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TheKanzler 52 points 3 years ago

"Burial Fund - $3.00"

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 23 points 3 years ago

"Rent - $3.50"

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HiddenLayer5 2 points 3 years ago

To also live in a coffin.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 11 points 3 years ago

It's called "capsule" now.

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TempleSquare 47 points 3 years ago

"I owe my soul to the company store" song comes to mind.

Grew up in an old union mining town that had some pretty violent strikes in the 1910s and 20s. Didn't realize it was still going on other places into the 1940s.


Set local minimum wage law to median rent prices. And watch landlords/NIMBYS and employers fight each other. That's the only way to dig out way out of this mess.

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absentthereaper 25 points 3 years ago
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maegul 24 points 3 years ago

"St Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go, I owe my soul to the company store"

... That line still low-key blows my mind.

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WaterBowlSlime 20 points 3 years ago

That has always bothered me about the term "late-stage capitalism." It makes it sound like the problems of today are unique to our stage in development and not intrinsic to capitalism itself.

To a lot of people, it seems like the issue is modernity and the solution is to return to a more prosperous past. Like when we had segregation, or limited suffrage, indentured servitude or (more) slavery...

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CallumWells 4 points 3 years ago

The term "late-stage capitalism" doesn't make it sound like it's not intrinsic to capitalism to me, it sounds like that's the inevitable result of capitalism. Thus it means it is intrinsic to capitalism.

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WaterBowlSlime 9 points 3 years ago

This reminds me of the "toxic masculinity" discourse. Some people say that the term means that masculinity itself is toxic. Other people say that masculinity is fine, it's toxic masculinity that's the problem, hence the qualifier.

I've seen people use the term late-stage capitalism to advocate for like, Bush era politics so I don't think we're getting the right message across.

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PoY 3 points 3 years ago

I never thought of it that way, that's a good point

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intensely_human 14 points 3 years ago

I mean, if that’s late stage capitalism what do we have 80 years later? Later stage capitalism? Are people paying the company store like this today?

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polskilumalo 21 points 3 years ago

Directly visible and throwing you into debt? No.

But the surplus value you create and that you do not get goes somewhere, and that is not only funding your bosses business but also his yacht :^)

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HiddenLayer5 26 points 3 years ago

Instead of them paying you in company currency and owning the stores that accept that currency, they (the rich oligarchy) pay you in regular currency but own basically every store.

It's a mining town scaled all the way up, and we're in it.

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polskilumalo 16 points 3 years ago

You better start believing in cyberpunk dystopias.

You're in one.

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bobs_guns 4 points 3 years ago

Due to inelasticity of demand and artificially limited supply, the things we need to live will always cost all of the money that you can make, and there will never be enough of them for everyone to buy.

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HiddenLayer5 1 point 3 years ago

Also, they have no incentive to make it available for everyone because limiting supply is how they profit.

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DaDaDrood -15 points 3 years ago

Worse, central bank issued digital money. https://www.reuters.com/...

Not behaving? Can’t buy or sell anymore. Reached your carbon limit for this month? Can’t pay for that steak anymore, buy some soy beans instead.

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bobs_guns 1 point 3 years ago

soy beans are good though

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DaDaDrood -19 points 3 years ago

Soy beans are delicious!

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Halasham 11 points 3 years ago

This is still late-stage capitalism. Capitalism has persisted in opposition to effectively all Human well-being for centuries, since at-least the 1700s. So, it was still very much Late-Stage Capitalism in the 1940s. That we have yet to put this vile system out of all our misery yet doesn't modify which stage it's been stuck in for X period of time.

Further it's been Imperialism in the Colonial or Neo-Colonial style for how long now? Four centuries? Five?

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kaonashi 8 points 3 years ago
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taiphlosion 5 points 3 years ago

It's giving The Outer Worlds' Spacer's Choice 😬 if you know you know...

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SeaJ -5 points 3 years ago

It looks like they had a balance of $83 at the beginning of the week. They probably had to buy their equipment the previous period along with furniture and shit. I'm sure they paid very inflated prices for all of it. That is all bullshit of course but they are not going to be in debt the next week.

It's kind of fucked that they were charged a burial fund. If they died in the mines, the mine owner would tell their family to fuck off and pay.

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sabreW4K3 -20 points 3 years ago

Early capitalism was a couple thousand years ago, back when they burned down the library of Alexandria. This was just bullshit exploitation.

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GrainEater 27 points 3 years ago

capitalism has only existed for a few centuries

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sabreW4K3 2 points 3 years ago

You're totally right, I should've articulated that the culture/practice of putting capital above all else, started a long time ago, replacing the practice of lauding goods and the production of goods.

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sparkingcircuit 16 points 3 years ago

Didn't capitalism start 300-400 years ago? If I remember correctly, capitalism was born of the imperial nations of Europe (primarily Great Britain, France, and Spain), as private capital, now unrestricted from the guilds as under feudalism, expanded for increased control of their respective markets.

The United States, started only slightly after the major imperial powers of its day. In addition, it's geography blessed it with weak neighbors to the north and south, and fish to the east and west, allowing it to develop almost entirely unhindered from the risk of war destroying it's means of production. Furthermore, property rights were enshrined in its very constitution from start due to its status as one of the world's first a bourgeois democracies (widely believed to be the ideal circumstances for the development of capitalism). As such, the United States had one of the most mature capitalist economies in the world by this point. Even at this point it's form of capitalism is probably more mature than many capitalist nations in the third world are currently.

In all likelihood, the course of capitalism in the United States was reversed somewhat by a combination of anti-monopolistic legislation, an end to its pre-worldwar isolationist policies, and the introduction of new markets in the world economy due to need for many nations to rebuild after World War Two. As such, I think it reasonable to call this a consequence of a 1940s late stage capitalist economy.

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