Former president Donald Trump claims US presidential election as count continues

2 years ago by zero_gravitas to c/worldnews

If Donald Trump is successful, he will be only the second US president to win non-successive terms, following in the footsteps of Grover Cleveland who did it in 1884.

In short:

Donald Trump has claimed victory in the US presidential election, saying his political movement is the greatest the world has ever seen.

The Republican candidate swamped his Democratic rival Kamala Harris in critical swing states.

What's next?

The Republicans were on track to win both chambers of congress, too, paving the way for Trump's agenda to be enacted in full.

spudsrus 43 points 2 years ago

Well fuck...

Every time you think Americans aren't going to fuck up the easy choice they find a way to surprise

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CTDummy 27 points 2 years ago

Welp, I said I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened but damn; how disappointing. Dark times ahead for the US and likely the rest of us I think. Would absolutely love to be wrong though.

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veroxii 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah just off the top of my head that's probably it for Gaza and Ukraine. Unless Europe and the rest of us grow some serious spine soon.

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muntedcrocodile -19 points 2 years ago

Harris supports israel just a much as trump no way in hell u can blame trump lol.

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NoneOfUrBusiness 10 points 2 years ago

Honestly, as one of the most pro-Palestinian people around here, nope. Trump, unlike Biden/Harris, feels no need to pretend to be doing anything to stop Israel, and in fact would be representing his voters by giving Israel more money and support. Things probably can't get much worse for Gaza, but Lebanon has dark days ahead of it.

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zero_gravitas 4 points 2 years ago

Trump, unlike Biden/Harris, feels no need to pretend to be doing anything to stop Israel

The pretending is in some ways worse.

In practical terms Biden/Harris have given the Israeli government everything they wanted. Harris is participating in a genocide. Nobody should have voted for her.

But the Biden/Harris Whitehouse paying lip service to humanity/sanity (including ceasefire) seems to have given a lot of people a fig-leaf to vote for a génocidaire, and more generally to go about their lives as if their government is not committing genocide.

See also 'kids in cages'. There's a sizable number of Americans who, it seems, can only see the atrocities their government is committing when there's a Republican in the Whitehouse.

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guismo 4 points 2 years ago

zero_gravitas posted a very educational video showing younger biden saying "if there were not an Israel, we’d have to invent one" and "the best 3 billion dollar investment we make". So I don't think he has a history of even pretending to stop them. It will be the same thing again, as it has been with almost every US president.

I remember having the luck of being in front of a tv when, before trump won for the first time, I saw him complaining about why american money goes to israel and if he wins he would stop that. At that time I knew his position would change completely once he was elected. But if anything, the crazy orange candidate has a much better history of being "against" israel than the other senile, though in the end it made no difference. Both supported them as much they could, and the girl would do the same.

But the fact that she showed them support just makes it worse. At least people who voted trump for the first time could be fooled into thinking he would do something about israel (if they ignore all his other insane promises).

So, you don't have to worry. Israel wise I don't think anything changed and the genocide would not be worse (as it can't anyway) if trump lost.

Edit: I can't find his post, but here's the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZs-v0PR44 Lovely leaders they have there. Not that Australia fares much better with military issues, but at least we are not so powerful, therefore not so dangerous.

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muntedcrocodile -1 points 2 years ago

Why u such an advocate for em? Its clearly not about minimising human suffering else u would be concerned with any of the multitude of numerically more harmfull things.

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lemmy_get_my_coat 9 points 2 years ago

You utterly stupid, racist, sexist, trashy fucks. This is going to be so horrible for everyone. Fuck you.

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Makhno -13 points 2 years ago

Suck a lemon?

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Ilandar 4 points 2 years ago
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sola 4 points 2 years ago

Federal Labor must be getting nervous about next years election. Neo-liberlisim born of the 80's is dead and the biggest flag bearer of this is Labor. Aligning slightly to the left of the right-wing rejection of neo-liberlisim is not a winning strategy in theory nor in practice. If is wasn't for Dutton next election Labor would be gone for sure.

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maniacalmanicmania 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think Dutton is the blocker to a Coalition victory many to the left of the Coalition thinks he is.

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eureka 1 point 2 years ago

Honestly, they should be. Even their rank and file members have been betrayed. As for supporters, the CFMEU fiasco gave many people in my union's chat rooms cold feet, with the pro-Labor peeps in disbelief they would do what they have, and that's on top of the Party's active complicity in the Middle East conflict. Labor have mirrored the US Democrat Party in many clear ways. The main difference I see in the situation is that is much easier for Australia to swing left instead of right, since we don't have the same FPTP spoiler effect in our federal voting system, so they can't just fearmonger over the Coalition to scare the socdems and socialists into joining them.

It will be interesting to see how the Victorian council elections pan out as a litmus test, interestingly in NSW council elections the Labor Party lost 26 seats, with the Greens gaining 8. That's just surface level looking at numbers but its enough for me to wonder if Federal Labor are worried.

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WaxedWookie 1 point 2 years ago

It's almost as though if someone wants the right, they'll vote for the right rather than the pale imitation that's buying into the Wright's framing where they can't compete rather than campaigning for something worthwhile.

There's a reason for this though - As long as our ruling class' material interests are aligned with the capital class (and with it, protection of policies like negative gearing), this is the choice we'll get.

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Anticorp 1 point 2 years ago

Ew, gross!

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