They aren't.
It's just possible that he has too much power.
2 years ago by Flying Squid to c/politicalmemes
Catoblepas 8 points 2 years ago
Terribly optimistic of you to assume Tesla owners will take anything at all away from this other than how risky it is to rent out your Tesla.
SaharaMaleikuhm 31 points 2 years ago
Easy solution to your worries: don't buy a Tesla. All other modern cars also spy on you of course, but you should still not buy a Tesla. Ideally get a bike.
Zagorath 13 points 2 years ago
Tesla is the worst, but you should also avoid Kia and Hyundai. Which is a shame, since they make the best EVs, and as much as I'm a huge fan of !fuckcars@lemmy.world and urbanism, when you live someone highly car dependent, having an EV is at least better than an ICE vehicle in some small ways.
Incidentally, the best brands for privacy are Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Isuzu.
TwoFacedJanus1968 3 points 2 years ago
Along with your phone, laptop - everyone else's phones, tablets, laptops, doorbell cams - probably every security camera in every business that is connected to the internet. Every police car you pass on the road records your car's license plate number and maybe takes a picture of the driver...
jordanlund 31 points 2 years ago
The last question makes sense... if he was using Tesla charging stations, I would expect those to be monitored by Tesla.
jordanlund -12 points 2 years ago
Cybertruck isn't going to gas stations. ;)
electricyarn 13 points 2 years ago
Right... it's going to a charging station, which they already mentioned.
Passerby6497 7 points 2 years ago
A charging station is just an electric gas station.
eyeon 16 points 2 years ago
I'm not sure why this shocks people. It's definitely not new or tesla specific.
Does your car have an app that let's you see data from your car or do anything to remotely control it like unlock the doors? then that can be done by the car company that runs the backend the app communicates with.
It's also not limited to app based things, cars have had this since OnStar was a thing. It's just much more obvious these days.
Psythik 5 points 2 years ago
No cause my car is a 2004 350Z.
No privacy invading data collection; hell, it doesn't even have an internet connection. Just a 300BHP front-mid engine with near perfect 50:50 weight distribution, multi-link double wishbone suspension, hydraulic rack and pinion steering, rear wheel drive, LSD, and a six speed manual transmission. Everything a proper car should have; nothing more, nothing less.
TriflingToad 2 points 2 years ago
I read this in a 'sexy man TV car ad™️' voice lol
My car is a 2016 Kia Soul and it has Bluetooth which is essentially all I need other than a cupholder and some seats. I don't really carry much in it other than groceries, my school bags, and occasionally a unicycle.
krashmo 3 points 2 years ago
Most people have no idea how technology works. I'm guessing that's not as common on Lemmy as it is elsewhere. Still, if you asked a random person how a remote command from their phone to their car gets processed I doubt many would mention centralized servers controlled by the manufacturer. They'd just say "the internet" or "Bluetooth" or something like that.
BossDj 1 point 2 years ago
I agree. I read this same article yesterday and instead cringed because of blatant ass kissing. My bigger question is why does the CEO himself personally have to remote unlock the vehicle?
There's also a line in that article (ABC) that reads something like "The son of President Donald Trump and CEO of Trump Enterprises, Don Jr, had this to say on Twitter:"
TriflingToad 13 points 2 years ago
hypothetically a hacker (given enough time and effort, perhaps infinite monkey typing amounts) could force an update to Tesla's and make them all go petal to the floor. Or send them all to a specific location and honk their horn. It could've already happened and we just don't know what or when it will happen.* Hell, Elon himself could send 20 Tesla's full speed into someone's house to kill them because they called him dumb on Twitter and probably get off with just a fine.
*cyber security people don't scream at me for the logistics of this. It's just for fun, I know there are fail-safes and stuff.
BigTurkeyLove 11 points 2 years ago
Bet Elon Musk definitely giving girlfriends Teslas just to spy on them.
FlyingSquid 3 points 2 years ago
Are they usually remotely unlockable by the car company? Because that sounds bad.
EmpathicVagrant -1 points 2 years ago
That’s a third party with access, not the manufacturing brand though.
Maggoty 6 points 2 years ago
Corporate Governance
Get used to it kids because the regulatory agencies are on the chopping block. That means the only organization deciding how much lead is okay in your food is the giant corporation that makes it.
VolumetricShitCompressor 5 points 2 years ago
In a better world nobody would buy/drive his cars from now on. Not that it hasn't been clear for a while that everything happening in and around that car is public domain at Tesla HQ. Like with the footage of people dying and fucking in the cars that was sent around office.
FlyingSquid 8 points 2 years ago
Sorry, are you under the bizarre impression that the surveillance state is popular on Lemmy?
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Musk sent a powerful message to all Tesla owners with this stunt. I hope everyone's listening.
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