I would make a review thread but it seems like reviewers just started playing, so there aren't many yet.
outside of Apple arcade, I don't think Apple cares one iota about gaming. As evidenced by your observation. It's a huge market to miss, but they don't really seem to care. All they keep doing is adding old mobile remakes of games everyone has played before to their Arcade subscription nobody would ever pay for if it wasn't bundled into Apple one..
They've been investing way more in gaming lately, but I imagine their long-term plan involves setting up Apple Arcade as a premium brand for high-end titles in a way that might be undermined by promoting their "competition" now. Like if Apple promoted a lot of shows that were available on iTunes shortly before launching Apple TV+. No idea, though, I'm just wildly speculating.
I don't know, they are focusing a ton right now on re-releasing REALLY old mobile games, just with a plus symbol added to the name. That's polar opposite from premium high end titles. If they do want to go that direction they need to change course immediately!
Except it’s not available on Mac on day one. Larian hasn’t even announced when it will be aside from “at a later date.”
Update: Apparently, the Steam Discussions page has a post that lists it as September 5.
Unless it’s shipped to the App Store and not just Steam, they wouldn’t market it anyway. I don’t believe they publicise third-party marketplaces / appstores (which Steam arguable is).
What it runs on mac? What the fuck I'm never going to work again.
According to their listed requirements, yes. In practice, haven't tested myself but the M2 is a bit better performance-wise than their minimum card on Windows (a GTX 970, when the M2 is closer to a GTX 1060) so I imagine it'll work but not exactly with maxed-out settings.
I just love everything about this whole thing.
I love the game itself, what an incredible feat.
I love how almost naively passionate and nerdy the folks at Larian are.
I love how aside from a few AAA game developers trying to tell everyone that this masterpiece shouldn't set the new standard for RPGs (LOL) Everyone else just seems so happy these maniacs have actually pulled it off.
I love the freedom this game offers. So many permutations, over 170 hrs of cinematics, most of which the average player will never see. All so that the world can feel almost as limitless as the tabletop D&D. There were no shortcuts to this goal. I'm sure the tech is great, but fundamentally, this wasn't about clever technology, which can only do so much. It was about the herculean effort of 400+ people making content for over 6 years in some of the most indulgent over-engineering I've ever seen in a AAA title.
They could have rolled out the EA Act I a few years ago and it still would have been better than most RPGs out there. Instead, we get an Act I with 33% more content and 2 entirely new acts.
Got two kids under 4 and a demanding job so no idea when I'll get to play even. But I'm just so happy something like this has happened in this shitty, cynical industry.
It really has been a breath of fresh air. I rarely ever buy EA but I bought this one. Played 236 hours just in that and forced myself to stop because I wanted more. There's no DLC, just cosmetic stuff, they're out here doin it.
I can't wait to get home and play for the first time in a while.
Only 10 more hours until it is downloaded 😍
Edit: welp, it's already done lol. See you in a couple of weeks boiiiiss
One for me! I'm averaging 25-30Mbps. Took the day off of work for this lol
I slept in till 11 so it was worth lol. 35% left to go!
Took the day off of work for this lol
Bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for 'em.
For me it downloaded within 40 minutes with swings between 300-170mb/s
Was about an hour 20 total for me! Loving it so far! Except they forgot to remove the version number so it's always showing lol
can't believe it's so slow to download :'(
Seriously. The changes from beta have all been incredible (beyond the obvious [character options, et al], the cutscenes are slightly "reshot", gfx overhaul, voiceover content, etc.) and while I knew key points of the storyline, their delivery or even triggers were fresh to discover. I'm so damn excited to play this full release, I'm doing everything I can just not to run solo instead of getting the gang together for multi sessions. 😅🤘🏼
The friend group tried to play D&D over discord and it was like pulling teeth to get everyone online at the same time. I typically like having multiple players in games like this because it makes it more fun to actually play AS the character because we all have different motives/mindsets.
I'm doing a solo campaign first while I'm impatient, then I'll do a group campaign when everyone can actually get together.
Me too. 🤓 Shhh.
I really want to play with my kid, she loves DnD, but I was exploring one place and I opened a barn door to be greeted by an orc rawdogging an ogre. Can't have that stuff popping up with my kid playing.
Good review by Mortismal Gaming:
This guy specialises in reviewing CRPGs and his reviews are really good. Often he reviews games after 100% completing them
What kinks? 🤷🏼♂️
Fair assumption, though you might want to lead with that, rather than imply that you've made such a decision based on current issues rather than historical conjecture.
Instant buy. I would buy it due to them making divinity original sin 2 with zero idea about this game. So fucking excited to play it.
Unfortunately, I really really really want to play this with a friend of mine so I gotta find until he has a good slot.
Multiple profiles friend. One for your single play, one for your multiplayer.
Sure the gameplay is well tested (it has a overwhelmingly positive on Steam already from Early Access), but it's a huge game, and everything beyond Act 1 is brand new, plus many things in Act 1 have been changed (ex. one origin character was rescripted and recorded).
So while the gameplay and the implementation of the 5e ruleset is well known, the rest of the story and the journey is still mostly new, and that's a huge part of what will make people enjoy the game or not.
Just my few cents on why it's still important to see how it reviews. Mortismal Gaming is already reporting that there are some crashes, bugs in the release version, especially in the later acts (even if that is normal for a game of this scope, it's good to know).
That's the main reason i suggested the older stuff. You get an idea of what it's like without spoilers. It's what i did when i started hearing about it. I don't think it's a game for me just based on the gameplay.
That's good to know! I played a little during early access and couldn't get the controls down on Steam Deck. Probably better with m&k.
I have no idea what this is but after looking around I bought it. it looks amazing
How does it play on Steam Deck?
Have yet to try but I've read you need to turn on proton experimental for it to work. I've seen that people are getting roughly 30fps with medium settings and FRS. Also, the final release has gamepad support.
I'm probably going to give it a try later tonight and can update then if you're still interested.
Definitely interested, if you don't mind providing an update! I'm especially interested to hear how it plays on the gamepad. If it's not great I might just wait for a time when I can play on PC, but I'd love to jump on it on Deck if it turns out to be a fairly good experience!
Running pretty well for me 30-40 fps on mediumish settings. Gamepad works great. It also has cross save so I might pick it up later for ps5.
Are you getting texture flickering? Flickering for lack of a better term.
Good framerate. Running on medium but does dropping to low help?
That's fantastic! Thanks!
I'll report back tonight or tomorrow and let you know. Gonna binge on the main PC for a bit with some associates first.
Awesome. Enjoy! And thanks. 😁
Aight so you'll need to configure track pads to click on abilities during the turn based combat.
Framerate is good on medium bit there are clear issues with the filtering as textures seem to clip in and out layers per sprite (from foliage spites to the NPCs and players. The result is like a low grade flicker.
I'll bump it up to high later, but as we know Steam Deck likes to engage surface of the sun with a jet engine mode on AAA games high settings.
Liam wrote about his experience with Baldur's Gate on Steam Deck on GamingOnLinux.
I’d like to find this out too. My main computer is a Mac, so I will likely just buy it and try it out on there, but I hope it works cleanly on the deck.
I read just a couple of days ago that they’re committed to supporting the deck, but as of now I don’t see the supported icon.
I have had issues with some “works great” games - cyberpunk in particular has an issue with things like text size so I’ll try it with the deck hooked to a monitor and with a keyboard and mouse - but I’m hoping that BG3 will work out of the gate,l (so to speak).
If you never played the original Baldurs Gate games or the devs original Divinity Original Sin games then you are in for an absolute treat.
This game is basically Dungeons and Dragons with so many ways to play and have fun.
Imagine if you will a half demon and a Dragonborn walk into a bar. The Dragonborn is a bard and the half demon is what is called a Tiefling. The two are best friends ready to take on the world. They meet a dark elf who is a powerful druid that can turn into a spider and a dwarf who is also warlock. The four of them find themselves surrounded by bandits but fret not the Dragonborn sings his tunes to make the Tiefling stronger. The drwarf helps freeze them in place and the druid spins her spindly legs to eat the bandits.
Together they will save the world. Well if your brain imagines all that in your own way then welcome to Baldurs Gate 3.
I had the early access on Stadia 😭 will have to wait for the delayed Xbox launch now.
Indeed. They even refunded my Ubisoft+ sub costs which surprised the hell out of me. I got two controllers free from various deals as well, they are decent Bluetooth controllers now. I think I paid for a handful of months of pro that I didn't get back, but everything else was refunded.
Anyone comment on the general writing style? I didn't gel with the Divinity games. Loved the gameplay systems but found that the tone of the writing stopped me from getting sucked into the world unlike the original BG games.
RPGs aren't my style generally so I can't really put my finger on anything specific with storytelling but I can at least say , for someone that (unfortunately) finds it difficult to get into stories, I found bg3 much more intriguing and easier to get sucked into then divinity 2.
I'm also currently playing on a build from 2 years ago and seeing all the updates since then, I'm really exited to pick it up today and see how it's improved.
Aside from the writing style, it's much more cinematic than the div games. I'm finding it a lot easier to get sucked into the story
I think the writing is overall better than it was in Divinity Original Sin 2. The world is darker and more sinister.
That's great to read. I really like DOS2, but the dialogue tends to be a bit too nudge-nudge-wink-winky sometimes.
Yeah, that game was being silly at the beginning, but it got much darker very quickly. Some quibs here and there, and I got a lot of laughs, but that game wasn't all that funny overall.
I sadly have to wait for my partner to install her copy first as this is her only free day, and our Canadian internet is shit. I probably won't get to play until tomorrow evening. Hope everyone enjoys launch day
If you are using steam, you can just copy all the files from your device to hers. Then let steam validate the files and you are off to the races. My spouse and I do this all the time to save of bandwidth and time.
I started installing at like 11:05am and it still isnt done yet. Why do i pay for 100 dollar internet!
Cries in PS5
The month-long wait for the PS5 release is going to be torture.
Could be worse.
Glances over at the Xbox
I went ahead and bought it for the Steam Deck. Might buy it again for the PS5 next month if I really like it.
I've never played any BG nor DnD. I do know vaguely some basics about DnD. I got the game to play with a friend. How difficult is it going to be for me to get used to? Should I read up on anything beforehand? I play mostly single player RPGs like fallout, mass effect, and occasional turned based stuff like FF, isometric stuff.
You may want to read up on basic terms for D&D. Thus game relies heavily on that jargon to describe game mechanics.
For example AC is Armor Class and the value defines how difficult you are to hit. Not to be confused with Air Conditioning or Assasins Creed.
As with D&D there are no set-in-stone archetypes. A fighter can focus on throwing rocks to be ranged or a sorcerer can do their damndest to be a melee player. Classes and races do have innate traits that lend themselves better to other roles and synergies.
Air Conditioning or Assasins Creed.
Lmao.
Ok seems simple enough. I'm familiar with class based RPGs. I'll probably check out some getting started videos before diving in. Thanks a lot!
Assuming you haven't already, Jocat's "Crap Guide to D&D" series is an entertaining little primer! IIRC the most relevant one would be the character sheet episode, followed by the individual class episodes.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
It starts pretty gentle and has plenty of tooltips.
Ultimately as well like if you're in combat it's turn based, if you don't mind tabbing out to look things up every now and then I don't think you will run into too many problems.
Probably wouldn't hurt to watch a 5-10 minute D&D gameplay overview on youtube before though just so you know what to expect.
RPS has a vid up
Now just have to get through the workday first!
I've decided to wait for the PS5 version, but will definitely get it then. Thankfully, I still have FF to finish.
Does anyone know when the collectors edition is supposed to be shipped?
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Hardly any mention of this from Apple or their associated media, despite the fact that an AAA game launching a Mac port on day 1 is virtually unheard-of in 2023.
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