That post seems to be missing.
CriticalMiss 153 points 3 years ago

Americans don't know it yet but even the third world has better internet speeds than they do.

path: 0 1779733, hotness: undefined, score: 153, children: 3
IDatedSuccubi 43 points 3 years ago

And it's dirt cheap

Before the war in Ukraine I had stable 1 Gbit/s for 5$/month with two dedicated IPs

Here in Ireland you get 100 Kbits/s sometimes because they can't pull you a fiber connection and 4G towers are overloaded to hell, and it costs 20-40€/month

path: 0 1779733 1781882, hotness: undefined, score: 43, children: 0
webjukebox 15 points 3 years ago

And without data caps.

path: 0 1779733 1782705, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 0
madcaesar 1 point 3 years ago

Canada is even worse.

path: 0 1779733 1817602, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Virkkunen 105 points 3 years ago

It's funny how out of touch with reality Americans are.

Here in Brazil I'm paying around 20 USD for fiber optic 1000mbps down and 500mbps up without data caps. Brazilian law also only considers piracy a crime if there's profit (i.e. trying to sell a movie I've downloaded), so there's no need to hide anything.

Editing for more information:

My home internet speeds almost never drop below 90%, there's also a law that requires ISPs to deliver at least 80% of what was paid for. You can easily port forward, there are no blocks or anything. We also have dynamic IPs, but you can easily get around that by using a DDNS.

My mobile plan is around $15, I get 45GB monthly with 5G at no extra cost (5G gets around 300-600mbps down depending on the time of the day), unlimited calling to any number in the country, unlimited SMS (nobody uses SMS though), and for roaming I get 1GB daily internet and 1 hour daily calling with no extra cost.

All of this is cheap and very accessible to everyone.

path: 0 1779893, hotness: undefined, score: 105, children: 6
ex_06 35 points 3 years ago

Out of touch also in feeling like it’s funny to post this shit

Even if it was true, would still be a cringe meme.

I hope that OP is just young and naive and not an old who thinks the world is divided like that

path: 0 1779893 1780123, hotness: undefined, score: 35, children: 1
mr_right -7 points 3 years ago

point taken however Brazil in not most 3rd world countries there is also most of Africa ( with south Africa being an exception )

path: 0 1779893 1780123 1780843, hotness: undefined, score: -7, children: 0
mr_right 8 points 3 years ago

dynamic ips can be sometimes a good thing like when downloading from file hoster that have a timer limit

reboot router, refresh page, profit.

path: 0 1779893 1781357, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
captain_samuel_brady 3 points 3 years ago

I mean, I’m not going to defend our internet in the US which can be absolutely shit, but salaries are quite a bit different in Brazil. I also don’t recall internet options being all that glamorous an hour outside of Porto Alegre.

path: 0 1779893 1782374, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 2
Virkkunen 10 points 3 years ago

While the salaries and economic power in Brazil are a lot lower than the US, our internet and phone plans are a lot cheaper, accessible and provide a better service than most of the US, that still stuck in data caps, feature blocking and low speeds.

path: 0 1779893 1782374 1784977, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
ZeroHora 6 points 3 years ago
path: 0 1779893 1782374 1782737, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
dustyData 89 points 3 years ago

Lol, some third world countries have faster internet than the average New York apartment.

path: 0 1778407, hotness: undefined, score: 89, children: 2
teft 24 points 3 years ago

I've got gigabit here in colombia. Costs me ~$30 a month and fuck that vpn shit since no one cares if you torrent.

path: 0 1778407 1780457, hotness: undefined, score: 24, children: 1
aeki 3 points 3 years ago
path: 0 1778407 1780457 1782481, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
PeachMan 36 points 3 years ago
  1. American internet is garbage, as others have already pointed out.
  2. The term "third world country" is outdated, inaccurate, and usually offensive. It often comes off as racist, even if that's not intentional. Try to avoid using it unless you're sure it's appropriate (it almost never is).

What that designation OFFICIALLY meant is that the country remained neutral during the Cold War. That's all! The "First World" countries were NATO allies and the "Second World" countries were the other side led by the Soviet Union. The implication is that the countries that didn't pick a side in the Cold War were underdeveloped (which is a flawed assumption, but it was partially correct AT THE TIME).

More recently, the term has become synonymous with "poor" countries, usually those filled with non-white people. Which is dumb, because plenty of the first- and second-world countries WERE and ARE very poor. And some countries that WERE under-developed during the Cold War have since become more developed. India is the most obvious example, it's surpassing China in a lot of population+economic metrics now.

tl;dr "third world country" is a designation that's not only offensive; it's outdated, inaccurate, and dumb.

path: 0 1786747, hotness: undefined, score: 36, children: 1
VonReposti 17 points 3 years ago

Case in point: Sweden and Finland were Third World countries.

path: 0 1786747 1787273, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 0
spez 27 points 3 years ago

Man, I literally have one of the cheapest internet in the world + don't need vpn, third world country W

path: 0 1779683, hotness: undefined, score: 27, children: 4
mr_right -12 points 3 years ago

what about upload ?

path: 0 1779683 1779794, hotness: undefined, score: -12, children: 3
Amcro 15 points 3 years ago

I’m paying 25€ for 600/300

path: 0 1779683 1779794 1780047, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 1
imAadesh 4 points 3 years ago

INR500 (=USD6.25) per month for 200mbps up and down

path: 0 1779683 1779794 1780047 1780279, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
spez 2 points 3 years ago

we don't need to care about upload since it's generally direct download and not torrent here.
Edit : the up/down ration seems to be 2.4 : 1.4

path: 0 1779683 1779794 1786211, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
dewritoninja 26 points 3 years ago

Me literally seing this through fiber in a third world country

path: 0 1780309, hotness: undefined, score: 26, children: 0
peachybuttcheek 23 points 3 years ago

Meanwhile in Romania:

✅ No VPN needed ✅ Some of the fastest internet speeds in the world ✅ $10/month for FTTH 1Gbps ❌ No money to build a PC that can play the games you downloaded

Can’t have it all though.

path: 0 1786962, hotness: undefined, score: 23, children: 2
reNou 1 point 3 years ago

I know where to go for holidays next year, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

path: 0 1786962 1792854, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
angrymouse 1 point 3 years ago

same in Brazil, and a PC medium specs with a good monitor is probably not less than 5x minimum wage

path: 0 1786962 1793262, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
kadu 18 points 3 years ago
path: 0 1779793, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 9
spiderman 3 points 3 years ago

are you connectable though? third world country's isps often disable port forwarding unless you request it by yourself.

path: 0 1779793 1780305, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 8
kadu 7 points 3 years ago
path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780828, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
dewritoninja 4 points 3 years ago

Can't wait for ipv6 to take over

path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780691, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 2
spiderman 3 points 3 years ago

what will that do?

path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780691 1780715, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
dewritoninja 7 points 3 years ago

Ipv6 doesn't need port forwarding

path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780691 1780715 1781742, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
Virkkunen 4 points 3 years ago

I have never heard about this here in Latin America. If you want to port forward you can easily do it via your router, even the ISP's provided ones. There's also nothing stopping you from using the ISP router only as a bridge and handling everything from your own router, the ISP router only needs to receive the internet and nothing more.

The only thing about being connectable is that we have dynamic IPs, but you can easily solve that with DDNS

path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780849, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
Virkkunen 1 point 3 years ago
path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780813, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
mr_right -11 points 3 years ago

also even if there is high speed internet plans they are often expensive and not everyone can afford those ,and don't count on the websites info since most of the time the speeds are just an average taking into account business and companies internet speeds not just the average costumer and mobile data plans which are **mostly certainly inevitably caped **

path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780726, hotness: undefined, score: -11, children: 1
antonim 1 point 3 years ago

they are often expensive and not everyone can afford those

the average costumer and mobile data plans which are **mostly certainly inevitably caped **

I'm sure you know a lot about the pricing and internet caps across the entire world. 🙄

path: 0 1779793 1780305 1780726 1781234, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
dulce_3t_decorum_3st 15 points 3 years ago

Born and bred African here (third-world "shithole"): 400/200 ($60pm).

Uncapped obviously. This isn't 2005.

Probably wouldn't cost much more for 1000/200 but I wouldn't get to that with a wireless mesh setup in my house anyway.

path: 0 1785374, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 0
donut4ever 15 points 3 years ago
path: 0 1786756, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 0
xianort99 14 points 3 years ago

This meme is false.

path: 0 1780308, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
airbus 10 points 3 years ago

In Vietnam ISPs are pushing gigabit plans, we paid around 10.5$/month (⬇️1Gbps/⬆️150Mbps) or 14.5$/month for 1Gbps up and down. The speed is not guaranteed though, but reached gigabit most of the time, minimum is 300Mbps.

Of course no data cap and relaxed piracy policies, no vpn needed.

path: 0 1804509, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 1
maynarkh 1 point 3 years ago

Vietnam is technically not third world though.

path: 0 1804509 1812916, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
dsemy 9 points 3 years ago

I don’t live in 3rd world country, I get great internet speeds for cheap (1000d/100u for like 25$), and I don’t need a VPN.

The US just sucks lol

path: 0 1781217, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
amihan 6 points 3 years ago

YDKSA3WC

path: 0 1802001, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
skillissuer 5 points 3 years ago
path: 0 1782533, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
CapnAssHolo 4 points 3 years ago

American?

path: 0 1826214, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
bionicjoey 3 points 3 years ago

Canada experience is basically this as well. Our ISPs are trash but mine is pretty based about not sharing information with copyright holders

path: 0 1780280, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
dsemy 3 points 3 years ago

I don’t live in 3rd world country, I get great internet speeds for cheap (1000u/100d for like 25$), and I don’t need a VPN.

The US just sucks lol

path: 0 1781216, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
rafa 3 points 3 years ago

I seed around 5Tb per month, I pay 20€ for 1Gbps up / 1Gbps down connection.

I'm happy i live in a third world country

path: 0 1780959, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
pastermil 2 points 3 years ago

Ha! Speak for yourself!

path: 0 1781022, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Ozzy 1 point 3 years ago

Objection! Romania

path: 0 1780723, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
danwardvs 1 point 3 years ago
path: 0 1783351, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
rambos 1 point 3 years ago

Just curious... Why would VPN make easier to download/seed? I live in one of the shitty countries where most people who download pirated stuff don't even understand its not legal lol. VPN cant speed up your connection, but I got it anyway for safety (aka nerd behavior 😂). Speed is the same, only wallet is lighter

path: 0 1778289, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 8
darthsid 14 points 3 years ago

That’s not what the pic is implying. The pic is implying that yes, while third world countries don’t need vpn as their isps don’t care what they download, the downside of being in a third world country is the god awful internet speeds. It’s not saying a vpn would improve the experience.

path: 0 1778289 1778966, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 1
rambos 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah you are right. At least i made myself laugh haha. Hopefully few more 🤣

path: 0 1778289 1778966 1790537, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Sentinian 8 points 3 years ago

The meme is a good case of correlation doesn't imply causation. In countries where vpns are a must they might have better overall download/seed because of generally better internet. (Which also isn't always the case, plenty of places in the USA have just as shitty down/up

path: 0 1778289 1779218, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
mr_right -10 points 3 years ago

if you are sure that no one got in trouble for it before you probably don't need it

path: 0 1778289 1780132, hotness: undefined, score: -10, children: 0
mr_right -11 points 3 years ago

most of us pirates get our media by using torrents, in Europe and north America piracy is illegal ( downloading copyrighted material without permission is a better term ) and it is punished by law some countries gives huge fines and other can even jail you for it ( like USA ) but it is not the government who is in the lookout for these people but "copyright trolls" an independent companies pied by the copyright owner to extract settlement money from people ( essentially they go to people saying :"you have infringed our copyright so if you don't want us to sue you, you can give us i don't know .....50K $ to forgive you )

how they catch these people in the first place is by going to torrent trackers and logging IP address then figure out whose those IP address belong to,in some case they would go to the IP owners directly but mostly they go to the ISP and send them a letter saying "this IP address did a no no downloading our song that we want to go triple diamond💎💎💎" witch the ISP to avoid trouble forward it to you, and depending on the ISP they may do nothing afterward or ban your account after multiple infringements which if they are the only ISP in town sucks.

what VPNs do is that they mask your real IP address so they can't know who you are to sue you and if the VPN have a no logs policy they wouldn't know your real address even if they try to sue the VPN for it.

note that this does not apply to DLL (direct downloads from websites) as it does not count as evidence that you visited the website even if it hosts copyrighted material in most countries

i tried to explain this as simple as i could , also note that i omitted some details for the sake of simplicity

path: 0 1778289 1779780, hotness: undefined, score: -11, children: 3
Mugmoor 8 points 3 years ago

Incorrect. The only country in North America that has defined piracy as downloading is the USA. Thanks for lumping the rest of us in with them again.

path: 0 1778289 1779780 1780608, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 2
mr_right 2 points 3 years ago

downloading is the USA.

sorry looks like i have made a mistake

path: 0 1778289 1779780 1780608 1780920, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 1
bear_with_a_hammer 1 point 3 years ago
path: 0 1778289 1779780 1780608 1780920 1786092, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
frippa 1 point 3 years ago

Italy: the best of 2 worlds (except Im stuck with early 2000s adsl in 2023)

path: 0 1781087, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 2
mr_right 0 points 3 years ago
path: 0 1781087 1781249, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 0
mr_right 0 points 3 years ago

Italy: the best of 2 worlds (except Im stuck with early 2000s adsl in 2023)

haha me too

path: 0 1781087 1781270, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 0
kratoz29 1 point 3 years ago

You can download whatever you want without a VPN, seeding is another subject, all the ISPs here offers CGNATED only networks, the only way to bypass this is effectively with a VPN, a commercial one that offers opening the ports you want or using a personal one hosted in a VPS.

I have an IPv6, but last time I have checked that is virtually useless for seeding purposes.

path: 0 1787340, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Zal 1 point 3 years ago

I can relate. $33(USD) for 1⬆️/8⬇️mbps is what Orange is giving us in Senegal and. Fiber isn't available in my location. I'm not joking we have currently 0.6/1mbps for +$21 so I want upgrade to $30 bc I don't have a choice. Even my router bandwidth is < 80mbps max. I always download at night so maybe it would be great if you include your country and isp(Orange is the reference here) .

path: 0 1813667, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
wallmenis 1 point 3 years ago

As a Greek... I relate... :")

path: 0 1783096, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Shardikprime 1 point 3 years ago

Well yes but actually no

path: 0 1786070, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0

thanks for using Leebra!

go to feed...