Biden says federal government to cover 100% of costs for initial LA fire recovery

2 years ago by MicroWave to c/news

President Joe Biden on Thursday announced the federal government would cover 100% of costs of the initial federal disaster response to the Los Angeles wildfires.

Summary

President Biden announced the federal government will cover 100% of costs for initial disaster response to the Los Angeles wildfires for 180 days.

The funding includes debris removal, temporary shelters, and first responder salaries.

Biden declared a major disaster, allowing immediate aid access, and directed the Pentagon to assist with firefighting resources.

With 28,000 acres burned, five deaths, and mass evacuations, Biden urged Congress to provide additional aid.

FEMA is coordinating recovery efforts on-site.

AGD4 110 points 2 years ago

Just to confirm, there's no plan to subsidize the rebuilding of $40,000,000 mansions, right?

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Lemming421 49 points 2 years ago

I don’t know about the US, but in the UK, rebuilding would be covered by the homeowner’s buildings insurance.

Although insurance companies would probably try to claim it as an Act Of God to get out of it. Don’t know how that would go legally…

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brlemworld 33 points 2 years ago

I'm an Atheist. Act of God is nonsense. What does it even mean? It can mean whatever the fucking insurance wants it to mean and it's horseshit

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6gybf 21 points 2 years ago

Privatize the profits, socialize the losses…

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NiHaDuncan 19 points 2 years ago

I’m an atheist that understands that an act of god refers to any destructive natural event where the damage to property couldn’t have been reasonably prevented. And insurance companies detail exactly what is and isn’t covered per policy; it’s just that they can get away with denying coverage due to lack of oversight/policing of them.

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PlexSheep 7 points 2 years ago

I Germany we call it "Höhere Gewalt". While that can refer to something supernatural, it just means "higher force" and I think it does a good job as a term.

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bestagon 2 points 2 years ago

Isn’t that what insurance is for?

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brlemworld 0 points 2 years ago

You can't prevent earthquakes but they sell earthquake insurance.

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Clent 5 points 2 years ago

Read your contracts, the things that fall under this moniker will be listed.

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Lemminary 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah wtf with the religious taint. That's what I call all these stupid terms that creep into secular government and businesses because it reminds me of the Zerg's creep from StarCraft. Lol

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Aphelion 16 points 2 years ago
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Scolding7300 3 points 2 years ago
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aesthelete 8 points 2 years ago

I don’t know about the US, but in the UK, rebuilding would be covered by the homeowner’s buildings insurance.

A lot of these places were dropped from their insurance because insurance companies made the risk calculation.

Edit: https://www.cbsnews.com/...

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glimse 4 points 2 years ago

Acts of God are covered by homeowners insurance unless explicitly stated otherwise. A homeowner in the Palisades without fire insurance is.....playing with fire.

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Revan343 3 points 2 years ago

A homeowner in the Palisades without fire insurance probably doesn't have it because their insurance company dropped them, after doing the calculations and realizing how likely a fire was

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Maggoty 3 points 2 years ago

I haven't read the articles but there's a bunch of headlines that insurance companies were dropping a lot of houses in the Palisades area.

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Evotech 2 points 2 years ago

Very much depends on the insurance held

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Skates 1 point 2 years ago

Holy shit, if that's how they wanna play this, God's telling me to shoot some insurance fucks.

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Fedegenerate 2 points 2 years ago

Josh Johnson had a joke something like:


Luigi can easily get out of it by taking the stand and going:

I tried to call them, but I was on hold for so long that it just seemed faster to deal with it in person. I wanted to tell them I was crazy.


Obviously better phrased, better paced better everything. Incredible

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protist 26 points 2 years ago

FEMA provides assistance to make essential repairs to homes in some instances, but does not provide rebuilding assistance is my understanding. They do provide funding for temporary shelter and essential supplies, but those amounts are not tied to income.

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disguy_ovahea 8 points 2 years ago

No mention of rebuilding subsidies for homeowners. I assume they’ll be assisting with state-funded infrastructure after recovery as well.

Meeting with federal officials at the White House, Biden said the funds would go toward debris removal, temporary shelters, salaries for first responders and more for 180 days.

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MrNesser 5 points 2 years ago

Isn't that why you have insurance

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AGD4 3 points 2 years ago

For sure, it is. But in the likely event that insurance providers somehow deny the claim, the cynic in me expects the government to provide socialized support for the wealthy as soon as it can.

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Critical_Thinker 2 points 2 years ago

Because the wealthy are always made whole. It's only the working class who can't stand up for themselves who are generally taken advantage of by insurance agencies.

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just_an_average_joe 2 points 2 years ago

Rich tend to have power and influence. If biden wants to create a legacy for him and his associates (whether his kins or the party members), he needs to serve the rich people's needs first and foremost.

It is only rational that he does that. Isn't it?

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jagged_circle 21 points 2 years ago

Proof that there's always money from Uncle Sam to help the super rich.

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TheRealKuni 34 points 2 years ago

There are plenty of people affected by this fire who are not super rich. Something like 1 in 34 Americans lives in LA County, IIRC, and most of them aren’t super rich. Yes the Palisades area is pretty affluent, but not all of the surrounding areas are. What’s more, the effort to STOP the fire protects everyone.

Besides, most of who we think of as rich in LA is nowhere near the level of the ultra-wealthy whose wealth we should be redistributing. The 400 richest Americans have over $5 trillion in wealth. A-list actors and directors and movie producers are a drop in the bucket in comparison.

The numbers in this are now out of date because it’s from 2021, but it’s still worth looking at.

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jagged_circle 9 points 2 years ago

Oh, I'm not opposed to stopping the fires. the best way way to do that is to tax anyone burning fossil fuels out of existence.

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Critical_Thinker -7 points 2 years ago

Yeah! Don't hate the people who only have enough wealth to not work for the next several generations! There's even RICHER people out there!

The median home value in the palisades is $3,485,831. That's more than double the median lifetime earnings of an American.

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SpacetimeMachine 6 points 2 years ago

And all of the money they have is still dwarfed in comparison to only 400 people. I'm not saying their wealth isn't extravagant but most actors didn't receive their wealth from exploiting millions of working class people.

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Critical_Thinker -1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, they only get their wealth at the expense of hundreds of supporting staff who make next to nothing in a predatory industry.

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RememberTheApollo_ 22 points 2 years ago

Two co-workers of my other half lost homes, one lost a family member too. They are service workers, I can assure you they are not rich.

Perhaps you prefer everyone gets nothing as long as it prevents the rich from getting anything too? That’s some republican level thinking - y’know, where no poor people get any help because a freeloader or two might get something.

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Bgugi 2 points 2 years ago

I think the heart of the accusation is "initial" in the headline. We're all seeing a repeat of bank bailouts, ppp loans, etc, where the bucket is going to run out immediately before anybody who actually needs it gets a drop, and everybody else is going to end up footing the bill.

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Critical_Thinker -2 points 2 years ago

The difference between your service worker friends and their ultra wealthy neighbors is that your friends will likely have their insurance claims denied, delayed and defended. Meanwhile the wealthy neighbors will cash in on their multi-million dollar art insurance on top of the housing insurance, even if they managed to have their servants sneak the art out in their spare bentley.

Then next year when your friends are still scraping by on savings the increase in premiums will come in so they can help pay for the payouts that went the rich.

If they are lucky they'll get 80% of the value of the house paid out and nothing for belongings.

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RememberTheApollo_ 12 points 2 years ago

You didn’t answer the premise.

You prefer everyone get nothing in order to stick it to the rich?

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Critical_Thinker 1 point 2 years ago

Why even have middlemen that earn a profit for shareholders for property insurance?

My problem is with the system, not the little guys.

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Tedesche 15 points 2 years ago

Trump will let Cali burn.

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taanegl 7 points 2 years ago
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beefbot 13 points 2 years ago

B u better get them checks signed right now

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jaggedrobotpubes 13 points 2 years ago

Might as well make the last time it ever happens a good one.

Good call, Joe.

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Bahnd 6 points 2 years ago

Its so that 47 cant walk it back and hold the state hostage by witholding relief funds... Again.

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Maggoty 3 points 2 years ago

Then California withholds it's funds to the federal government...

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fitjazz 6 points 2 years ago

And here I am still waiting on FEMA to get their shit together and get me the money they owe me from over 3 months ago.

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Maggoty 4 points 2 years ago

Say what you want about him but the military is sending 10 water helicopters and every fire plane it has. There's also over a thousand ground personnel going to help. And if you've looked at the fire recently you'll see why, there's a real danger it breaks into the semi-urban area.

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tiefling 3 points 2 years ago

Trump would 100% be laughing while playing.the liar (lyre)

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Warjac 2 points 2 years ago

Isn't that socialism or communism or government over reach though? How can Republicans stand for this?!

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