Proton Pass open source password manager is now available on F-Droid
2 years ago by pro_grammer to c/opensource
Same, staying with bitwarden for now
Same, staying with keepass for forever
I'm switching from privatevpn to protonvpn just for the port forwarding with wireguard within a terminal, no stupid GUI app. Quite pleased with the service, they do VPN well.
Even steam proton?
Because we only know what the client does, and have no clue on the server side of things, allowing Proton to do any manipulations with the data. Not ideal when you consider it for password storage.
Because non-obvious backdoors can be added to the client that break or circumvent encryption (looking at you, xz), stealing all of your passwords, and no one will be able to raise the alarm just by looking at the server code.
Open-source backend allows to generally avoid this situation, while also potentially rendering you able to self-host if you're paranoid.
Something like Vaultwarden if you care about cloud sync, or KeePassXC if that's not on your priority list.
Just give me a Linux client for proton drive please. I'm tired of manually uploading/downloading files 😐
Yeeeeees. If you're orienting your company as the privacy-alternative it'd be great to emphasize support for the main privacy-oriented OS. I get that developers don't grow on trees, but this seems like a pretty crucial feature that should be prioritized.
I mean, I recently switched to Proton knowing what I was getting into, but I'd really like to see this happen soon.
They likely have a larger portion of Linux users then other companies though.
On their GitHub:
Supported cloud providers Celeste can currently connect to the following cloud providers:
Dropbox Google Drive Nextcloud Owncloud pCloud Proton Drive WebDAV
That's pretty cool all things considered I didn't think a 3rd party client could be made for drive
Very cool! Thank you for this.
i tried it recently, and it worked, it may have broken since then though
I'll still stick with bitwarden, but if I were to introduce someone very tech illiterate, I would probably recommend proton
I'm tech illiterate and been using Bitwarden for 3 years (premium), and honestly it doesn't work very well on Android. Every time I need to enter a password, it's completely hit-or-miss with Bitwarden. Half of the time it doesn't even pop up. I'm using Xiaomi phone and tablet with stock rom (global version).
Should I switch to Proton?
Before switching you should maybe read this and wait for the native app : https://www.reddit.com/...
Wow thanks, I have no idea. That's great news. I'll definitely wait for the native app. But in the meantime I'll try out Proton as a "backup" just in case something bad happens to Bitwarden or my personal vault.
I have the same issue with Keepass2Android. I think the issue is with Android itself rather than the password app.
Sometimes you have to long press on the password box and bitwarden might appear or a little "autofill" option may appear along in the 3 vertical dots pop up. Most of the time, Bitwarden auto pops up for me.
I feel like if you're already using Bitwarden and you're talking to us on Lemmy, you're not tech illiterate.
In terms of "Free version", what would be better? What would you recommend if I were to use one as Premium (daily use) and the other as Free (for backup purpose)?
Which sites or apps does it not pop up? It is rare for it not to pop up for me.
Same problem on 1password.
As a mobile developer I can tell you that working with Android keyboards has been a giant fucking pain in ass since inception to today.
While I can't speak specifically to why they both seem to have this problem, I wouldn't be surprised if the OS is part of the problem.
I wouldn't be shocked that if someone had it working consistently, it might be because of the most heinous hacks, or private greylisted APIs or some other nonsense.
I do remember trying several different keyboard apps, but none works consistently enough and some don't even work at all.
I like anysoft. The autofill thing for bitwarden sometimes takes a second but it always shows up.
I'll take KeepassXC and KeepassDX + SyncThing, just works and I don't have to ever rely on someone else for my most sensitive data.
I tried Google Drive, and also Seafile. the catch is that it needs to sync the files to your phones local file system. You could also do Next cloud or use Folder sync. https://play.google.com/...
i use Termux and just scp/rsync my stuff around.
ideallyi'd use Unison sync inside termux, but it hasnt been packaged and i dont know the first thing about ocaml, so it'd be hard for me to make the needed adjustments to package it.
Drive is under a different org:
Weren't they planning to change it from Microsoft's Android UI, it's just taking a while, as they have to rebuilt it from scratch? I thought I saw something about that.
Correct, they announced it two months ago: https://www.androidpolice.com/...
There is nothing wrong with it. Why people always want things to be changing? What really important feature are you missing?
And what better person to answer that question than Mr. Bitwarden himself:
A few for me:
- Automatically updating entries with app or URL information if they didn’t match and you had to manually search for them. You have to copy the URL, leave the browser, open the app, search for the entry again, and manually add the URL in the current version.
- Better defaults in the app like which group you log in to or which collection new entries are added to. Keeping all your entries added to a shared collection is a constant chore right now.
- Better keyboard functionality. It’s basically impossible to navigate with a keyboard on PC right now. Keepass has a global auto type hotkey which made it so you hardly even had to open the app.
a new client is on the way btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rVQOESKbbA
Do you know if there's a new interface coming for android as well?
Thanks for sharing, thats exciting!
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=-rVQOESKbbA
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
What do you feel it's missing? It's a tad slower than I'd like but otherwise works quite well.
I don't think protonpass has auto fill even on browser extension.
Or maybe I'm too stupid to figure it out. I ran side by side against bitwarden which I love. Could not figure out a way that didn't make me manually c/p the creds.
For me keepassxc is a dramatic improvement over a centralised service.
I use both and am afraid that I will lose the passwords in Proton Pass as Its a service they can restrict me of.
I should startto copy some accountd that I dont have yet in keepass but keepass is still the master holder
I'm not really sure what happens if Proton bans your account for any reason but Proton Pass does have offline access. I assume if you turn off internet access, you can still get all your passwords.
Is that not the same risk vith bitwarden too
Bitwarden has a really nice CLI that lets you backup your vault easily. I personally run bw export --format json --raw every few week so if for some reason I lose the "cloud" access, I can still migrate to self hosted or a different password manager. (Or you may choose to self-host to begin with)
Great to know!
The danger with self hosting is that police can always steal everything from you.
Felt weird hearing story of my ex that the german customs office just stole their Laptop and Phone. She couldn't show me pictures and she hadn't any backups or smth.
I am afraid this could happen to me too when they suspect something but are wrong at the end. At the entire time I will not have access to my drives of my server and maybe they accidentally break them. Not sure if they will believe me that its a raid 1, I can imagine them stealing everything without questioning.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket
Which F-Droid client is that?
Or even better use a local password manager. People will be swallowed by so much false comfort
both of them you download and use, it requires the smae amount of technical knowledge. in fact you could argue, that proton pass takes more technical expertise since you need to set up a account online first.
Long time Bitwarden user. Never been steered wrong. One of the few apps that I pay for premium not because I need the extra features, but because I value it enough to support the devs financially
They need to focus on providing quality services instead of quantity. The ProtonMail webmail is a shame: multiple selection lost if you click just outside the checkbox because that will open the email, emails that just after have been deketed reappear in the inbox and don't get me started on the search 🤢!
P.s. I've double commented because I've just realized that I've written the other comment in Italian 😆, sorry.
the password manager kinda sucks too. credit cards are in a category that you have to delete the name of the site you're visiting in order to see. sometimes I question why I'm paying for the thing. lastpass was way better 10 years ago.
Hanno iniziato da un po' di tempo a fornire troppi servizi, dovrebbero focalizzarsi di più a sistemare quelli che hanno. La webmail di Protonmail è un abominio: perdita di selezione multipla aprendo un'email, email che ricompaiono subito dopo averle cancellate, ricerca...stendiamo un velo pietoso!
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Proton is great but I do feel wary from putting all my eggs in one basket again.
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