Was John Pinette performing in the 90s? Chris Farley definitely was.
This is what peak performance looks like
2 years ago by The Picard Maneuver to c/frasier
Sc00ter 39 points 2 years ago
If you're working out 5 days a week and don't have the physique you're after, you need to do different work outs. If you're trying to slim down, lifting weights 5 days a week and cramming protein powder is the wrong workout
Benjaben 36 points 2 years ago
This advice is so incomplete as to be pretty unhelpful at best. Not trying to be a jerk, but A) the kinds of workouts you're doing don't have much at all to do with weight loss, and B) the number of people for whom too much protein powder is the reason they can't lose weight is...I mean, it just must be vanishingly small. These are not the reasons most people who want to be slimmer are not, even the ones who are real active.
Sc00ter 5 points 2 years ago
There are a lot of people who don't realize that different workout regiments accomplish different things. They follow some shredded dude on insta who shares their workout, and they think if they do the same thing, they'll look like them.
If you wanna be shredded and you're over weight today, you have to slim down before you bulk up
Also, in reference to the pic from op, That dudes strong already. If they want to look "better," more weights isn't the answer
Benjaben 12 points 2 years ago
I just think it's really conflating two separate things. Weight loss (or gain) is primarily, overwhelmingly controlled by diet. The ~10% influence exercise has just doesn't leave much room for exercise choice to influence the weight loss goal much. In fact cardio and especially HIIT can really make the brain feel super hungry, and work against dietary goals. Anecdotally and I believe supported by literature.
So for the things that exercise and choice of exercise really contribute to, sure, choose them wisely so that they align with your goals.
But in general, people who want to lose weight should focus on diet almost entirely. And separately, almost anyone looks better with more and stronger muscle. But yeah, they're distinct goals with very different strategies. Sounds like you do agree about that.
Anticorp 2 points 2 years ago
I disagree with you, as do most bodybuilders and physical trainers. Muscle mass burns calories. The more muscles you have, the more you have to eat to keep them. So by focusing on building strength and muscle first, it’ll be easier to lose the fat later. Plus, people who are brand new to weightlifting get something called newb gains, where they can both build muscle and burn fat at the same time. Once you’ve been at it a while you can’t do that anymore. You need to either bulk (and gain some fat), or shred, and lose fat (and some muscle).
Anticorp 1 point 2 years ago
the kinds of workouts you're doing don't have much at all to do with weight loss
I get where you’re going with that, but if you’re doing full body exercise routines 3 days per week, including squats and deadlifts, then your caloric needs will be considerably higher than someone who is just wandering around the gym, hitting an occasional machine. When I’m doing my strength routine I need roughly 3900 calories per day. That is fucking hard to do. So, it’s pretty easy to lose fat (and some muscle). It doesn’t require starving, it requires me to just stop force feeding myself 6 times per day
SynopsisTantilize 1 point 2 years ago
I do a full week bro split push, pull, legs, accessory arms, accessory back. And if I were to not eat two extra eggs I lose 2 lbs a week lol
Edit...okay more like if I skip lunch every once in a while I lose 2 lbs a week
Anticorp 2 points 2 years ago
Yeah, whenever I notice that I’m getting a bit too thick on my stomach, I just stop watching my calories so closely and it goes away within a couple weeks. I don’t have an issue with overeating, I have an issue with eating enough.
Benjaben 1 point 2 years ago
Lol this thread ain't about you and you know it! I know some folks do hit really massive caloric needs even just for maintenance. And hell, even just getting enough protein can be pretty tedious in my own experience, eating for you has got to be a serious chore!
I do want to point out, not to be argumentative but just in the spirit of fun - you didn't really disagree with the point lol. You said if you decide to lose weight you change diet, not exercise choice.
Just out of curiosity, what are your goals/hobbies that have your activity level so gnarly?
Anticorp 1 point 2 years ago
I know it’s not me, but the point is that for some people it’s easier to be more active than to eat less food. If you burn enough calories then you can eat as much as you want, and then some.
I don’t have that same requirement right now because I’m not strength training. But when I’ve slacked off for a while and start getting weak, I do full body workouts, full of compound exercises, and big heavy weights. My hobbies vary, but include rock climbing, mountain biking, and hiking/backpacking. Those types of activities burn a lot of calories, as does building muscle, so doing both on a regular basis means you have to eat a lot of food to put muscle on.
johannesvanderwhales 32 points 2 years ago
A lot of people don't want to face that what needs to change is diet.
Benjaben 3 points 2 years ago
So true. There's also just a ton of bad info we all grow up with telling us that exercising for fat loss is viable, ya know? Hell, even the cardio machines (AKA the first place at the gym most new folks go when they wanna make a change) has settings for "fat burn". Which isn't...wrong, I guess, but it's super misleading, if you don't already know whassup.
Plenty of denial going around (my own included at times 😅) but dang, just getting solid info is a minefield.
ohwhatfollyisman 12 points 2 years ago
message received. i'll now lift protein powders and cram weights.
Crackhappy 9 points 2 years ago
Up voting because lol.
Anticorp 5 points 2 years ago
Well it depends on how long they’ve been at it, and dietary changes along with adequate rest will have a bigger impact than changing their exercises, assuming they’re on a reasonable routine. It takes years to build a good physique. It takes 6-9 months of consistently working out, and following a good diet, for people to really start noticing all of the work you’ve been putting in.
MonkderVierte 1 point 2 years ago
Doing that, changing your eating habits and not eating the protein powder is the right workout.
MachineFab812 11 points 2 years ago
The ninetees WERE really fucken weird in certain circles. It is the decade that gave us pro-ana forums afterall. Never really applied in this way to grown men though.
disguy_ovahea 33 points 2 years ago
His first big role was on Cheers, from 1984-1993.
pineapplelover 3 points 2 years ago
Thought this guy was Frasier
disguy_ovahea 2 points 2 years ago
He was. The character was introduced on Cheers. Frazier the tv show was a spinoff.
KillerTofu 19 points 2 years ago
With that winning personality I can see you choose your username wisely.
Crackhappy 9 points 2 years ago
Despite my name, I still have never tried crack.
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That was not considered comically overweight in the 90s or any decade.
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