere to direct that rage, come to Conservative!”
CorrodedCranium 117 points 3 years ago
This post has been up two minutes and I think already has more positive votes than any other post here. That should say something
Izzent 76 points 3 years ago
The dude has to be a troll. No one has this little self-awareness. (speaking of @Optionhome)
Edit: Seems like the dude had enough and migrated to conservatives only
Hypersapien 54 points 3 years ago
Have you taken a close look at conservative America lately?
novibe 12 points 3 years ago
It depends…. But yeah, not much better… Europe is a few years behind and still going hard on neoliberalism, but the right is moving more and more to the right. And the “left” that has been winning ground is as fang-less and liberal as American Democrats. So yeah, we’re fucked as well. Only a few years behind lmao.
sensibilidades 30 points 3 years ago
They’ve already had their own reddit replacement for years
but Stormfront pre-dates reddit
PlasticExistence 18 points 3 years ago
They probably meant Voat
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Ghostalmedia 16 points 3 years ago
lol. That Colbert Report header graphic.
aubertlone 30 points 3 years ago
Please just stay on reddit on your "echo chambers" lmao
JarmenKell 24 points 3 years ago
Do I really have to endure crazies here aswell?
havocpants 20 points 3 years ago
You can block users and there's a big red "Block Community" button at the top right.
xyzinferno 2 points 3 years ago
You don't have to endure shit, maybe stop brigading other people's communities if you don't like them. You can't possibly willingly search up a community for an ideology you don't agree with, then complain about having to see them.
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spicyjimmy87762 21 points 3 years ago
We need an Andy for the MAGA one they just made as well
BeMoreCareful 13 points 3 years ago
There's a few angels sprinkles in there now lol
Rogue_General 12 points 3 years ago
Ooh where's the Maga one? Lemme grab my popcorn
Edit: found it!
WetBeardHairs 1 point 3 years ago
Easy! There is plenty of room for outright fascism and restriction of womens rights without having to even bring up the N word.
TeeTwoLee 15 points 3 years ago
Meta discussion - the existence of this post makes the wonder what moderation tools on lemmy are like? And if there's systems in place to deal with unwanted content.
- Users report posts & comments
- Communities have mods
- Instances have admins
- Instances that disagree on how moderation should be done can block the other
Edit: Changed "unmoderated communities" to "unwanted content" to clarify my intent to discuss moderation in general
shemmy 19 points 3 years ago
This community is moderated. We receive reports and will act on them if the reported content breaks the rules in the sidebar: there is no racism or bigotry, no personal insults, and u/stanleytweedle has not been spamming.
TeeTwoLee 7 points 3 years ago
Oops, didn't mean to imply that the community wasn't moderated or that this post in particular was worthy of a ban. The post was slightly negative so it made me think about moderation. Thanks for your work!
shemmy 10 points 3 years ago
I seem to have misunderstood your post too, lol.
And if there’s systems in place to deal with unmoderated communities.
This made me (incorrectly) assume the intent of your comment.
The moderation tools are pretty similar to most other platforms, as you neatly laid out.
xyzinferno 10 points 3 years ago
I almost feel sorry for the users who think brigading other people's communities is a worthwhile use of their time, let alone making political discourse any healthier.
ConTheLibrarian 5 points 3 years ago
It must be jarring leaving their bot/troll protected safe spaces of twitter/reddit and interacting with sane normal people.
MasterObee -2 points 3 years ago
If you tried building an echo chamber alone, but as the 'other side' - it's actually really easy.
Seikoholic 3 points 3 years ago
a wild BothSides appears!
Son_of_dad 2 points 3 years ago
Ah the ole "both sides" argument. I have a feeling you do indeed identify as one. And if in 2023 liberals and conservatives look the same to you, that's a fault in you
nuxetcrux 2 points 3 years ago
I'm so happy you are a powerless person 🤣 -- you think with the simplicity and guilelessness of a simpleton. One man raped women and children ("I SHOULD'VE POPPED HER CHERRY!!!" and, of course, "GRAB EM BY THE PUSSY"), is facing countless indictments related to treason and national security, hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, stochastic terrorism, literally has resent toward veterans as he sees them as a threat to his masculinity, 191m dollars golfing, it goes on and on. And another "doesn't talk right" and "is old". I hope you can one day realize how stupid you not only sound but ARE when you say/believe things like this. You sound like a self-important high-school drop-out.
rhacer -61 points 3 years ago
And the left doesn't do the exact same thing?
As an anarchist I qualify as neither liberal or conservative (unless you view anarchism as the the ultimate conservatism, and some do).
I've found that I often learn things from my conservative friends if I'm actually willing to listen to what they have to say.
I've found that I often learn things from my liberal friend if I'm actually willing to listen to what they have to say.
Until we are all willing to get out of our echo chambers and listen to people who believe differently than we do, we are going to both stagnate and fragment as a society.
stanleytweedle 55 points 3 years ago
Why do people feel the need to sign up with an ideology in the first place? You know you can hold all your same beliefs without declaring meaningless solidarity with every other goon that chooses the same team name.
aski3252 -17 points 3 years ago
Everyone has an ideology, whether you realize or acknowledge it or not. That doesn't mean that everyone who subscribes to the same ideology has the same views on everything.
People who consider themselves conservatives do exist, whether we like it or not. I much prefer them to be forced to be confronted with other views and opinions every now and then that challenge their worldview.
Otherwise, they will go to some echochamber hosted by right wingers. This has already happened to the point where they basically live in a parallel universe and self-isolate. I don't think it's in anybody's interest for us to also encourage this self-isolation..
stanleytweedle 21 points 3 years ago
Everyone has ideals and beliefs, an ideology is a curated selection of ideals and beliefs that help people that don't really want to sort through their own ideals and beliefs feel connected. Most people who claim an ideology haven't really thought through the reality of those beliefs and people who think through the reality of beliefs tend not to want to be defined by a particular ideology.
Of course if you only look through that lens you can just sort everyone you hear from into a familiar box and that will further reinforce your belief that everyone has an ideology. so this probably won't change your opinion on that.
But whatever people's beliefs are- what I find amusing is the "as a liberal\conservative\independent\anarchist\libertarian\whatever, I think" crowd. Their declaration of allegiance comes before any expression of their ideas or beliefs, which tells me they didn't come to those beliefs by reason or experience, they're just representing their belief club.
aski3252 -5 points 3 years ago
Everyone has ideals and beliefs, an ideology is a curated selection of ideals and beliefs that help people that don’t really want to sort through their own ideals and beliefs feel connected.
I don't want to get into a discussion about definitions, but in my view, an ideology is a set of principles, believes and values. Often ideologies overlap and are shared among different people, but you could also have a unique and personal ideology. In my view, everyone has an ideology, whether they deny to have one or not.
What you describe here I would call dogma, which is a strict ideology often enforced in a top down fashion.
Of course if you only look through that lens you can just sort everyone you hear from into a familiar box and that will further reinforce your belief that everyone has an ideology. so this probably won’t change your opinion on that.
We are simply talking about definitions.. You can call it "a set of ideals and beliefs", I generally call it "ideology". But I'm flexible with my definitions, what matters to me is that we understand eachother.
Their declaration of allegiance comes before any expression of their ideas or beliefs, which tells me they didn’t come to those beliefs by reason or experience, they’re just representing their belief club.
I agree that this seems to be a trend that is much more common in the past couple of years where everyone has to apply a strict label to them as a person. I generally avoid that, or I use something vague like "leftist" to describe myself, but I do think it often leads to prejudice where people assume they know all my personal views simply based on the label I use, but that's generally how it goes on the internet especially.
GaryPonderosa 0 points 3 years ago
You're right of course. There's a reason that humanity has never organized itself into groups before.
aski3252 -1 points 3 years ago
I'm not saying everyone thinks like me or that everyone thinks in the same way.. Obviously everyone has, to a certain extend, their own ideology..
"An ideology is a set of beliefs or philosophies attributed to a person or group of persons, especially those held for reasons that are not purely epistemic"
GaryPonderosa 25 points 3 years ago
If you're an anarchist you're a leftist. Anarchism and (modern) conservatism are mutually exclusive philosophies.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
rhacer -13 points 3 years ago
Not sure I fully agree. Both the left and they right love The State, but for different reasons. I believe in the abolition of The State. I think both the left and the right disapprove of that.
As to anarchism being "conservative" anarchism is all about The Individual. That tends to be a conservative view point as the left believes in The Collective.
I find I typically agree with both the left and the right about 50% of the time. It is certainly an interesting place to live one's life.
GaryPonderosa 17 points 3 years ago
The left doesn't love the state. Its a necessary evil in our current society. Dissolution of the state is a byproduct of achieving a post-capitalist society in classical Marxism. I think you're either using a wholly different definition of terms like left and right than I am, or that you're possibly confused about the naming conventions involved.
Persondeperson3 1 point 3 years ago
Did Emma Goldman love The State? Do Ayn Rand types love The State?
WetBeardHairs 2 points 3 years ago
Modern conservatism is strongly hierarchical. It may publicly preach ideals of the individual, but it always enacts policies that favor social hierarchy. That is the opposite of anarchism.
Badass_panda -3 points 3 years ago
You're getting downvotes but that's actually pretty insightful if you think about it
Ghostalmedia 44 points 3 years ago
Like comparing the echo in a bathroom to the echo in the Grand Canyon.
Dick_Justice 6 points 3 years ago
bbbut bOtH SIdEs!
Son_of_dad 20 points 3 years ago
Liberal echo chambers rant about human rights owed to people. Conservative echo chambers talk about how to remove human rights from individuals you don't like.
MrGeekman 3 points 3 years ago
"remove human rights individuals you don't like"
Would you mind giving some examples?
Also, conservatives are not a monolith. Just like liberals, conservatives are not a monolith. Some are further from center than others. Some are much, much further away from center.
Beowulf 1 point 3 years ago
remove human rights from individuals you don't like
yeah, i'd say it's more like removing the rights that the government gave themselves. as Reagan said, "terrifying words - I'm from the government and i'm here to help"
I'd say the majority of conservatives don't like government and wish they'd have less power over The People. One instance of this is the general opinion on the ATF (or BATFE if you're going by their modern(ish) name), they're an enforcement agency and yet are still making laws (they're doing so illegally by making "rules" on accessories such as Pistol Braces and Bump Stocks, both of which were given the OK from the ATF approximately 10 years ago (for the braces at least, can't recall about the bump stocks). In fact, when you look into the history of the ATF, they were apart of the Treasury Department because they're only job was to collect the taxes and fees, apply for permits, etc for Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
This is just one instance where the rights of the people are getting trampled on because of an agency where the director wasn't even voted in. Doesn't matter if you "need" it or "want" it but it's still nevertheless a right that you have. A practical approach that many people, even within the firearms industry, have told others is "if you don't want it, then don't buy it. We're not forcing you to purchase anything."
One of the sentiments I've been seeing online is the phrase "Become Ungovernable." I think we need to strive towards that.
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