Hey could we defederate with exploding-heads.com/

3 years ago by chalkman to c/main

The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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passport 41 points 3 years ago

Not the prettiest instance, but have they caused any real trouble outside of their own instance? Not much of a fediverse if we just defederate from instances that lean different politically. Especially seems like a weird move to go defederating on other instances this early given y'know, that we just got defederated from beehaw because of one misbehaved asshole.

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chalkman 38 points 3 years ago

Given that no bigotry is one of the stated rules of this instance and that bigotry is pretty rampant over on that instance I think it would be appropriate to disassociate with them.

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passport 1 point 3 years ago

Seems like something you should block individual users over rather than a whole instance

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goat -14 points 3 years ago

Bigotry is a matter of personal taste. I found some posts from trans subs talking about cis white men killing people, but I didn't try to censor them because I'm an adult and possess the ability to ignore them.

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imaqtpie 31 points 3 years ago

I'm not saying we should immediately defederate, but the reason I originally went to check them out was partially because of this comment and the reply from dick@exploding-heads.com

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/207742

When he made that reply, it got rapidly upvoted to +7, while my comment was also sitting at about +7. This morning, several hours later, when a bunch of actual sh.itjust.works users woke up and read the thread, the ratio of votes changed in my favor.

I fear that we are going to deal with a significant level of brigading from that instance, and unlike reddit we don't really have any tools to combat that.

They also had a good laugh about the troll who posted here about getting us defederated by beehaw. They really don't like beehaw, or gay people in general.

It's whatever but we are already defederated with lemmygrad.ml and I feel like this stuff is on that same tier.

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lunarshot 8 points 3 years ago

this is an interesting post-reddit effect, we have people of all different types and motives seeking new places.

A lot of people seem to think this is an all out battle between a new community and reddit. Like we have to beat them or something. The situation with reddit is not a win-lose, reddit would never go dark overnight. A lot of users are just over reddit and moving on. I personally don’t care about lemmy becoming the next reddit nor do I really care what happens to them.

A big difference to me with this migration is the instances seem to attract like minds. This is going to be a very interesting event to watch how the fediverse grows and changes.

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goat 3 points 3 years ago

I had a look through their hot-page and couldn't find anything on the level of lemmygrad. Do you have any examples?

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AyyLMAO -7 points 3 years ago

What can I say about brigading other than Exploding Heads having to turn off downvotes for the first time ever due to silent brigading?

How's our federation affecting your instance?

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TheRealBob 24 points 3 years ago

Being openly bigoted isn’t a “political leaning” though, and it’s against lemmy.world’s code of conduct as stated on the sidebar link: https://mastodon.world/about

Provide a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for everyone regardless of gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, political affiliation, or other similar characteristic.

No one is saying let’s ban conservatives. This discussion is about defederating an instance that seems to be crawling with alt-right trolls. I don’t understand why that would be a problem.

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eta_aquarid 19 points 3 years ago

Like I'd hope that we wouldn't follow in Reddit's footsteps of tolerating alt-right bigotry

Defederating isn't like being fucking censored or whatever; it's people deciding that they don't want to be around you

Basically near-every instance did this for Lemmygrad with zero complaint, so it's fucking weird that there are so many people complaining now when it comes to an instance teeming with alt-right bigotry

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ruckblack 16 points 3 years ago

Agree. I think blocking should be done on an individual basis unless it truly becomes a problem for most users and a turn-off for new users

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