The EU proposal to scan all your WhatsApp chats is back on the agenda
2 years ago by schizoidman to c/privacy
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/22814154
I add my voice to this request. Cough up the names.
To clarify: eMail, web chats, gaming chats, Signal, Threema and so on are affected as well
Federated protocols are not centralized in principle. It might not scale to one user-one server (which probably even Lemmy can't handle) but if you're signing up for a central server, you're doing it wrong(tm). Don't do that. The nice thing about Matrix client is that it allows end to end encryption, including groups. So that greatly limits what Mallory can do in principle. As to servers being costly to run, given what documented Synapse requirements are, you're looking at less than 5 EUR/month for a single server. Which can be shared among several users, obviously. This is in the same range as costs for a monthly VPN.
Synapse boasts about 50,000 concurrent users on a node. Ejabberd has been tuned to 2,000,000 concurrent users which shows how efficient & scalable the setup can be. €5/mo is a lot for many folks.
First I'd ever heard of OMEMO, thanks dude
I don't think Startmail will be affected. Ofcourse using Gmail is free pass to your data. But look at this https://www.startmail.com/ . I think if you also use Proton or other mailing services you're 99,9% safe. I sometimes play video games, some of my friends are kids who are cursing in gamechats. How will gaming chats be affected? Does the government have access already?
The americans seem to have figured out how to get change in relation to health insurance. Perhaps people might consider taking a page from the french history books to get some change on this issue.
The same French of whom more than a third want an authoritarian strongman in power? Personally I would prefer to copy the handful of boring countries where people actually trust their leaders and so don't feel they need to resort to bloody revolution at the drop of a hat.
A switch to what? To nothing?
You are severally over-estimating the computer skills of the general population. Here is some data on that.
However they want to do it, it will undermine a key principle of democracy and a human right: the right to privacy and private communication.
Just watched a video of Low level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRATnT577Aw
Although this is about the US this is EXACTLY the shit that will happen to this whole chat scanning BS
just don't use whatsapp? problem solved!
#returntoemail
Protonmail is definitely more private than google or Microsoft, but you shouldn't hold 100% trust in any provider. Ultimately your data is still on their hardware and they have control of it. Also, as others have pointed out, both sides need to be secure otherwise all that data is accessible on the other side.
You can mitigate it yourself a bit by hosting your own email server, but I highly recommend against that as its a massive headache to secure and basically every provider will reject your messages anyway.
protonmail is CIA https://encryp.ch/...
besides the above, their open support for regime change in China is NOT something a Taiwanese company would do. I live in Taiwan and have worked here for over a decade. Executives here try to keep their head down and just make money. They do not champion any causes.
but that's the beaury of email! people don't need to be on the same app to communicate with each other!
that arbitrary walled-off garden of whatsapp doesn't hamper anyone here!
Of course there are alternatives, that's not the main problem, it's the adoption by people not familiar or interested in tech.
I’m not touching an app owned by Meta. If people want to message me, they can use Signal.
Turns out, this policy has weeded out lots of useless conversations from my life. So, I see it as a win.
eMail is affected as well. There is no alternative. And mails are not private if not all participants use end to end encryption
Of course there are alternatives. That's the cherry on top of this crap pile: only regular non tech folks are affected. Nerds and actual criminals will just run an xmpp or simplex server and not care about the legislation.
Stop fear mongering, of course there is alternatives
Email is unencrypted.
Not if you use pgp
Or Proton/Tuta.
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