Gun Companies Gave Customers’ Sensitive Personal Information to Political Operatives

2 years ago by HellsBelle to c/news

At least 10 gun industry businesses, including Glock, Smith & Wesson, Remington and Mossberg, secretly handed over names, addresses and other data to lobbyists, who used the details to rally firearm owners to elect pro-gun politicians.

Those operatives, in turn, secretly employed the details to rally firearm owners to elect pro-gun politicians running for Congress and the White House, a ProPublica investigation has found.

The clandestine sharing of gun buyers’ identities — without their knowledge and consent — marked a significant departure for an industry that has long prided itself on thwarting efforts to track who owns firearms in America.

At least 10 gun industry businesses, including Glock, Smith & Wesson, Remington, Marlin and Mossberg, handed over names, addresses and other private data to the gun industry’s chief lobbying group, the National Shooting Sports Foundation. The NSSF then entered the gun owners’ details into what would become a massive database.

dual_sport_dork 40 points 2 years ago

The clandestine sharing of gun buyers’ identities — without their knowledge and consent — marked a significant departure for an industry that has long prided itself on thwarting efforts to track who owns firearms in America.

I was going to mention exactly this, but it seems the article already beat me to it.

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barsquid 24 points 2 years ago

We need a HIPAA for regular data.

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blurg 12 points 2 years ago path: 0 13063988 13068518, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 0
Wiz 5 points 2 years ago

Depending on the type of data and where you live, you can have some of its benefits.

There's FERPA for student data.

Credit card companies require very strict controls over their data, and how charges are made and encrypted.

I'm Europe there is the GDPR, which grants a right to remove your data from a particular site, among other protections. Some US states have followed with lesser versions, like California, Colorado, and Virginia.

I don't think you want HIPAA-level data protections over normal data, because it's a passion in the ass to have that level of restrictiveness over mere ordinary data. It costs a lot to protect it - you'd need documented written permissions on every aspect of your data.

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barsquid 8 points 2 years ago

No, that is what I want. It should be a pain in the ass and expensive to hold. It should be a liability. Ok, fair, just for actual PII and not things like account settings specific to that business. But I do want it.

And GDPR-style deletions while we're on the topic, I want that also.

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Wiz -3 points 2 years ago

If you were to have this, then there would be no social media. Probably no email, as both sides of the communication would not be allowed to forward it. You would not be able to communicate or post on forums.

It would take computing back to about 1990. The medical industry uses faxes for a reason. They are very secure point to point communication. That's the sort of security you're asking for, and it would cripple most communication.

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barsquid 1 point 2 years ago

The medical industry uses computers, actually. Healthcare providers may send medical information over the internet. They need to have a business agreement with the entity they send it to and follow the other rules in HIPAA.

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desktop_user 1 point 2 years ago

faxes are only legally secure, not physically.

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yesman 20 points 2 years ago

For years I've argued that the gun lobby is for manufacturers, not owners. This is a concrete example of them prioritizing the former over the latter.

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SeaJ 11 points 2 years ago

Something tells me gun nuts will waive away the violation of privacy that gun companies sharing gun purchasing into with government officials represents.

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vaultdweller013 4 points 2 years ago

Most gun nuts I know fucking hate the manufacturers, its the gun fetishists that are the ones who wave it away.

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ThermonuclearCactus 1 point 2 years ago

Because the gun nuts usually know enough about how firearms work to just make their own guns.

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vaultdweller013 2 points 2 years ago

Either they know enough to build their own or enough to restore inoperable ones. But yeah a lot of them unless they are professionally involved with the manufacturers arent quite about their hatred.

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FlyingSquid 5 points 2 years ago

Now is not the time to talk about gun privacy control.

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auzy 1 point 2 years ago
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AhismaMiasma 0 points 2 years ago
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FlyingSquid 3 points 2 years ago

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AhismaMiasma -1 points 2 years ago
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RaoulDook 7 points 2 years ago

The facts reported by the Jan 6th committee made it clear that it was a premeditated coup attempt.

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FlyingSquid 2 points 2 years ago

I have no idea what you mean by "DJT and his ilk." None of them were breaking into congress. The people that were wanted to install Trump as president and do it by executing Mike Pence. They made that very clear. So yes, that was a coup attempt. I'm not sure why you think Trump had to be directly involved to make it a coup attempt.

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Rentlar 4 points 2 years ago

We need good guys with boots to tread on me to stop bad guys with boots!

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