Mozilla Introduces Firefox’s First-Ever Terms of Use
a year ago by Sunshine (she/her) to c/technology
Yeah they're not going to do that until a few people leave the company. And they have no plans to leave.
And that's fine, I'll just use different browsers until they change their stance.
What's optimistic about telling a multi-million dollar company that if they don't operate with principles that I agree with that they won't get my business?
you mean opt in
No, I mean by default you are opted out.
that is called opt in -> you have to opt in to the feature
I remember reading a lot this past year about Mozilla fretting about their market share and trying to figure out how to grow their user base. Did I hallucinate that? Cuz their actions lately appear to be driving users away. Are they taking notes from Google or is there some other MBA making these brilliant changes?
Need more advertising in Firefox to keep pumping those exec salaries.
Also Fennec, iirc.
Fennec from fdroid, it's just Firefox built from source
very cool. thanks for sharing this. they even have an official flatpak.
Thunderbird really is terrible, but for some reason it never occurred to me to find an alternative. Just commenting here so I remember to look into Betterbird.
The primary reason I hated Thunderbird, was because it would always drop authentication whenever I tried sending e-mail from my Outlook address. Yeah I can see mail coming in for my Outlook e-mail, but I also wanted to send too and I always had to go over to Outlook and deal with the awful and confusing UI to send mail.
I had just tested BetterBird's capability by sending an e-mail from my Outlook address to one of my GMails and no issues. So, fuck Thunderbird.
Firefox main problem with profitability relevance. They need more people to get people to use their tools
So I just have two questions.
- How does this get new users?
- How does this help retention?
The only answer is it doesn't and we don't care because we're going to cash out.
I'm not running away, I'll still open Firefox tomorrow like yesterday because the browser landscape is terrible and the shadow of what Firefox was is still good.
But I'm looking for the disruptor because as questionable as a lot of the new smaller browsers are, there are people out there trying and it's going to happen.
I'm waiting for Ladybird
As long as they do it ethically, there's nothing wrong with that. That's also how Foss projects stay alive.
Zen has been really nice for the few days I’ve been using it. It feels real sleek and just more modern over all.
My computer is a bit old though and I wonder if there is something similar that is even lighter on resources. Zen is still pretty dang light though.
Same. I’m about done with all things big tech. As much as is possible at least. Orion it is! I also saw Vivaldi but I’m not super interested in all the other services that come along with it.
Bye Firefox. Boy we had some good times, huh.
I will stick with Firefox for the time being. One must not forget that Firefox provides the basis for all the alternatives listed here. Despite all the controversy surrounding Mozilla, I still think Firefox is the better alternative to Chrome. And I would like to support this at least until there is a truly free browser. My hope is that Ladybird will be a success. However, it will take at least another 1-2 years until development is so far advanced that it can be used as a browser for everyday use. Until then, I think we should all continue to support Firefox so that it doesn't disappear completely from the market.
I kind of wish browsers would use cooler names, not "ladybird". Look at Brave. Pretty bad browser, surrounded in questionable stuff, but pretty much estabilished userbase nearly instantly, and I feel like much of that success is simply thanks to a catchy name
ensuring that this way Firefox offers more data collection
I knew it!
Take my upvote, no honor to your house, though ;)
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I am very averse to companies breaking my trust.
Mozilla can win it back by explicitly stating what they are collecting, why they are collecting it, and making opt out the default.
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