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wise_pancake 46 points 2 years ago

I can tell when I’m being phished if my password works on the first try

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TachyonTele 9 points 2 years ago

Ok, that's pretty funny. Nicely done

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Buddahriffic 6 points 2 years ago

Step 1: find phishing site
Step 2: find/write brute force script that doesn't stop on successful login but has longer random delay between attempts (so it isn't obvious it's a form of a DOS attack)
Step 3: poison phishing site data

Use proxies from areas that would normally use the service the phishing site is mimicking.

Bonus step: in case the phishers use the same proxies source, make enough invalid login attempts to the actual service to get the proxies IP blocked so they can't use them to test the large number of invalid logins to find if any are valid.

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wise_pancake 4 points 2 years ago

I want to do this now...

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zurohki 28 points 2 years ago
  • Try to log in to my ISP's website. "Username not found."
  • Try the password reset link and put in the username just to see what happens. "Password reset email sent."
  • Email turns up. Click the link. Type a password. "Password reset successfully."
  • Try to log in to my ISP's website. "Username not found."

Jackie Chan confused meme

Edit: to be clear, I didn't put in my email address, I only put in the username. The system looked up the username and found the email address by itself.

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GooberEar 12 points 2 years ago

They have nothing better to do than store a decade's worth of password hashes so that every 90 days I have to come up with a completely new password that's somehow magically different enough from every other password I've come up with in the past 10 years and is at least 10 characters from each of the 4 holy categories.

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GrabtharsHammer 10 points 2 years ago

This can occur when you're entering the correct password, but there is a typo in the username you entered. Nobody spellchecks the username.

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Godort 17 points 2 years ago

It can also happen if your password expired. Active Directory is infamous for just locking accounts if your user doesn't change their password when they get the popup that it expired

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some_guy 5 points 2 years ago

My current employer has the worst password policies of anywhere I’ve ever worked. I hate it. It’s insane. I know I can install a password manager, but the one that’s approved isn’t the one I want to use so I just suffer.

I’ve been in tech for decades now, so the above statement (worst ever) is truly horrific to me. Especially given that the job is so great otherwise and I don’t want to move on.

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wreckedcarzz 8 points 2 years ago

Must have lowercase, uppercase, numbers, symbols, minimum of 5 chars, max of 8. No dictionary words, no reusing characters (one char instance only), no numbers in order (123), no letters in order (abc nor qwe), nor in descending order (987, mnb). Caps lock is a unique character that must be used. Password expiration every 28 days. Cannot reuse old passwords, remembers last 10 passwords. Cannot add a number or letter at the end that causes an ascending or descending pattern. Password field cannot be pasted into.

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some_guy 1 point 2 years ago

minimum of 5 chars, max of 8

That's bizarre. I've never seen such a narrow runway for password length. Sounds like hell for sure.

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5too 1 point 2 years ago

That pretty much narrows it down to MonthYear!

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MonkeMischief 4 points 2 years ago

My old job did this.

"Oh Monkeybutthair01,02,03 has already been used....Monkeybutthair04 it is."

password updated

SECURITY. 👍👍

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nef 4 points 2 years ago

It's actually impossible to detect someone doing this without storing passwords in plaintext, which is incredibly insecure.

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mtchristo 4 points 2 years ago

Don't get me started on captchas

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FartsWithAnAccent 2 points 2 years ago

Brutal truth: You entered it wrong that many times.

Yes, really.

No, I know: It's crazy.

Did you have capslock on?

Edit: lol, I get the angry downvotes but I promise you this happens all the time

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FartsWithAnAccent 11 points 2 years ago

That or you just being obligated to change your password.

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RememberTheApollo_ 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah, this. There are sites for some maddening reason that don't bother to tell you it's time to change your password, they just force you to reset it without telling you why. Gotta be some kind of lazy shortcut to do it this way and not prompt the user that a password change is required.

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FartsWithAnAccent 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe it was just time, maybe your password got scrambled because your account was compromised: They'll never tell!

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RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe for some. Government sites that I use do this deliberately (not accept your current password) to make you change it. Pretty frustrating the first few times it happened, but now I know that when this happens it's because of a password change requirement. It's been years and they still haven't just made a "time to change" prompt.

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Buddahriffic 1 point 2 years ago

It's frustrating but it does give information to attackers. If an attacker just sees the login attempt was rejected, then they have no idea if it was because the password changed, the user entered it wrong in the phishing form, the user realized it was a phishing attempt and gave garbage to fuck with them, the password expired, or if the service provider is on to them.

If an attacker sees "your password has been reset and you must set a new one" then they have some information that could be used to social engineer their way into the account. Especially if it's a work account where the email is behind the same password.

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MrAlternateTape 2 points 2 years ago

I've once had a user who managed to add a second keyboard layout by accident and switch to it on login. I found out when I reset his password and it still didn't work on the laptop of the users even if I typed it in myself.

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EchoSpire 1 point 2 years ago
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Kolanaki 2 points 2 years ago

Nah; this shit has been a thing since forever.

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