First time I hear about the Boox Palma, a phone-sized E-reader with Android and the Play Store, does anyone have it?

2 years ago by Blaze (he/him) to c/android

TimeWalker 31 points 2 years ago

Just a reminder that Boox does not release the kernel source code and is thus violating GPL2

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bane_killgrind 1 point 2 years ago

Hmmm I just bought another of their tablets

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Blaze 7 points 2 years ago

Seems an interesting way to be able to carry an e-reader in your pocket.

I have a Kobo, but it's a bit too large to bring all the time with me.

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clmbmb 3 points 2 years ago

Not sure hore good this is, but some years ago I bought my wife an Android ebook reader. It was so slow and cumbersome that I got her a Kindle and swore to myself never to touch an Android reader.

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Maerman 4 points 2 years ago

They have become considerably better in recent years, but I understand the hesitation. Once bitten, twice shy, and all that. I will say that my experience with Boox devices has been pretty good, though. As long as you don't expect it to behave like a full-fledged Android tablet. But above all, don't trust strangers on the internet.

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DharkStare 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know how relevant this is to you but I was looking at getting a Boox since it would easily let me read my Kindle and Kobo books on a single device without any hassle. However, it achieves this by running their apps so the books are segregated. There's no one library with all your books. Your Kindle books are only on the Kindle app, your Kobo books are only on the Kobo app, your library books are only on the Libby app.

It sounded really tedious to have to flip between a bunch of different apps to track all my books so I decided to just stick with Kobo.

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Maerman 5 points 2 years ago

Might I direct you to piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com? Boox devices have a fantastic generic reader app which can handle just about any file type and is very customizable. If you are willing to navigate certain sites, you can get many books for free, and the Boox reader app is an absolute champ when it comes to opening them and tweaking the experience to your liking. It's more effort, without a doubt. But it's worth it for me personally.

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OpenPassageways 4 points 2 years ago

Hmm, it sounds like you need to use something like Calibre to export all your books to a single standard format.

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GenderNeutralBro 1 point 2 years ago

This is why I refuse to buy e-books with DRM. Amazon should have no say in how, where, or when I read my books.

ebooks.com has a searchable DRM-free section, so that's my go-to: https://www.ebooks.com/en-us/drm-free

For anything not available without DRM, I will pirate it without a second thought.

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bane_killgrind 0 points 2 years ago

I just pirate everything I want to read.

I bought children of time and the subsequent books on paperback and immediately downloaded epubs

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RBWells 2 points 2 years ago

The library lends e-books, I have had good luck with their selections. I try not to buy books and still end up with more of them than I want. Mostly because I like graphic novels on paper.

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bane_killgrind 2 points 2 years ago

My shelf is also full...

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KinglyWeevil 1 point 2 years ago

Bro just use your phone. If it's android, use AIReader. Free, incredibly configurable, can read every type of book file. Dark mode, adjustable brightness for reading before bed. It gets so dark that I can't even read the minimum setting in a pitch black room. Best e-reader app I've ever found and I've been using it for probably 10 years now.

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Eczpurt 20 points 2 years ago

Personally the attraction here with the boox is the e-ink screen. I also use my phone for reading pretty much everything but e-ink would be easier to look at for longer sessions.

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Maerman 5 points 2 years ago

Okay, so I'll preface this by saying I am absolutely fascinated by e-ink technology, and I believe there is a lane for it. I am typing this on a Bigme Hibreak, a smartphone with an E-ink screen, and I have owned two Boox devices thus far. If you manage your expectations and you have the patience to tinker and dial it in, some of these devices can be perfect. The Boox Palma looks like a very practical device, although I haven't used it myself. It seems to be very lightweight, and I can say from experience that the Boox software is pretty user-friendly (although not necessarily beginner-friendly; some settings tweaks are needed to optimize the experience). The Boox software is generally pretty stable, and the generic reader app is one of the best I've ever used. As another user pointed out, their software is not open source, so you may want to take that into account, but I haven't encountered an E-reader company that does publish open source software (or hardware, for that matter). For what it's worth, I had a Boox Nova Pro and replaced it with a Boox Nova Air C, and I have very few complaints. Just don't order through GoodEreader. They are a bunch of assholes.

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sbv 4 points 2 years ago

What's the benefit of a phone-sized e-reader? I always have my phone with me, and I do most of my reading on that.

I would like a larger e-reader, so I didn't have to flip pages so often, but not enough to pay for it.

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keyez 9 points 2 years ago

Probably the benefits of reading on eink which is less straining on the eyes but in a smaller form factor

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SkavarSharraddas 3 points 2 years ago

For the price I would want it to be a complete smartphone, with SIM and GPS and everything, just with an e-ink display for battery saving and readability in sunlight.

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Maerman 6 points 2 years ago

Look at the Bigme Hibreak. It might be up your alley.

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Blaze 2 points 2 years ago

The SIM would be nice indeed

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werefreeatlast 2 points 2 years ago

I want to know if I can run Linux on the hardware. That would be awesome.

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Subtex 2 points 2 years ago

I've got a Palma. Love it.

Like others here, I keep wifi off while I'm reading and only turn it on to update my Omnivore articles or update my saved position in a book (using Kindle or Kobo apps).

I have no idea how the battery holds up for the people who are trying to use it as a phone (ie using it a lot for browsing or chatting and other battery-heavy apps).

I just wanted a phone sized eReader that could let me install apps other than just a bookstorr. The Palma fits that bill wonderfully.

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FundMECFSResearch 1 point 2 years ago

Can I ask you questions about it?

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Subtex 2 points 2 years ago

Sure

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FundMECFSResearch 1 point 2 years ago

Thanks! I’m interested in buying the device, not to read but because I have a disability that basically makes it impossible for me to use normal phones due to visual overload. I have a couple questions:

  1. How dim does the backlight go? Can it get so dim that you barely realise it is on — kind of like minimum phone brightness?
  2. What is the experience like when typing? Could you use the phone to send messages?
  3. What does the hardware feel like? It seems the CPU is pretty weak, do you feel that at all when using? What do you think the longevity would be like?
  4. Do you think a usecase like leaving the display on as a button pad with a bunch of shortcuts would be a workable usecase?
  5. Can the customisable sidebutton be programmed to do literally anything? Like could I link it to a Tasker shortcut or something?
  6. I’ve noticed that people say the settings are rather limited compared to normal android? Has that limited you in any way, are things like DNS and VPN still usable?
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kzhe 2 points 2 years ago

I have the Palma. I use it mostly just to read, and I prefer it to when I had a kindle purely for portability.

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FundMECFSResearch 1 point 2 years ago

Can I ask you questions about it?

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kzhe 1 point a year ago

Sure!

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ultranaut 2 points 2 years ago

I have one, it's been a great device but the battery drains faster than I'd like when WiFi is enabled. I mostly use it for reading in bed and its been perfect for that.

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Blaze 2 points 2 years ago

Interesting, how many hours does a full charge last?

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ultranaut 3 points 2 years ago

I only turn WiFi on when I specifically need it so its usually multiple days between charges. If its just running an e-reader app it lasts a very long time.

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FundMECFSResearch 1 point 2 years ago

Can I ask you some questions about it?

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ultranaut 1 point 2 years ago

Sure.

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GenderNeutralBro 1 point 2 years ago

I have a different Boox product, the low-end Poke Lite (I think version 4?).

Pros:

  • E-paper display is easy on the eyes
  • Customizable backlight temperature and brightness
  • Runs arbitrary Android apps
  • Battery for days
  • Can install open-source reading apps like Librera
  • Still receiving software updates after a few years

Cons:

  • Only runs Android 11
  • Installing Google Play requires jumping through some weird hoops, because it's not Google certified. I recommend using F-Droid instead, or using a throwaway google account to avoid this security liability.
  • Built-in apps kind of suck in general
  • Home screen strongly pushes their own ecosystem, shoving regular Android apps into a different section
  • Most apps look like ass on a B&W display
  • Most apps look like ass on a 4:3 display (not applicable to the Palma)
  • The various display refresh modes are unintuitive

The newer models, from what I understand, use faster-refreshing display tech, and some even support color.

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