Senate Democrats overwhelmingly reject restricting US arms sales to Israel
2 years ago by technocrit to c/politics
For the second time in the less than four months, the US Senate has resoundingly voted in support of continuing the genocide in Gaza by rejecting two resolutions aimed at blocking some $9 billion in weapons to the Israeli government.
Fascists support fascists and dictators. That's why Trumps only allies are Russia, NK, SA, Turkey, and Israel.
Genocide is profitable though. Ever consider that?
Good! We wouldn't Want to ALIENATE the REPUBLICANS who will NEVER Vote for Us!
WHY is it so fucking hard for them to take a hard line against genocide?? What the fuck. I feel like I’m going crazy watching this.
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That's exactly it. I just don't get it. Seems like a no-brainer to me, but apparently I'm wrong.
I guess it's about money? Or they still think that being against genocide will lose them votes in the future? Or something.
No, its profit. They're making big bucks on the weapon sales.
Over half of the US population is opposed to sending weapons to the Zionists.
In his speech, Sanders, an agent of US imperialism, observed that the US ruling class’ open support for war crimes in Gaza undercuts attempts by Washington to advance “human rights” arguments to justify US interventions and military actions around the world.
Does anyone know why this site refers to Senator Sanders as an "agent of US imperialism"?
This is very strange and makes it difficult to take this article seriously - which is a shame given the ongoing genocide.
It is a socialist website, they still love to be edgy no matter how old they are.
Because Sanders says Israel has the right to defend itself, refuses to call it a genocide, wants to send interceptors to Israel and blames the entire genocide on Hamas and Netanyahu insread of Israel.
It's worth noting that all of the 15 voting to restrict arms sales were Democrats.
These are the 15 Democrats that actually gave a shit about human rights and ending genocide:
Bernie Sanders (Vt.),
Richard Durbin (Ill.),
Martin Heinrich (N.M.),
Mazie Hirono (Hawaii),
Ben Ray Luján (N.M.),
Tim Kaine (Va.),
Andy Kim (N.J.),
Ed Markey (Mass.),
Jeff Merkley (Ore.),
Chris Murphy (Conn.),
Brian Schatz (Hawaii),
Tina Smith (Minn.),
Chris Van Hollen (Md.),
Elizabeth Warren (Mass.),
Peter Welch (Vt.).
Fuck every other Democrat and Republican Senator that voted to support genocide
So 15% of the senate, 30% of the partizan faction in the Democratic Party feels this way.
It may be that this is an issue that is large enough to be electorally relevant.
Compared to 61% of all constituents, 70% of just democratic constituents (as of jan 18 2025)
Both Hawaii senators voted for human rights and against genocide! I am pleased. At least we have a tiny sliver of civilization left in the US government. NM too, looks like. Good on you, NM.
Right. They should resign. So 100% of the organization can support Israel in peace. That'll fix everything. Good plan.
Better Plan: vote in representatives that represent you, and stop listening to those that make you feel warm and fuzzy. But, this is a harder plan. Requires the majority of voters to, you know, try.
Noted
Our government is full of geriatric fucks who are on the wrong side of history. Plus some younger ones on the wrong side. Basically none of them represent the will of the majority of young people. But it's fine, whatever, fuck it.
LOL. "but why do ppl not vote?"
usa is no democracy. it has always been a wet dream for greedy pigs.
throw them out. may the real native americans get their land back.
Hold on now, I think you're misconstruing the position.
It's not that they want everyone to suffer, it's that everyone deserves to suffer ... unless chosen by birthright/god to inherit at least 10x what constitutes lifetime earnings for the Middle Class.
You see, they were chosen to lead. Just like the kings of old. Why can't the plebs see that?
Sorry, Elon Musk has already copyrighted that move. You've been served.
Democratic leaders might not want everyone to suffer, but frankly it doesn't matter because their policies make everyone suffer anyway (among a host of other things, by giving legitimacy to fascists). The difference between Democrats and Republicans is one of degree, not kind.
Can you further explain how Democrat policies make everyone suffer and give legitimacy to fascists? I assume you're talking about old style corpo dems?
I assume you're talking about old style corpo dems?
Yeah pretty much. Now to slightly correct myself, while their history of curtailing civil rights under the cover of counterterror is certainly fucked up what really makes everyone suffer isn't what Democrats do; it's what they don't do. Democrats are neoliberals working under a mostly neoliberal status quo so frankly they don't need to do anything except maintain that while occasionally giving the working class breadcrumbs to dissipate activist energy, and now you should ask yourself: What is the (pre-2025) status quo? Is that not one under which everyone suffers? Real wages (until Biden) keep falling, people can't find homes to live, homelessness is at an all-time high, the climate crisis isn't going anywhere, etc etc. Most of the time Democrats aren't malevolent actors, but they're seatwarmers who via their very existence and addiction to power (and donor money) prevent the working class from seizing political power and effecting real change. They also fight anything resembling such organization (see: Bernie 2016 and 2020, Jamaal Bowman). Democrats have coopted leftwing politics and turned them into capitalism that will fuck you slightly less, so rather than a tug of war between progress and reaction you have reaction pulling and "progress" condemning it in strongly worded letters. Biden breaking the railroad strike (you'll see people saying that he gave them their demands later, but that's untrue) was also pretty horrible.
As for giving legitimacy to fascism you have surveillance laws, bombing brown people in the Middle East (both during Obama and Biden's terms), going after anti-Zionist protesters, adopting the Republican stance on immigration (including Trump's stupid border wall), never actually going after the fascists and of course touting bipartisanship and compromise with the fascists.
Edit: These are both non-exhaustive lists, as I only follow the general beats of American politics. You'll get far more exhaustive ones from American leftists.
I completely agree with all of this. Although, there are some outliers within the Democrat ranks (aside from the obvious ones who are all progressive's). I've been watching people like Jamie Raskin, Mark Kelly, Chris Murphy, Adam Schiff, Elizabeth Warren, and even Chuck Schumer (from time to time, and yes, fuck him for playing politics with crucial votes, not a fan of his) consistently fight against the oligarchy in various committee hearings and on the senate floor. I really think people would have a completely different perspective on a lot of sitting dems if they would watch cspan every now and then. That's not an exhaustive list, and again, it doesn't include any of the progressive caucus, who are all badasses. The reason I asked is because I'm growing increasingly tired of the narrative that all dems are seat warmers. A lot of them have been fighting a huge raging oligarchy monster for years and, IMO, that pushback is a growing movement. We just need more people to see that there ARE dem's fighting for working class rights and there IS strong messaging coming from a good chunk of the democrat party. We need to stop lumping them all together and give more support to the ones who are actually fighting for us.
Israel seems to own chuck and therefore Senate Democrats.
It is a coldly political calculation. The Dems are afraid that if they refuse to facililitate Israeli genocide, then American Jews won't vote for them. At the same time, MAGA Nazis will step right up and pledge to kill every Muslim in the Middle East, and sweep up every vote.
The Dems can't afford to lose a fairly monolithic voting block.
Alternatively both parties benefit from this genocide, which seems more likely
I dont think thats correct-- American Jews are a tiny tiny percentage of the population, about 2%. Then split that across repub and dem, and on dem side, split that number again across pro and anti genocide. Its much less than the muslim vote, which is more monlithic on this issue. So the dems lose more votes supporting genocide. About half of DNC money comes from AIPAC, is the real problem.
Valid observations.
However, many elections are decided by less than 1%, so losing an entire 2% block could hurt, and Jews tend to vote in higher numbers than the average.
But yeah, there are other factors at play, but the vote is always the bottom line, and the Dems can't afford to lose this historically reliable demographic.
losing the 1% jewish vote but gaining a much larger number progressives and muslim votes seems like a bad trade to you?
Just getting genocide off of the dem's platform would guarantee a win. Do Dems want to win or do they want AIPAC checks, is what the question becomes. So far they want AIPAC checks.
And are you saying that if the dems come out against genocide they will lose every jewish vote? So you think they all support genocide?
If I have to vote for mid term, likely third party. Then Democrats have that Pikachu face. They have been compromised
They have been compromised
That's exactly. They have been compromised by a foreign government.
"Democrats are completely different than Republicans, they want to help people! Anyone saying otherwise supports Trump and is a useful idiot!"
Adding this to the list of things Democrats and Republicans agree on, in 2025.
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Isn't it lovely that, in these times of polarization, division and conflict, all of Congress can come together and join hands in the common cause of genocidal slaughter of innocents.
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