Trump Dodges ABC and Demands Fox Debate With Harris.
2 years ago by ModerateImprovement to c/news
She should agree to Fox if:
It takes place after ABC (so Trump doesn't bail)
Fox airs an explanation, immediately before and after the debate, for the $750 million+ settlement concerning the Big Lie.
Considering how quick they are to point out that Biden legitimately won the 2020 election now that they had to pay out, Harris should hammer the point that Biden won in 2020 to poke the bear that is Trump. We'll see if Fox is willing to be sued again and not call him on it or cut him off.
This is a very good point. If she ever ends up on Fox (hope not), it would be negligent not to use this attack. T**** lost, and he still can't admit this basic, important fact. A fact his lawyers, all around the country, could not escape, in even the most friendly jurisdiction. Some of them are now disbarred because of this. Fox News paid an incredible sum (and lost Cucker) because of this.
Read article that she refused and told Trump he needs to stick to the debate he already agreed to on a prime time channel. Not all of us have cable but lots of people can pick up ABC. She said she be there whether he is or not.
I think you mean "broadcast channel" and yes I wholeheartedly agree.
"We're happy to discuss further debates after the one both campaigns have already agreed to," he added. "Mr. Anytime, anywhere, anyplace should have no problem with that unless he's too scared to show up on the 10th."
Gold.
To be clear Fox has never argued that their entire network is entertainment and not news. They have made that distinction between what they call opinion shows like Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity's old shows and their actual news segments. Fox does produce a legitimate news broadcast that is considerably less biased and inflammatory than those opinion shows. Unfortunately that broadcast is not nearly as popular as the garbage shows they've had to make the arguments you're referencing about.
I don't give a flying fuck about the bullshit excuses of lying propagandists. And no, their "news" segments are not "legitimate:" the fact that they're "considerably less biased" than the rest of it is just damning with faint praise. The "news" segments may not tell outright lies like the talking-head shows do, but they damn well lie by omission in terms of which stories they choose to cover and who they choose to quote.
I don't think anything I said could be considered praise of Fox News. It's simply more factual and measured than the profanity laden emotional outburst you chose to go with. Fox can suck a whole bag of dicks for all I care, I just think it's important to have your facts straight. After all, not doing so is exactly why most of us have a problem with Fox to begin with.
I just think it’s important to have your facts straight.
Then why didn't you? The fact is that even what they call "news" is still extremely biased. The fact that it's "less" so, compared to commentary shows that are so far off the deep end that I'd have to invent new superlatives to adequately express how biased they are, does not change its position on an absolute bias scale.
You called that shit "legitimate," and that just isn't true.
Eh, I'd debate the word 'considerably'.
Less blatant bias? Yes. Still biased AF? Also yes.
Not entire network of shows is entertainment there's the 2 hours a day when they give their preferred hosts a break. I don't really know the hours spent on actual news but I have the impression it's in low single digit hours. I also assume they put more emphasis on right wing topics during those times, as factual as they may be rather than a balanced news source. If I'm wrong I'll gladly be corrected since I don't really watch broadcast TV anyways (corrected typo)
I agree with the sentiment here but trump doesn't belong in a dementia ward. He does not have dementia, anyone watching him speak / interact with people can tell. It also diminishes his roll in all the absolutely terrible shit he does / spews everyday. Make him take full responsibility for his actions, dont blame even a second of it on dementia..its not fair to folks / families who have gone thru that disease.
Edit: these upvotes better not be trumpets who are too dumb to see I'm not defending their daddy. To be clear I'm just saying we should not pin his bullshit on a mental disease, its not fair and gives him an out.
I had several people who work with the elderly tell me he had early dementia signs in 2016, and he's only declined since then, so I'm not sure what you're taking about. He's already sundowned a few times.
The debate should not be held on an entertainment channel.
We need these to start popping up at his rallies
Nah, I think the current strategy is the best. They try to paint themselves as some "silent majority", when in reality they are just some odd balls, who for some reason are obsessed about having demented, geriatric felon to hold the office off the president.
They are just a group of weird, insane people.
Weird, small handed, felon, baby, is yellowbellied
I think the way to respond to this is not to acknowledge it. Just keep challenging him to "the" agreed debate on abc. Keep saying he's too chicken to debate you.
At least this nullifies his angle.
I love how all the news orgs this morning worded it that Trump approved of the fox debate as if it was a thing before he made it one. Harris should make him do the ABC one with live fact checking before even considering fascist entertainment news network.
Live fact checking sounds good to me. I’d also like to see a long-form debate so that candidates have enough time to properly discuss each topic. The traditional format seems so outdated and only helpful for creating soundbites.
Trump wants everything in his favour
Which I could sort of understand, but then he whines for years about it if he doesn't get his way. Even my young children get over things faster than he does.
Is it the bone spurs again? Poor, weird, dumb, snowflake Donnie
I thought you said she already agreed to it. What a weirdo.
do what was promised and well talk
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Harris should refuse Fox because they have claimed in court to be an entertainment channel and not a news organization. If she does use her ABC time she should post that on a giant screen behind her podium.
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