UK creating ‘murder prediction’ tool to identify people most likely to kill

2 years ago by schnurrito to c/privacy

Exclusive: Algorithms allegedly being used to study data of thousands of people, in project critics say is ‘chilling and dystopian’
Karyoplasma 57 points 2 years ago

Guilty until proven innocent.

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nevm 13 points 2 years ago

It’s how the police view you anyway.

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SoulWager -15 points 2 years ago

Pretty easy to prove you didn't commit a crime that hasn't happened, no?

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LiamTheBox 10 points 2 years ago path: 0 16336100 16336707 16336796, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
Viri4thus 56 points 2 years ago

Oh, I've seen this one. where's scientology Tom in this episode?

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ExtravagantEnzyme 13 points 2 years ago

Or the bald predictor gals laying in water?

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disguy_ovahea 8 points 2 years ago

The precogs were FMM. They were named after famous crime fiction authors, Agatha (Christie), Dash (Dashiell Hammett), and Arthur (Conan Doyle).

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ka1ikasan 2 points 2 years ago

Didn't know that, that's cool!

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Jason2357 47 points 2 years ago

Data scientist here; there simply are not enough murders to model this, so they will need to use proxies for “likely” murderers (like any sort of violent crime). That means the model will very strongly target people who are over-policed (minorities) and those more likely to actually get caught and charged for things, and thus be in the training data set (poor people). It will also fail spectacularly for this purpose because even a highly accurate model will produce almost 100% false positives -again, because actual murders are so vanishingly rare. The math just doesn’t work.

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HumanPerson 47 points 2 years ago

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ThePyroPython 33 points 2 years ago

Let me guess: Palantir

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tavishwolf 32 points 2 years ago

I give it two seconds to turn into racism machine

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Junkernaught 2 points 2 years ago

And those two seconds are just the boot sequence.

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FriendOfDeSoto 25 points 2 years ago

Will this drive the first wrongfully accused person to suicide or will it just somehow, magically, target all brown and black people? Stay tuned to see how much taxpayer money gets sunk into this tool.

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quickenparalysespunk 22 points 2 years ago

apparently Uk govt has never played watch dogs legion, nor seen Equilibrium (C Bale movie), nor Minority Report, nor Richard III, nor read Brave New World, nor the billion other movies, novels, games, poems, songs, Banksy art, social videos, cave paintings, etc that specifically warned UK not to (re)become the villain (over and over again)

it's like the 2nd most popular culture topic.... after "love" or something

but noooo, just had to be edgelordsandladies.gov.uk

.........

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Fizz 7 points 2 years ago

"What can we do to improve society, I know I'll watch some dystopian SciFi for ideas" - the UK government probably

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AnotherHelldiver 2 points 2 years ago

Psycho Pass.

Another one to the list. Great anime. It's like if Blade Runner and Minority Report had a loving relationship and a beautiful child was the byproduct of this union.

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Kobo 1 point 2 years ago

Fuck around, find out, double down

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wise_pancake 21 points 2 years ago

Prediction: this gets used to surveil dissidents and minorities disproportionately.

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geneva_convenience 20 points 2 years ago

Healthcare CEOs at the top of the list.

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iAvicenna 11 points 2 years ago

if the model is working correctly it indeed must point us towards billionaires

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skrlet13 20 points 2 years ago

Psycho Pass called, you missed its point

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Zetta 9 points 2 years ago

"UK developing new hybrid non lethal/lethal weapon that will use murder risk prediction score to select operating mode. This amazing invention will cut down on police related deaths, learn more tonight on BBC."

I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

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PowerCrazy 5 points 2 years ago

I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

It literally always has been and that fact is why the US even exists.

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Zetta 2 points 2 years ago

Good point, didn't think about it like that haha

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Pirata 3 points 2 years ago

I swear the UK is as dystopian as the US and even worse in a lot of ways.

Why do you think they wanted Brexit? Now they can apply all their demented ideas to their country freely.

I, for one, haven't set foot there since Brexit officially concluded. Shame that I have friends there but, I hear it's becoming worse by the day anyways.

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AnotherHelldiver 1 point 2 years ago

Ah yes, the good old way of throwing electromagnetic waves at people after putting their cymatic scans inside a shared pool of neutrally and selected shared consciousness of dissected sociopaths brains.

I didn't have it on my Bingo card.

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JohnnyCanuck 17 points 2 years ago

They should make three, and they all have to agree, but if only one disagrees then maybe they can ignore it, call it the "minority account" or something like that.

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bigkahuna1986 2 points 2 years ago

The "less report". Blamo.

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considine 2 points 2 years ago

You're not going to believe this, but Tom Cruise... has identified you as an agent of Xenu.

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Pirata 1 point 2 years ago

Sounds like a great idea for a movie. I have the feeling it would become an instant cult classic.

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tocano 16 points 2 years ago path: 0 16357033, hotness: undefined, score: 16, children: 1
Dreaming_Novaling 2 points 2 years ago

I shit you not, my mom literally just was talking about that anime and joking about it with me last night. I think it's because we were talking about police anime.

Like if I knew Lemmy didn't have an algorithm, I'd think this shit was targeted.

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Kobo 11 points 2 years ago

What can go wrong?

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Chais 5 points 2 years ago

Right? No way this could possibly backfire. Unless, of course, that's the intended outcome.

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Tangentism 1 point 2 years ago

It's typical of the neolib Labour party.

They've recently reintroduced legislation for digital IDs, just as they did the previous time they were in govt (prior to 2010).

We also have police stepping up unregulated use of facial reignition camera on the streets

They are obsessed with authoritarianism.

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doingthestuff 10 points 2 years ago

There's no possible way this could go badly.

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Korkki 10 points 2 years ago

Will the British cabinet be automatically included on the list?

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UltraGiGaGigantic 8 points 2 years ago

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emberpunk 8 points 2 years ago

Welcome to our over-securitized late stage capitalist hellscape. All so companies can push out these bogus 'tools' and eat more of the state budget and profit like the crony capitalists they are. Not the first time. First as a tragedy, second as a farce.

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oakward 7 points 2 years ago

Is this turning into minority report in real life?

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somegeek 6 points 2 years ago

Major black mirror vibes

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13igTyme 1 point 2 years ago

Forget vibes, this is exactly like Minority Report.

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surph_ninja 5 points 2 years ago

So are they going to enforce ICC warrants?

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ryannathans 4 points 2 years ago

Isn't this the TV show Person of Interest?

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1hitsong 3 points 2 years ago

You are being watched...

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orphigle 3 points 2 years ago

I hope many of their politicians get placed high on the list.

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variaatio 3 points 2 years ago

Is it April fools? please still be April's fools, checks calendar, dammit, not April's fools still. It's actually news.

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JamesBoeing737MAX 2 points 2 years ago

Yay, concentration camps. My list of countries to live in is consistently getting smaller.

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OldChicoAle 2 points 2 years ago

I watch enough true crime to know that anyone is capable of murder

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deadcatbounce 1 point 2 years ago
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OhVenus_Baby 1 point 2 years ago

NBA Youngboy fans 😯

😂

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Tikiporch -1 points 2 years ago

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