Schools are cutting bus service for children. Parents are turning to ride-hailing apps

2 years ago by MicroWave to c/news

The question of how to replace the traditional yellow bus has become an urgent problem for some, and a spark for innovation.

Summary

School districts across the U.S. are reducing bus services due to driver shortages and shifting transportation responsibilities to families, disproportionately affecting low-income households.

In Chicago, where only 17,000 of 325,000 students are eligible for buses, parents are turning to alternatives like ride-hailing apps.

Startups such as Piggyback Network and HopSkipDrive provide school transportation by connecting parents or contracting directly with districts, offering safety measures like real-time tracking and driver vetting.

Critics warn these solutions don’t fully address systemic inequities, as many families still struggle to afford or access reliable school transportation.

Serinus 87 points 2 years ago

It would help if driving a bus wasn't such a shitty job. "Okay, we're gonna pay you for three hours in the morning, then you'll have a five hour break, then we'll pay you another three hours. So it'll be an 11 hour day and we'll pay you for six of them. But you get a break!

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Semi_Hemi_Demigod 55 points 2 years ago

“Oh, and you get to deal with kids the whole time but with almost no power to enforce the rules. What do you mean you want a bus monitor?”

My kid could take the bus but doesn’t because they’re overcrowded and rife with bullying.

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Benjaben 24 points 2 years ago

Yep, that's been our experience. We have a niece who got a concussion from a bully (aluminum water bottle) and really nothing changed (so her parents had to find a way to get her off the bus). Two school years back and in a different area, there were so few drivers that my kiddo would come home at completely unpredictable times, anywhere from "on-time", up to 2 hours late, with very little communication. And we could basically see the school from our house.

Needless to say we no longer see the school bus as viable. Our society can't even get our kids to and from school in a functional way anymore. Things are really bad.

Edit: missed a word, grammar

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VeganCheesecake 6 points 2 years ago

I assume there wasn't a walking path even though the school was rather close?

Still sometimes shocked when hearing about how little public transport the U.S. has. I walked home by myself in my last year of primary school, then took the metro/bus in secondary school, which was pretty much normal.

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Benjaben 4 points 2 years ago

There was no walking path, no. There was, however, a huge stretch of unused farm land between the neighborhood and the school. The owners of the land fought bitterly to prevent access.

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 21 points 2 years ago

It's not that shitty, maybe. In the district where I work, we get $31 an hour (for about 5 hours a day), health insurance (the main reason I do it) and eventually a small pension. The break in the middle of the day is great since I can go for a bike ride and have lunch and a long nap, and I can take my elderly parents to doctors' appointments as necessary. In other districts it does suck though, since the pay can be much less (more like $18-22 an hour) with no benefits.

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FlyingSquid 8 points 2 years ago

I've heard of a lot of people who drive a bus for the health insurance. Maybe their partner has a decent job that can cover most expenses, but no decent health plan. It's an alternative for some. It shouldn't be, but that's another issue.

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Serinus 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah, there are certainly worse jobs. Just that getting paid for 25 hours while effectively being busy for 50 hours a week (with breaks between) is a huge drawback.

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kent_eh 9 points 2 years ago

When I was a kid, most of the school bus drivers were farmers who drove as a side job, and went back to doing their usual farm work during the middle of the day.

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SGGeorwell 46 points 2 years ago

It’s like no one anywhere wants to take responsibility for any of our systems.

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RagingRobot 28 points 2 years ago

They just blame it on the workers and say no one wants to work. Ignoring the fact that that has always been true and that the way to entice people to work is by giving them money. No one wants to share the wealth.

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zbyte64 12 points 2 years ago

Best we can do is accountability, as in we have an accountant cut fatter checks to our corporate leaders.

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CmdrShepard42 7 points 2 years ago

One of the benefits of big bureaucracy (whether public or private) is that it's super easy to shift the blame around so nobody is ever held responsible for anything and there's little accountability.

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SeekPie 41 points 2 years ago

America should really fix their public transport already.

Where I'm from, kids just take the regular bus, not a school specific one, because why should a school have their own bus system, when there's buses driving around anyways?

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modus 14 points 2 years ago

America should really fix their public transport already.

Say what's in it for the private corporations that ran it into the ground and America will listen. Won't you people stop for one second and think of the shareholders?!

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GissaMittJobb 9 points 2 years ago

Same goes for where I grew up/live - kids that live far away enough to not be able to walk/bike get free passes for public transit and take that to school.

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ThomasCrappersGhost 5 points 2 years ago

Time? Safety?

Here kids mostly walk.

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Sam_Bass 3 points 2 years ago

Out here in the ranch lands school buses are an absolute. Kids have to be up before dawn to get loaded up for a 5-10 mile trip one way. Parents could do it but they would have to drop the kids at the schools a couple hours before they open in order for those parents to make it to work on time

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SeekPie 1 point 2 years ago

But why should the bus be the school's responsibility when you can have regular buses that take kids to school while also moving everyone else to where they want to go?

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Sam_Bass 2 points 2 years ago

Out here your so called "regular" buses are anything but. They require an appointment with a set time in advance and last I looked was $50 per person per trip. Not the best idea. Given that here in Texas a tax cut was passed last year that reduced school taxes for many districts, I can see some of them adding fee for use to their fleets.

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SeekPie 2 points 2 years ago

Damn, where I live, 1 hr bus ticket is 1.50€ for non-residents, 1€ for residents and 0.60€ for everyone under 18 and free for kids under 7 and pensioners (also free for families with 4 or more kids) that come every 10-20min (every 10 min in the mornings and after work/school, 20 min at any other time).

There are also period tickets, like unlimited rides for 30€ per month or 225€ per year (which also have discounts for residents).

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circuitfarmer 40 points 2 years ago

Will taxes that used to cover bussing go down? Or is that money just going into pockets while the common person pays even more to get their kids to school?

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Serinus 13 points 2 years ago

Well, we just voted down all the levies to build new schools. So it's not like the schools are getting that money.

(If funding stays the same but students double, they have less money.)

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CmdrShepard42 11 points 2 years ago

Not in Chicago that's for sure. The city where you have to pay an 'entertainment tax' on your Netflix subscription.

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FunnyUsername 3 points 2 years ago

Yup.

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mx_smith 1 point 2 years ago

In Philly they pay the parents to take their kids to school

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Quexotic 27 points 2 years ago

This is why this family is getting into politics. Campaigning starts March 4th. People won't vote for the school levies and much of the state money is going to charter schools, but gotta start somewhere.

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dhork 15 points 2 years ago

s/driver shortages/districts not willing to pay drivers enough to put up with snotnosed kids/g

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pearsaltchocolatebar 5 points 2 years ago

Not often I see sed in the real world.

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HawlSera 12 points 2 years ago

We really will sacrifice a thousand children before letting a single CEO get a papercut.

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LANIK2000 8 points 2 years ago

Shortage of bus drivers solved by a fleet of regular drivers. Lol. I'm at a lose for words at how badly managed the US is.

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Sam_Bass 4 points 2 years ago

Oh well that's gonna be perfectly safe yep

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Kazumara 2 points 2 years ago

I hope they don't just use Uber or Lyft. Otherwise we might see a sudden explosion of new driver accounts who happen to be online at 7 a.m. on school days only.

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Acters 1 point 2 years ago

Oh you bet this is what will happen. I've been seeing schools with a car drive line purposely built for people to snake their cars around before dropping off a kid. Massive amount of asphalt and suspension destroying speed tables/bumps and incredulously slow. So kids need to wake up much earlier to just even enter the school instead of the incredibly faster school bus. Why is this becoming more preferable? Well people are dumb and rather not buy fancier school buses that help the community and rather go into massive amounts of debt to not help "freeloaders" and feel not poor from the status symbol a car seemingly has for some good forsaken reason...

Now they are just going to get an Uber or Lyft ride to not deal with the unbearable time it takes to drop off a kid. Used to be only rich kids doing "skipping the bus" , now it's everyone, and now no one is "rich" . Just like that meme from the Incredibles movie, where syndrome said a similar phrase.

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BorgDrone -17 points 2 years ago

Or they could just bike to school like normal kids.

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njm1314 21 points 2 years ago

Oh just bike to school yeah that's easy. Because this is a country that's so very bikable.

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BorgDrone -13 points 2 years ago

Then fix that.

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Modern_medicine_isnt 10 points 2 years ago

And in the mean time?

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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 7 points 2 years ago

In the meantime children need to die for their utopia get with the program

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BorgDrone -5 points 2 years ago

Walk?

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257m 4 points 2 years ago

I do that currently do that but I doubt most kids would. Its pretty dangerous because of the bad infastructure.

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