scrubbles 161 points 3 years ago

Love that they intentionally blur the 1080p image too. I love 4k but the difference isn't that huge, that's an SD image next to 4k.

All around shitty. Charge for quality or device count. Not both.

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Metallibus 77 points 3 years ago

They also increased the saturation/contrast too.

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partial_accumen 12 points 3 years ago

Next rev of this promo the non premium version will look like watching video on an 8-bit NES.

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FlightyPenguin 3 points 3 years ago

That comparison might have merit, though. If they use 8-bit 1080p, it will have lower dynamic range than UHD at 10-bit depth.

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Metallibus 6 points 3 years ago

They captured this off the TV using a cell phone camera and uploaded to Lemmy and the difference is noticeable. It's not a dynamic range problem.

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kratoz29 14 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I like to watch anime, and most of it (if not all, I'm not sure) is only available on 1080p and it doesn't look nearly as bad as Netflix want us to think lol.

I also watch Netflix with my Nvidia Shield TV which has a pretty neat AI upscaler, but honestly any good upscaler nowadays would do, I mean lots of content is available in 1080p and that doesn't looks like changing for the foreseeable future.

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circuitfarmer 13 points 3 years ago

I've got a 1080p TV. I have had it for 10+ years and I will continue to have it until it craps out.

I've seen 4k. Yes it's better. Is it better enough? Not for me, and my eyes aren't getting any younger.

I also save money, since gaming at 1080 with great framerates is much easier too. And storing 1080 media etc (hell, even 720 with upscaling isn't too bad).

I guess my point is: come at me Netflix; keep annoying me with your ads. They literally have 0% chance of success.

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danhasnolife 137 points 3 years ago

-Password crackdown

-Removal of Basic Plan

-Aggressive advertising to up-package

-Focus on 1-3 years of low-budget 'reality' TV

Yikes. Netflix is hellbent on extracting maximum revenue possible, regardless of how shitty their product gets in the meantime.

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TempleSquare 58 points 3 years ago

Long run, they are corporate morons.

T-Mobile was "paying" for a rarely-used account on my family plan. Parents used it in another state. I occasionally used it. My brother logged in once in awhile. On any given week, it might see like 4 hours of collective viewership.

Turns out TMobile's contribution only covered the first $8. I have been paying another $10/mo. out of my own pocket and wasn't batting an eye.

Netflix was getting $18 a month for doing almost nothing! And that could have continued for many more years without my even questioning it.

BUT... One day I couldn't sign onto my own Netflix account that I pay for. Evidently, I'm not in my own household? That led to my discovery of the gargantuan amount I was paying for a service I barely use anymore.

So now, thanks to their greed, Netflix gets $0 from me. And not a single family member has phoned to ask why Netflix no longer works.

Some executives in Los Gatos may soon learn Econ 101's supply-and-demand curve.

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partial_accumen 31 points 3 years ago

Some executives in Los Gatos may soon learn Econ 101’s supply-and-demand curve.

Sadly, I'm confident they have a very good understanding of micro and macro economics and understand this action WILL cost them customers, but they've also calculated that they'll make MORE money by removing the features and abilities that existed in the product before the change.

They made this decision to earn them more money, and they're probably right.

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TempleSquare 15 points 3 years ago

But.....

A more expensive product becomes a more price-sensitive product. Now one customer represents income from 3-4 customers.

Recession hits. People are more likely to cancel something that is $25/mo than $8/mo. And each cancellation is like three cancellations.

Going "premium" is a valid strategy. But since we haven't had a serious recession in 15 years, I believe it's a shortsighted one.

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520 2 points 3 years ago

Are we not in a recession right now?

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sab 12 points 3 years ago

What these economists always fail to capture is that people prefer using services they are happy with. They figured they could lose a certain amount of users because the remaining users will remain and pay more per person. What they fail to take into account is that the people left are going to be way less happy with the service, and actively looking for replacements.

It's the same story all over. And unlike Reddit and Twitter, Netflix was actually making a profit.

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partial_accumen 4 points 3 years ago

What they fail to take into account is that the people left are going to be way less happy with the service, and actively looking for replacements.

That's built right into the Elasticity of Demand. The economic term phrase is search for substitution.

"When consumers make buying decisions, substitutes provide them with alternatives. Substitutes occur when there are at least two products that can be used for the same purpose, such as an iPhone vs. an Android phone. For a product to be a substitute for another, it must share a particular relationship with that good. Those relationships can be close, like one brand of coffee with another, or somewhat further apart, such as coffee and tea. "

What this means is they can actively calculate the number of subscribers they will lose when they increase the price of the product. They can also calculate the amount of more money they'll get with higher subscriber fees. They compare the two numbers and choose the one that makes them the most money.

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MaxVoltage 6 points 3 years ago

It's exactly like the packaged deals cable companies sell you

I just use Bflix it's A+

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sycamore 4 points 3 years ago

Don't forget withdrawing their DVD delivery service.

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thepiguy 39 points 3 years ago

Your can't achieve infinite growth by just making a good product.

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MrZigZag 15 points 3 years ago

Netflix's product isn't really all that good anymore either.

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LeHoz 20 points 3 years ago

NOWTV is pretty awful for this. You're stuck with SD content and adverts unless you pay £7 a month extra for HD and no ads.

That's right. HD, not 4K. They're stuck in 2009.

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Acid 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah the boost thing on NowTV is something I can never pay for out of principle it’s atrocious. Not to mention the experience on a pc is terrible.

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Ziel 19 points 3 years ago

Netflix justifies the existence of piracy.

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baascus 17 points 3 years ago

Enshittification

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CiderApplenTea 2 points 3 years ago

Why the hate on Spotify though? I agree with the general thought, but there are much better examples

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SamsungAppleOnePlus 15 points 3 years ago

Crazy to charge extra for what would be considered the default TV resolution in 2023, imo. Not even going to touch on how fake of a comparison that is.

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ZiemekZ 1 point 3 years ago

IMHO default TV resolution is still 1080p.

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DirkMcCallahan 13 points 3 years ago

I really wouldn't mind the increased rates/quality scams/etc. if their library wasn't such rubbish. There was a time when they had so much good stuff that I didn't have time to watch it all. Now? They have a handful of good shows drowned out by Is It Cake? and other shite.

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Metallibus 0 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I used to happily subscribe to Netflix because anything I could want was there. Now I use it on a family plan on occasion since it already existed, but there's no way I'd pay for it so I could watch like 2 shows and 4 comedy specials a year, and have to find everything else somewhere else.

I was happy with YouTube and just purchased things there but recently you can't watch beyond 480p in any browser except for Safari. So fuck that too.

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Shapillon 13 points 3 years ago

I'm on my phone and I can't even see the difference between the two sides ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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MarsRT 5 points 3 years ago

I'm on a phone too, and I find the left noticeably fuzzier, especially around that one black-haired guy's eyes.

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CloudMunch 8 points 3 years ago

A cable SD tv guide channel had an ad for HD like this. Representing SD was a deer in heavy bocca and in HD, the bocca was removed so you could see the background. Obviously, you can't sample HD on an SD channel, so it would make showing comparisons rather moot, but on the flipside, show producers could have made everything in HD if they just took out all the blurriness.

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cybervseas 1 point 3 years ago

Do you mean bokeh?

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michaelsoft_binbows 7 points 3 years ago

This reminds me of those gimbals on Amazon that show a “without gimbal/with gimbal” scenario (I’m looking at you, DJI and ZhiYun).

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Pyroglyph 5 points 3 years ago

Same thing with high frame rate monitors. They just slap a bunch of motion blur on the 60hz image and call it a day.

Though in their defense, it's not easy to illustrate framerate in a still image.

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reallynotnick 5 points 3 years ago

The HDR part is what kills me, if anything HDR seems to compress better than SDR. So it's not even a bandwidth thing to provide 1080p HDR.

And the 4K upcharge was fine when I could share it with my siblings since it gave us 4 streams at once. Now I only would need 1 stream, so I can't even get the full benefit of what I would pay for.

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Kraftee 5 points 3 years ago

Streamio+torrentio+real debrid, more content and cheaper. Fuck Netflix.

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Bluefalcon 5 points 3 years ago

We're still paying for Netflix?

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6mementomori 1 point 3 years ago

paying for Netflix incentivizes their bullshit

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Stez827 1 point 3 years ago

There's no legal way to watch their shows otherwise

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6mementomori 2 points 3 years ago

why does it have to be legal anyway?

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Stez827 2 points 3 years ago

I pirate it but my parents don't want to deal with that and many of my friends don't want to deal with that or worry of being caught commiting a crime even though you will never be caught

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6mementomori 1 point 3 years ago

that's reasonable, but pirating is even more

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Metallibus 1 point 3 years ago

This is the sad truth. I'll continue watching their shows on a family account as long as I can. The second that's gone, I'm done with their garbage.

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sagrotan 1 point 3 years ago

-> c/piracy