Plus, as a member of the Imperial Senate, she's obviously part of The Swamp that must be drained.
(I also hear she emigrated to Alderaan illegally.)
What has she done to stop the genocide on Alderaan?
2 years ago by Flying Squid to c/politicalmemes
FlyingSquid 46 points 2 years ago
FlyingSquid 18 points 2 years ago
Plus, he's, you know... one of them.
UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 2 years ago
She was for Senator Palpatine before she was against him
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Keeponstalin 62 points 2 years ago
Why do you support terrorists?
The Empire has a right to defend itself
Those Rebel Terrorists were using human shields
The ones responsible for the destruction of Alderaan were those Rebel Terrorists, we gave a very humane 30 minute evacuation warning after all
Objection 14 points 2 years ago
The rebels destroyed Alderaan with their own superweapon they had been developing underground. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the Death Star did fire on Alderaan, but it was a targeted, focused strike that hit a rebel facility which caused their superweapon to explode and destroy the planet, the Empire had no idea that would happen. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the Death Star did destroy the planet, but the rebels were still developing a superweapon and even more people would've died otherwise. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the rebels weren't developing a superweapon on Alderaan, but the destruction of the planet were the actions of a rogue moff acting without approval. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the Emperor's right hand man was in the room when it was decided, but Emperor Palpatine has invited every surviving Alderaanian to his own private resort world, and they're also rebuilding with a new colony on Ejolus. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
OK, the colony on Ejolus has been wiped out, but they were harboring rebels. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.
ThirdWorldOrder 39 points 2 years ago
Spicy thread and I’m just going to go get my popcorn
Clinicallydepressedpoochie 26 points 2 years ago
No, you must participate! You're the reason this country is falling apart!!
whotookkarl 32 points 2 years ago
'Princess' establishment chosen Lyin' Leiyah is clearly just trying to turn the empire back into the corrupt old Republic and force everyone to accept all aliens including the despicable Gran who don't deserve rights because they don't look or act like me. I heard she was even there when Alderaan was destroyed and did nothing.
FlyingSquid 13 points 2 years ago
Ho ho!
Hey hey!
What planet did Leia blow up today?
Nuke_the_whales 28 points 2 years ago
Vader's death Star may be pointing right at Yavin 4, but Leia doesn't want to support the rights of Yavin 4 natives so they're the same
negativenull 27 points 2 years ago
Vader's spokesman said there was a floating planet of trash floating in space called Tatooine
ThrowawayPermanente 25 points 2 years ago
She kissed her brother once and her father is a known criminal, open your eyes sheeple
technocrit 2 points 2 years ago
More female storm troopers!
jordanlund 13 points 2 years ago
What are her policies?
itsgroundhogdayagain 12 points 2 years ago
Vader didn't blow up a planet. He didn't stop it from getting blown up but he was more of an accessory to it.
FlyingSquid 36 points 2 years ago
Trump didn't stop Jamal Kashoggi from getting murdered with a meat saw, so I guess they're similar that way.
Unbecredible -8 points 2 years ago
Was he particularly in a position to stop that?
FlyingSquid 18 points 2 years ago
Stopping him from getting murdered by the Saudis? Maybe.
Done something about it afterward? Definitely.
Big_Boss_77 12 points 2 years ago
He did do something about it... he blew up an Iranian General...
/s
Objection -10 points 2 years ago
Yeah, all he did was help Palpatine build the Death Star, and it was Tarkin who actually gave the order. Do these anti-Vader people even understand what his role is as Sith Lord?
These single-issue voters who refuse to vote for Vader just because of the Aderaan issue are just helping Palpatine. Why does everyone suddenly care so much about Alderaan anyway?
davidagain 9 points 2 years ago
Humorless and missing the point deliberately as usual, I see.
Meanwhile in the real world, Trump explains how he regularly phones up Netanyahu to convince him to ditch Biden's ceasefire plan.
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Objection -12 points 2 years ago
And Biden pretends to be upset about that while overriding congress to send him more weapons, completely unconditionally. Just like how he's been unconditionally supportive of Israel his entire career.
Don't confuse your conspiracy theory cope that Biden or Kamala are secretly pro-Palestine, contrary to all their actions and statements, with "the real world."
At a certain point, arguing that they're legitimately trying and failing to rein Netanyahu in, when he's completely dependant on our protection, means arguing that they are so absurdly and comically incompetent that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the levers of power for fear that they might slip on a banana peel and catch themselves on the button that launches the nukes. They're not idiots, they're doing it because this is what they want.
davidagain 8 points 2 years ago
I love how you talk so much about the Democrats as if the Republicans wouldn't be worse and as if Trump hasn't admitted to phoning Netanyahu frequently to tell him not to agree to Biden's ceasefire plan.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie 9 points 2 years ago
No, Elon Musk is Leia and Trump is Han Solo. I'll link you the fan fic.
FlyingSquid 29 points 2 years ago
That's okay. You really don't have to go to the trouble. You really don't have to.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie 12 points 2 years ago
I think you're going to like the part about Luke and Leia's kiss though. I'm not going to spoil it though, ok I can't help myself ::: spoiler spoiler Rudy Giuliani is Luke :::
WingedObsidian 1 point 2 years ago
Brilliant
LifeInMultipleChoice 1 point 2 years ago
That's what rebellions are built on! Or was that rebelling... Nope, it was hope. Almost forgot
ZILtoid1991 3 points 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure that the Death Star is just a big expensive toy, and the force doesn't exist.
FlyingSquid 5 points 2 years ago
My parents wouldn't buy it for me!
Okay, it was probably the most expensive playset Kenner made, but is that an excuse I ask you?!
Edit: Well shit, the retail price was $17.99. What the fuck, mom and dad?
freddydunningkruger 4 points 2 years ago
Don't forget inflation.. in today's dollars, that actually would have cost them $78.13, not $17.99
FlyingSquid 6 points 2 years ago
Pff. Whatever. I know the truth is they didn't love me enough.
RampantParanoia2365 2 points 2 years ago
What if it taught you it was OK to explode planets?
FlyingSquid 3 points 2 years ago
Galactus already taught me it was okay to eat them, so it's fine.
FlyingSquid 7 points 2 years ago
Good thing the genocide part isn't the joke then.
FlyingSquid 5 points 2 years ago
Take a look in the mirror.
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davidagain 18 points 2 years ago
Nope and nope.
Guess who's ringing up Netanyahu telling him not to agree authenticity the ceasefire? Yes, that's right, the nation's most popular insurrectionist and peace hater, Donald J Trump, and guess whose geriatric genocidal actions were not mentioned by you at all in a heroic act of something I'm sure psychologists have a name for, yes that's right, it's that loony loopy idtiot former president, losing his marbles in public on the television, yes, it's two for two, good old (well, ok, old at least), Donald J Trump!
davidagain 6 points 2 years ago
I think Trump has been ringing up Netanyahu regularly to argue against Israel agreeing to Biden's ceasefire plan, like he said he is, so Trump is working to keep the genocide in Gaza going and you can't bring yourself to admit this or talk about it while Trump felt admits it and even boasts of it in public.
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Gorillazrule 3 points 2 years ago
Why can't both be true? Sure. Trump tells Netanyahu not to accept the ceasefire. And when Netanyahu says no, rather than doing something to further pressure him, like making the munitions we send them conditional on a ceasefire, he just gives up and sends more bombs.
We've tried nothing and we're all out of options! We asked him nicely to stop and he told us no. :(
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Objection -3 points 2 years ago
I'll admit it right now. Not that it matters why Netanyahu is refusing to negotiate.
You seem to be under the impression that "negotiation" means "asking nicely and giving up if they say no." If Netanyahu refuses to cooperate, you stop giving him weapons until he does. Obviously. How bad do you have to be at negotiating to not realize that?
Alwaysnownevernotme 9 points 2 years ago
I'm sure Star wars fans will understand the nuance. Not like most of them unironically like stormtroopers.
Spikes lens
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JonsJava 3 points 2 years ago
Hey. Moderator here. Your attack on their intelligence is a rule violation. Please either delete this comment, or update it so you're not insulting somebody. If you don't in 2 hours, I will be forced to delete your comment. If you continue down this path, you will receive a temporary ban.
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davidagain -1 points 2 years ago
(I deleted that comment because I accidentally posted it twice. It's one of the other replies to your post.)
NYT thinks Israel has a massive stockpile of weapons, other suppliers and actually recently exported a record value of arms in the year containing the October 7 attack and the insane obliterative war that Israel launched in response. I don't think Israel is worried about running out of weapons any time soon, because they've opened up another front against Lebanon!
You know who could stop the war today? Netanyahu. Do you know who's telling him not to stop on the phone, on a regular basis? Trump. He even boasts of it.
taken in... grade A moron.... you're dumb.
I don't appreciate being called names just because you disagree with me, and I don't think it strengthens your case that you resort to that as a debating tactic.
AntiOutsideAktion 0 points 2 years ago
I'm not disagreeing with you about a matter of opinion or ideology. I'm disagreeing with you on a matter of basic critical thinking and awareness of the material reality of the situation. On the former you have a point. On the latter it's a disservice to the overall discourse to give you so much grace as to not call you an idiot. Your views on this matter are not valid and there is a correct answer.
FlyingSquid 12 points 2 years ago
Yeah, you'd think that would be exactly what she wanted.
NewDark 4 points 2 years ago
Literally the whole first trilogy is an allegory for the Vietnam war where the US is the empire
NewDark 2 points 2 years ago
So Leia isn't a great analog. Maybe a Vader / Palpatine election would be closer to reality
I misread that, hold up.
The United States of America spends more money on it's military than the next 10 countries COMBINED.
The United States has ~800 military bases all around the world in foreign countries.
This doesn't sound like an empire to you?
AntiOutsideAktion 1 point 2 years ago
Well you're wrong
technocrit -2 points 2 years ago
Leia was leader of the imperial police?
Y'all can't distinguish between movies and reality.
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eskimofry 6 points 2 years ago
So your argument is that everybody is evil and thus we should give up voting and thus ensuring that there is no hope for democracy vs. Accepting even 1% chance that this election won't change our future for the better?
electric_nan -2 points 2 years ago
Lol removed for "misinformation". I'm saying that a system that produces genocides, no matter who you vote for is a lost cause. It sucks, it's depressing, and I don't fault you for coping with it however you see fit. For myself, well, I can't explain myself too well without sounding like I'm insulting you, but I won't sign my name in support of someone who looks an awful lot to me (okay mods?) like a genocidal monster.
AntiOutsideAktion -12 points 2 years ago
How the fuck do you cast the democrats as having no agency
dream_weasel 11 points 2 years ago
How do YOU force them to have agency but let Republicans do whatever the fuck they want, then punish lefties for it?
AntiOutsideAktion -11 points 2 years ago
What the fuck are you even talking about right now?? The democrats are in office!!
YeetPics 4 points 2 years ago
Yea, everyone knows that when one party is in office all the opposing party members go on vacation until a president from their party is elected 🤡
You're an absolute idiot, the parties comprise the government regardless of who's POTUS.
dream_weasel -9 points 2 years ago
Who do you think is president right now? I know you probably wish it was Putin or Xi, but let's just focus on the US candidates as they are, even if its hard. And let's be clear: neither is a lefty, but one is much, MUCH closer than the other.
TrueTomBombadil 8 points 2 years ago
I'm pretty confused. Can you read? Antioutsideaktion is saying the Dems are currently in power... I'm sure he knows Biden is president right now. That's why the question asked was how can you cast the Democrats as having no power? Because they have power now.
UnderpantsWeevil -15 points 2 years ago
Your options are The Trade Federation or the Old Republic.
Count Dooku or Senator Palpatine
And stop asking what happened to all those Younglings. The Trade Federation would kill far more Jedi if they were in power.
MirthfulAlembic 3 points 2 years ago
I know this isn't the point, but The Trade Federation were a Neimoidian megacorporation that was a member of the Confederacy of Independent Systems, which Count Dooku founded.
UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 2 years ago
I agree that making real life comparisons to fantasy characters can quickly become silly.
UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 2 years ago
Yup
UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 2 years ago
A big theme of the Prequel Series (and a reason for its insurgent popularity) stems from the strong anti-war themes.
The Old Republic became the Empire as it was consumed by the mass militarization of its greedy, self-righteous, and power hungry elites.
The Jedi fell into Palpatine's trap when they surrounded themselves with Space Cops, foolishly believing endless escalation made them safer.
orrk 2 points 2 years ago
yet you seem to forget that the entire clone war era was a government that had become largely pacifist and demilitarized suddenly needing to deal with racist space turbocapitalists, leaving them scrambling and reliant on Palatine's indoctrinated space cops to stop the literal corpratist takeover of the galaxy
UnderpantsWeevil 1 point 2 years ago
the entire clone war era was a government that had become largely pacifist and demilitarized
The Jedi were plenty militant as needed. And the drone armies of the Trade Republic were clearly in regular production and use. Then you had the Mandalorian Wars, which had left the Galaxy with a sizeable contingent of heavily armed and armored vagrant mercenaries. And the Outer Rim continued to be a shit-show all through the Republic Era. Hell, the Gungans had (relatively) advanced planetside military.
I don't see anything in the Star Wars cannon to suggest the Republic was pacifist. What fueled the Clone War was simply the outward facing private militaries and commandos and space wizard super-soldiers coming back to the imperial core to duke it out on home turf.
leaving them scrambling and reliant on Palatine’s indoctrinated space cops
Which were pitted against Dooku's army of literal killer robots (which Palpatine also helped commission and field).
"Ah, but if there had just been a third standing army!" doesn't solve the problem. Because the problem was, at its heart, the endless ratcheting of tensions and the failure of the Jedi (specifically Obi Wan and Anakin) to achieve a ceasefire, acceptable terms for surrender, and a new peace.
Jedi wouldn't have been embedded in crowds of space cops to begin with if they hadn't been trapped in a spiraling expansive endless war that collapsed democratic rule and created the Imperial Galactic State.
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Leate_Wonceslace 20 points 2 years ago
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jaggedrobotpubes 11 points 2 years ago
What's the temperature in moscow? I could look it up but heck, you're right here.
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HuntressHimbo -20 points 2 years ago
I must have missed the part of the movie where Leia devotes a significant amount of her planets resources to building the deathstar while her constituents screamed for her to stop
pimento64 41 points 2 years ago
Evidently you did, because it's mentioned that she was a member of the Imperial Senate right up till it was dissolved. She participated directly in the government that built a weapon of mass destruction and used it to commit a genocidal act of state terrorism. Thankfully, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they never invented purity testing so people like you weren't wrenching their spines in an effort to suck their own dicks about it.
FlyingSquid 16 points 2 years ago
She was still in the senate when her ship was captured by Vader at the beginning of Star Wars.
Leia: I'm a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.
Vader: You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor.
zephorah 14 points 2 years ago
Michelle Obama made a speech on this. Trump is not getting demands. She is.
Mr Concept of a Plan after 8 years isn’t pushed at all. Meanwhile, we need more details on the articulated plans of Harris. It’s quite the mismatched standard.
Also, Biden is her boss. She’s not the boss yet. New bosses do different things with the company when they take over.
Objection -1 points 2 years ago
She was working in government with the intention of making things better
She was literally working for an armed rebellion actively fighting a war with the aim of overthrowing the government.
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HuntressHimbo -8 points 2 years ago
Well you would have to have a spine to know what thats like so I understand why the people bravely tonguing the asshole of the administration lying to us and circumventing Congress to continue arming their pet dictator's ethnic cleansing wouldn't get it
FlyingSquid 23 points 2 years ago
I see that you understand that, much like a vice president, that is something someone with the powers of a princess can do.
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FlyingSquid 26 points 2 years ago
Since you're having trouble understanding what is being made fun of, I can help you.
A genocide is not being made fun of.
To find out more about what is being made fun of, I recommend a mirror.
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FlyingSquid 19 points 2 years ago
Again, genocide is not what is being made fun of. You are what is being made fun of.
And it's pretty amusing that I've had to explain that to you twice because you didn't get it the first time.
Edit: Also, you think Princess Leia's name is Princess Leila. LOL! You're right, laughing at you does bring me joy.
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Leate_Wonceslace 12 points 2 years ago
2 hour old obvious burner account. Definitely not a Russian asset, nope nothing like that on lemmy.
FlyingSquid 10 points 2 years ago
Oo. I should have noticed it was a troll account. I'll alert the mods.
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Leate_Wonceslace 2 points 2 years ago
People who have 0 interest in something aren't likely to do it without being prompted. So are you being paid? 
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Leate_Wonceslace 3 points 2 years ago
"I'm not Russian asset, it is they (the people with coherent arguments) who are paid to speak.
JustZ 1 point 2 years ago
I've been in and out of politics for a while and I've never heard of this job.
Could you please point it out to me in the DNCs financials?
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Leate_Wonceslace 3 points 2 years ago
Abstentionism supports genocide.
LifeInMultipleChoice 3 points 2 years ago path: 0 13189689 13191343, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
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Leia made ableist remarks about a storm trooper once. Both sides are the same!
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