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entropicshart 154 points 3 years ago

As a longtime Apollo user, I would love to know when this hits Test Flight!

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TraceGallant 15 points 3 years ago

Go to her mastodon. You can request to be a beta tester.

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entropicshart 3 points 3 years ago

Just signed up - thanks for the tip!

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Lee 12 points 3 years ago

Same, I'd love to beta test.

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Freesoftwareenjoyer 7 points 3 years ago

Unlike Apollo, will this be Free Software though?

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entropicshart 9 points 3 years ago

Apollo did have a free tier and then a few paid tiers.

iirc, (I bought it many years ago), they had a one time Pro purchase that removed any ads and unlocked theming and such, and then the Ultimate which was a subscription to cover server costs of push notifications (although it did eventually end up having more features locked behind it).

While I personally did not go for the Ultimate subscription (didn’t really need the push notifications), I gladly paid for the Pro as it was well worth it IMO.

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WaterSword 9 points 3 years ago

I think they meant Free as in Open Source

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leamaya 1 point 3 years ago

So free as in freedom not free as in beer

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Freesoftwareenjoyer 1 point 3 years ago

It's not exactly the same. The Free Software movement is about user freedom. Open Source is a term used by corporations to avoid mentioning that users should have rights.

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SatyrSack 6 points 3 years ago

Libre, not gratis

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Freesoftwareenjoyer 2 points 3 years ago

Yes, I meant freedom and not price: https://youtu.be/Ag1AKIl_2GM

We want to be able to make sure the app doesn't do anything malicious (like spy on us) and be able to change it to fit out needs. Like we can with Lemmy.

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MargotRobbie 33 points 3 years ago

Artemis is a great name for the app by the way.

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Freesoftwareenjoyer 17 points 3 years ago

The sister of Apollo :). Except I hope this one will be Free Software?

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TempleSquare 6 points 3 years ago

Money = good things cost money to make

I hope the developer offers a way to pay to help out (like RiF having "golden platinum")

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Freesoftwareenjoyer 5 points 3 years ago

I didn't mean price, but freedom. If you are not familiar with the Free Software movement: https://youtu.be/Ag1AKIl_2GM

Lemmy unlike Reddit is Free Software. This means we can know what the app does (we can make sure it doesn't spy on you for example) and are able to change it to fit our needs.

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caffeinePlease 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it looks great, but this is such a nice touch.

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deadhead 1 point 3 years ago

This just blew my mind, I love it!

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ono 24 points 3 years ago

Any chance the Android build will make it to F-Droid?

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Teon 11 points 3 years ago

I also want it in the F-Droid repos.

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SpezCanLigmaBalls 19 points 3 years ago

Oh shit I'm in the screenshot!!

Im a Lemmy dude but this app looks awesome. Good job

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Zerlyna 4 points 3 years ago

You’re famous! 😁

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SpezCanLigmaBalls 6 points 3 years ago

I gotta go call my mom!!!

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DBT 18 points 3 years ago

Every app that ever gets created for this will be called an Apollo “Clone” or “copy” and twenty years from now people will ask, “what was so special about Apollo”?

You just had to be there I guess.

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GreenCrush 9 points 3 years ago

I'll be speaking this way about Relay on android.

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root 5 points 3 years ago

I love Relay, and will very much miss it

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brownpaperbag 2 points 3 years ago

I think I downloaded Relay in 2014 or 2015 when I was needing good mobile mod tools and it was the winner for me. Love that app!

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52fighters 5 points 3 years ago

RIF user since the beginning. I hope to see them work on something for kbin Lemmy but I'm still excited about an Apollo clone.

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bumbly 1 point 3 years ago

The Apollo dev isn't considering making his app compatible with lemmy or kbin?

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embecile 9 points 3 years ago

I think he might just be burnt out and stressed right now. Being accused of making threats, being lied about publicly, and having something you worked really hard on have to shut down because the people lying about you wouldn’t be reasonable has all got to take a toll.

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Kuro 17 points 3 years ago

Hoping for a RIF style theme, I really appreciated the simple information dense style it has

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Pixlbabble 3 points 3 years ago

Yeeeees

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Shortcake 17 points 3 years ago

Great job all involved! So happy to see people trying to make usability apps/features! The color indicators for chat are great!

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Lilkev 14 points 3 years ago

So far all of the dev work has been done by Hariette herself. Full credit to her, I'm just promoting it because it really looks quite great in my opinion.

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Jimbob0i0 17 points 3 years ago

Jerboa is definitely a little rough at present with how early the work is on it... it'll be great to have different options!

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electriccars 17 points 3 years ago

Please also take inspiration from Reddit Sync Pro!!! I would love an app that is taking the best features from both apps!

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Jode 5 points 3 years ago

Hard Second.

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Pillarist 2 points 3 years ago

I'm holding out for Sync for Lemmy, Lawrence got my hopes so high.

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joshuarupp 15 points 3 years ago

That looks great! iOS and Android? Can’t wait to try ut!

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Lilkev 17 points 3 years ago

Yep, iOS and Android! Also, all this work has been done in less than a week. It's crazy.

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joshuarupp 8 points 3 years ago

You just made my night! Thank you!!

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blahaj 13 points 3 years ago

This looks super promising! I love the inspiration from Apollo being a user for many, many years. Looking forward to a testflight/release :)

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JCreazy 11 points 3 years ago

The more options the better. I'm excited to try the Android version.

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buedi 10 points 3 years ago

Awesome! I am looking forward to it, and I love that it's made for both major platforms :-)

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Huschke 9 points 3 years ago

I hope it has the interactions I've come to love from Sync like "swipe a post away to return to the main feed" .

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subigo 9 points 3 years ago

I'm in the majority, but I don't even care if an app gets made (obviously I support it though). I used Apollo on Reddit, because Reddit's mobile design was complete shit. However, Kbin and Lemmy actually look great in a mobile browser, so I really have no need for a separate app.

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overzeetop 8 points 3 years ago

On iOS, the Lemmy web experience is temperamental at best and unnavigable at worst. Although you can put bookmark/icon on an iOS home page, there is no navigation option so that once you've linked into a thread there's no way to get back to where you were. Even in a (safari-underpinned) browser the website seems to be very finnicky with back and forth navigation into and out of content. To be fair, this is an iOS problem, not a Lemmy/kbin problem, but it still increases friction for the mobile user.

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entropicshart 3 points 3 years ago

An iOS app will also introduce a lot of native functionality for navigation, that a web app simply can’t support (swipe features, custom themes, quick multi account swapping, etc)

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Gsus4 1 point 3 years ago

On linux it's only slightly worse than old reddit and about as buggy as new reddit.

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Ado 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, no way the website can become a replacement for a proper app. It's kinda a nightmare even on desktop with threads populating in the feed randomly and trying to go back from a post.

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electriccars 3 points 3 years ago

I agree the Web browser is very similar, but IMO a dedicated app is going to be a much quicker and smoother experience.

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Karlos_Cantana 8 points 3 years ago

Sounds awesome! I'm commenting, so I can find this thread later. I can't figure out how to bookmark it.

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spyr0w 2 points 3 years ago

same here, dont mind me :)

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NumberedDuck 2 points 3 years ago

You can push a star icon which I’m assuming makes it a favourite or something so you can find the post again. Haven’t figured out where you can find it again. But tbh haven’t really looked for it yet either.

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davids_laughter 1 point 3 years ago

Haha same! I think it looks and sounds awesome too so far. But I can't figure out how to bookmark either.

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migratory_bird 1 point 3 years ago

Same

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porkins 7 points 3 years ago

Needs an option to move the arrows to the right-hand side so I can scroll with my thumb and tap the arrows with the same thumb. Also, needs a light mode, quick account changing, and community muting for when browsing All.

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hariette 29 points 3 years ago

Ive been thinking about customizations like that while working on it. I want localization, so everything already has right to left support. I can use that piping to help w moving arrows.

Also, youll be able to double tap to vote ;)

(Community muting is a must for sure)

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lifeishard 5 points 3 years ago

@hariette

One thing I hated about Apollo was swiping gestures. I don’t use them and they get in the way so many times. Sometimes, I didn’t even know that I upvoted/downvoted a post unknowingly! I can’t disable it coz I’m a freeloade so I have no complaints.

I just want to suggest that it would be nice if you give users an option to disable the gestures if the app has them.

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hariette 5 points 3 years ago

Noted, adding to my list of customizations I want to make 👍

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McBinary 5 points 3 years ago

I never used Apollo since I've always been an Android user, so I don't know what features will be inspired from it, so I wanted to ask whether there would be in-app browser support for links so it doesn't open other apps? And will there be plans for gesture navigation support like the Relay and Joey apps?

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hariette 15 points 3 years ago

I used Relay for a couple years way back. You betcha I’m gonna get as much as I can in smooth gesture interactions 👌

And yea, it uses an in-app browser. Will expose config for those who want that off, also.

Also, I heard a lot of great things bout Joey, so I gotta get my hands on it 👀

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McBinary 3 points 3 years ago

Alright, now I'm even more excited! Thanks a bunch for putting time into this.

Got a link to your alpha/beta sign up? I'd definitely be interested and trying it out.

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GiraftPunk 3 points 3 years ago

Joey was the best app, in my opinion. The big image previews (and full size by long press and holding for images and gifs) and marking read by scrolling past are two of the standout features

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Lilkev 5 points 3 years ago path: 0 308528 308529, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
GiraftPunk 1 point 3 years ago

Excellent suggestions. I would have the same ones

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couragethecowardlydog 1 point 3 years ago

If you use kbin on mobile and want this right now swap the layout to compact.

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pory 7 points 3 years ago

What makes this different from/better than Jerboa? I'm a (soon to be former) Reddit Sync user and Jerboa's a little feature bare but it does everything I did on Sync.

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wmrch 1 point 3 years ago

Jerboa is Lemmy only, is it not? There currently is no app for Kbin.

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pory 2 points 3 years ago

I'm viewing this kbin magazine(?) through an identity hosted on lemmy.world (and just double checked that I can post on these kbin-hosted communities through Jerboa), i'm new to this whole federated thing but isn't that supposed to be the point? I thought the protocol that kbin and other instances use was a standard with certain compliance and the whole "cross-federation" thing meant that as long as your "home" and the place you're browsing are buddy-buddy, you can sign in to whatever to look at whatever (and if you wanted your "home" to literally be a raspberry pi in your closet, it can be).

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Lilkev 5 points 3 years ago

So you're currently signed in to the lemmy.world instance. I am signed in to the kbin.social instance. I don't want to recreate my account over on a Lemmy instance just so I can use the Jerboa app or any of the other alternatives.

You are able to post and see posts from kbin due to federation, but you would not be able to log in to a kbin instance on the Jerboa app.

The Artemis App (the app in the OP) will allow users to sign in with EITHER a Lemmy instance or a kbin instance

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pory 4 points 3 years ago

Ah, I didn't realize that you couldn't sign into a generic app like Jerboa (that's not tied to lemmy.world specifically) with a kbin identity. Makes sense! Glad that that's a thing that future post-reddit apps will be able to iron out.

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retronautickz 1 point 3 years ago

While Lemmy servers and Kbin servers can and do interact with each other (and with servers based on other kind of platforms of the Fediverse) because both software use the ActibityPub protocol, they're, well, different software. And Jerboa only support servers based on the Lemmy software. Just like how Tusky works for Mastodon but not for Misskey.

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AnonymousLlama 5 points 3 years ago

It's taking shape, exciting times!

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SuperSpaceFan 5 points 3 years ago
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hiyaaaaa23 5 points 3 years ago

Neat. I’m in that discord and very exited

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naoseiquemsou 5 points 3 years ago

Can we help the project?

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AlbertMO2508 4 points 3 years ago

Now, let's wait for the Android one.......

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hariette 29 points 3 years ago

Developing as x-plat codebase. And we have an equal split of beta testers across platform. So wanna prioritize em equally!

in the coming weeks there will be some waves of rollouts to testers. Hopefully we’ll go public not far from there :)

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drumdonuttea 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 308264 308525 308692, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
AndreTelevise 2 points 3 years ago

Native apps? Because I sure hope so.

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Lilkev 11 points 3 years ago

It will be for both, friend.

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polaroid 4 points 3 years ago

And the race is on...

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MadWorks 4 points 3 years ago

Wow! This is really looking great.

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nostalgicgamerz 4 points 3 years ago

Pleeeeassse don’t require iOS 16 like another Lemmy app is doing…

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Spirou 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, that sucks about Mlem. Thunder and Memmy work "fine" on iOS 15, at least.

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minnieo 4 points 3 years ago

it looks so beautiful

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Dewa 4 points 3 years ago

Can't wait for this

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hiyaaaaa23 3 points 3 years ago

Very excited for this

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CosmicCraftsman 3 points 3 years ago

Yes! Can’t wait.

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cowvin 3 points 3 years ago

Definitely get it into beta as soon as you can. Many of us are happy to beta test.

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rephlekt2718 3 points 3 years ago

Looks great! Looking forward to being able to minimize already-read comment threads again!

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wheresyourshoe 3 points 3 years ago

Can not wait!

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HankJW 2 points 3 years ago

Great, thanks!

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lixus98 2 points 3 years ago

I wonder what api are they using for kbin

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torafugu 5 points 3 years ago

Hopefully the API is free, unlike what Spez is doing to Reddit's API.

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parrot-party 6 points 3 years ago

Well since no one is monetizing kbin yet, of course it's free. As to long term hosting costs, I'm hoping we go Wikipedia style and use donations.

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Xylia 2 points 3 years ago

The official one is disabled right now pending some work by Ernest.

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randomm 1 point 3 years ago

It doesnt support for user interactions at all, just reading

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couragethecowardlydog 3 points 3 years ago

I'm gonna assume scraping

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boings 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah she said in a post she had to build her own thing, so that's what I assumed

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balance_sheet 1 point 3 years ago
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Lilkev 1 point 3 years ago

I believe @hariette plans on adapting to use the real API once it is made public.

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worfamerryman 2 points 3 years ago

I think it looks great! I’ve been keeping up with them, but the name is great, too.

I’m happy to have an Apollo clone. Apollo was such a masterfully done app.

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reddit_sux 2 points 3 years ago

Never used Apollo, but great news to have multiple ways to interact.

About the app being proprietary or open source it shouldn't matter. The foundation is federated community, the ways to interact can be federated too. Mix of open source and proprietary.

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Jode 2 points 3 years ago

Is there a way to integrate the lemmy community browser into this to be able to Searcy communities across different instances?

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Phoeniqz 2 points 3 years ago

why is the number of upvotes displayed separately from the upvote/downvote buttons? Same also for the comment count/button

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Gazumbo 2 points 3 years ago

This is great, be able to access both Kbin and Lemmy from one app would be so much easier.

I know it's early days yet to asking about features but just wondered if you plan to have a built-in image/video/gif player so thay you don't have to external sites to view content?

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aquarisces 2 points 3 years ago

You love to see it - keep up the great work and would love to use it once it’s available!

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scrof 2 points 3 years ago

Great news!

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eee 2 points 3 years ago

awesome!

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Servatis 1 point 3 years ago

Awesome!

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supermurs 1 point 3 years ago

Signed up for testing!

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kbin 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 474432, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
ragepewp 1 point 3 years ago

So if this is the app what is the one that I downloaded already when browsing kbin from mobile web?

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Elegast 1 point 3 years ago

Isn't that just a link to kbin?

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Ado 1 point 3 years ago

Sounds like you have a web app that opens in a browser, but tough to know without context of linking what you downloaded.

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crunchypotat77 1 point 3 years ago

That looks good! Can't wait to try it out as soon as it hits test flight!

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mmmplak 1 point 3 years ago

Looking awesome! Apollo user here, so you know my excitement is through the roof!

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Velvet 1 point 3 years ago

Never used the og app dye to being an android user but I'll definitely give this one a shot.

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MrSebSin 1 point 3 years ago

Awesome, great job!!! Count me in for test flighting.

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Yoscooter 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 3838133, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
aquarisces 1 point 3 years ago
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LevelUp 1 point 3 years ago

Looks great!

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GiantBasil 1 point 3 years ago

That looks amazing. I never had the chance to use Apollo cause I'm an android user, in looking forward to it.

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darkstar 0 points 3 years ago

Oh my god this is gorgeous, I need to know as soon as its available!

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bumbly 1 point 3 years ago

Duuuuh 🤦 Thank you!

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gh0stcassette 0 points 3 years ago

This looks amazing, but is it IOS only? :/

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Rememo 8 points 3 years ago
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mjhagen 4 points 3 years ago

We’re truly a reddit replacement now!

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gh0stcassette 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah lol, it got cut off on mobile 😅

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