Simone Biles jabs Trump: 'I love my Black job'
2 years ago by vegeta to c/politics
Sounds more like fascist fetishization of the strong and disparaging of the weak to me.
Because that's exactly what it is.
“And I think it reflects pretty poorly on our sort of therapeutic society, that we try to praise people not for moments of strength, not for moments of heroism, but for their weakest moments,” Vance continued.
Ahahaha what a pathetic excuse for an overly stinky piece of weird shit.
That’s gotta sting even more for a man who’s perpetually stuck with bronze.
What up my glip glops!
Dopest of chains.
She's a national treasure! (And I hear she's a pretty good gymnast too.)
She didn't have to comment (actually she DID since the orange shit stained bully always requires a response during this campaign season), she could have just laid low, reveled in her Olympic wins, thanked GAWD and told the media her next move was she was going to Disneyland.
Instead, she bravely steps in and sarcastically jabs him on the nose knowing full well that the greatest insult to that privileged failure of a human is sass from an uppity negro. An actual WINNER, no less! Further punctuating that he's a loser.
Is there an Olympic sport for that?
Don't forget they have their goalposts mounted to a Bugatti.
I remember the Olympics where she had to drop out for personal issues and Reddit was a shitshow of people slamming on her being unpatriotic.
I know it’s likely not the same people but it irks me how now she’s a hero (always was to me) because she is bringing home medals.
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While queue grammatically works at the beginning of your sentence, if you spoke it aloud, a native English speaker would interpret the sentence as beginning with "cue".
ie, "This comment will trigger (cue) some Trump word salad..."
vs
"After this comment, Trump will prepare a series (queue) of Trump word salad..."
I'm a native English speaker and this is ridiculous pedantry. Especially given the context. Word salad is a string of words, all delivered in sequence - all lined up, as it were, or even... dare I say... queued up. Why would anyone pick such a weird thing to argue about though?
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As a flaming red socialist, I will say that (while it seems to have been effective), the "black jobs" rhetoric is disingenuous.
Saying that [x group] will take [y group] jobs is a standard thing. You could say, "California expats will take Texan jobs," for instance. This doesn't mean there is a specific class of job that Texans are suitable for. It means there are jobs that could be held by Texans that would be taken by California expats instead. In Trump's case, there is no evidence for such job-taking, but he clearly means to say something specific - and it isn't that jobs should be/are segregated.
So, anyway. It doesn't really matter so long as it hurts Trump, but this type of rhetoric is misleading, disingenuous, and ultimately harmful to the state of political discourse.
Edit: This caused a shit storm. This is the point I'm trying but apparently failing to make:
When we make criticisms of the other side, those criticisms are usually stronger in the long run if they're based on the actual positions they take rather than straw-manned ones. And I think this is "black jobs" rhetoric is a straw-manned critique.
The problem with the "black Jobs" rhetoric is that it was made in reference to immigrant labor, implying that black Americans are a permanent racial underclass competing for low wage jobs with new immigrants. Trump broke the cardinal rule of Republican politics: he told the truth.
That's why Biles' statement is notable, because her "black job" is to be a world champion.
Yeah, that's fair. But it does require reading that implication into what he said. While he may very well believe that, idk if it's what he meant or not.
A speaker's public record provides context for their current commentary. Trump's tells us he is a bigot. Specifically a white supremacist. His recent rhetoric leans in to this. When pressed to clarify, justify, or recant these statements he either deflects or doubles down.
There is no reason to think he is suddenly well intentioned, operating in good faith, or otherwise deserving of some deference of judgement.
It doesn't really require giving him credit, just looking at the words at face value. All I'm saying is in this instance he was trying to be racist, just maybe not in this particular way. He was obviously trying the standard republican tactic of playing groups against one another to get political power. And while he has proven to be racist numerous times, I just don't think that it is clear from what he said that he intended to communicate that black people can't have certain jobs. That specifically. He can still be a racist and not be communicating that particular thing.
I'm not defending Trump, just saying that we should hold ourselves to high rhetorical standards where possible OR at least recognize when we're twisting things to score political points. That line is very blurred in modern political rhetoric.
Either way, good on Simone for using her platform. I just don't think that this criticism is in good faith - which can be okay, especially when the other side is constantly arguing in bad faith. I just think that it can have consequences to the way we treat political issues more broadly.
He kinda did, though. He tried to say that a "black job" was any job a black person had. I think his handlers told him to shut up about it because it was drawing negative press.
Again, this whole "the blacks" vs "evil mexican immigrants" thing is racist. But that =/= "black people can only have certain jobs". Just like when they drummed up this same rhetoric targeted at rural white people with bush, romney, mccain, and trump for all 3 of his campaigns ... they always do this. And clearly they think white people can have all sorts of jobs.
That just isn't the case. Like, sure, it is a possible implication. But it is not the most likely one given the context. There are other implications to draw, like the ones I've given examples of, which are more likely given the context.
The fact that people can't understand my point and are mass downvoting is what I'm talking about. I'll sperg out on this despite the disagreement because I'm interested in rhetoric and political messaging.
Read my responses. It is not botd. Trump is obviously a racist POS. But being a racist POS doesn't mean each thing he says means all racist things. Things have specific meanings. My whole point is that people aren't thinking critically about how the messaging and the actual content of the speech differ.
People choose to live in CA or TX.
Skin color isn't a choice. It's not the same thing.
Add to it that it was uttered by a notorious racist who has been a bigoted piece shit for 40+ years.
The implication is clear.
The implication is pretty clearly "the immigrants are coming to take your jobs, black people". Especially when said to a room full of black people. Especially given that that has been standard republican messaging for well over 50 years for all ethnic groups.
That is still racist. It is still manipulative. It is still scummy and bad. It just is pretty clearly not logically equivalent to "immigrants are coming to take the jobs segregated for black people".
And obviously state of residence is not equivalent to race. It is an example. It is the same logical form of argument. They've done the same thing (about race, specifically) to rural white folks since literally the trans-continental railroad, but then about Chinese immigrants mostly. In modern times, the meaning has never been "only x race can have y job". It has always been about the threat of the outsider (immigrant) "stealing" jobs from non-immigrants as a way of causing an us-vs-them dynamic. That is still a racist dynamic. But it is not the same as saying only x race can have y job.
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