Spread the Load! Join other Instances!

3 years ago by Xusontha to c/memes

Yes I know they're getting DDoSed, I'm just messing around

VikingHippie 110 points 3 years ago

Lemmynsfw: spread the load, you say? I just posted a video of that.

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crummysocks 11 points 3 years ago
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VikingHippie 32 points 3 years ago

Your username is one r away from demonstrating obvious bias when it comes to loads, though..

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lemann 9 points 3 years ago

Your instance TLD is my response to this comment thread

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VikingHippie 4 points 3 years ago

You're welcome.

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crummysocks 5 points 3 years ago
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VikingHippie 3 points 3 years ago

I believe you did, hence my updoot. doffs cap

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meanmon13 58 points 3 years ago

Stop flocking to the core worlds, join the fringe! We have the same amenities... Only downside is browsing by All is less diverse

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xusontha 27 points 3 years ago

Well, as long as the server is decently large enough it should be fine Like lemm.ee or sopuli.xyz

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FlihpFlorp 8 points 3 years ago

In my totally unbiased opinion you should join lemm.ee

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tron 8 points 3 years ago

No no no no no. We don't want to people to join and enjoy our near 100% uptime. Also be warned that lemm.ee isn't de-federated with lemmynsfw so you'll get PORN on your all feed. The horror. Steer clear.

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FirstMajesticComet 2 points 3 years ago

block the porn communities or disable NSFW, that's what I did (at least before lemmy.blahaj.zone defederated from them)

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deadsenator 8 points 3 years ago

Yes, Sopuli seems like a main server. Love it.

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travysh 11 points 3 years ago

I look at lemmy.world all occasionally to get a sense of what I'm interested in but don't know it yet. Then I subscribe to help expand the variety for everyone. Not that lemm.ee is all that small

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xusontha 9 points 3 years ago

lemm.ee probably has a virtually identical /all to lemmy.world, right? They've got like 20k users

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travysh 7 points 3 years ago

Virtually identical absolutely. But in my personal experience over the last few months, I see content that's in lemmy.world that's not on lemm.ee

For a while, because content was more thin, I'd run through all of active, then all of hot, then I'd look at lemmy.world just to see if there was content I hadn't seen yet

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remkit 4 points 3 years ago

Almost definitely, it's hard to imagine there's a community on lemmy.world that not one of the 20k users have susbcribed to

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remkit 6 points 3 years ago

Pretty much any of the top 5 instances already subscribe to each others communities. Definitely not missing out on lemm.ee either!

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remkit 8 points 3 years ago

One can easily get around that by simply subscribing to more communities!

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Reborn2966 5 points 3 years ago path: 0 2228061 2230196, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
jungekatz 5 points 3 years ago

What are the few fringes here ?

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xusontha 4 points 3 years ago

Check out lemmyverse.net and look at instances

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MyNameIsIgglePiggle 5 points 3 years ago

So I don't know enough about the inner workings, but on Reddit I never browsed all at all - it was 100% communities I'd subscribed to. At the moment I'm happy with Lemmy All, but if in the future when content gets too much, would I say, be able to host my own instance in my Android device and my subscriptions will just pull in the content I'm interested in? That way I am not putting load on other instances, and I can take my configuration with me without needing a cloud service?

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raptir 4 points 3 years ago

You can also just browse "subscribed" instead of all.

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AzuleBlade 2 points 3 years ago

My understanding is you can't host your own instance on an Android device, you'd need a server. You could stand up a server on Oracle Cloud, their Always Free tier is pretty generous.

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psilocybin 3 points 3 years ago

Content fringe world inhabitant here:

Why is our All tab less diverse?

Is it not just dependent on how many instances your instance is federating with?

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danielton 14 points 3 years ago

The main issue is that Lemmy instances, by default, only know about their local communities and remote communities that the users of that server have deliberately subscribed to. Some smaller instances are running federation helpers which are bots that search for remote communities to fix this.

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psilocybin 4 points 3 years ago

Thanks for clarifying. Makes sense

Good to learn about some of the piping underneath

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Stoneykins 6 points 3 years ago

All is based on what people on that instance are subscribed to most, not just federation

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psilocybin 2 points 3 years ago

Makes sense. It only pulls in what users on the instance subscribe to.

Thanks for clarifying!

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r00ty 3 points 3 years ago

You subscribe to individual communities. So unless a user or the admin already subscribed to a community there won't be any content there from those communities.

Even after subscribing only new content (and old content that has had replies/likes) will show up.

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Nemoychocs 2 points 3 years ago

Can you explain this? Why? If I follow the same communities that in the bigger instance?

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Sl00k 7 points 3 years ago

Your subscribed will be the same. All will differ as it grabs everything everyone on that instance is subscribed to.

Ex. If you're on lemmyworld you'll see everything there by default but if you swap to instance X and nobody in x is subbed to niche.community@lemmyworld then it won't be brought to your All

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Nemoychocs 4 points 3 years ago

Ok! I had misconception of “All” I thought that it shows literally All! Thanks for the explanation!!

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traveler01 56 points 3 years ago
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tja 26 points 3 years ago

Maybe it was spez 🤔 /s

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traveler01 20 points 3 years ago
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kmkz_ninja 15 points 3 years ago

Spending 100 bucks on your nephews to run some code on their home connections - Priceless.

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AndreyAsimow 5 points 3 years ago

Duck Spez

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wander1236 3 points 3 years ago

Quack

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stebo02 2 points 3 years ago
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maynarkh 21 points 3 years ago

Apparently it's a wannabe powermod who got banned after squatting a ton of community names. There was a post from the admins saying that he's creating garbage communities, with a quarter of all communities being those at one point.

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antik 4 points 3 years ago

Who you are talking about is indeed an option because he was genuinely pissed off.. He created scripts to create thousands of communities so we set up rate limits 😁 But there are plenty more who don't want LW to succeed. Be it banned users, defederated instances or just someone with too much time looking to take down the biggest instance.

There was also a (now banned) reddit mod who used to moderate gamingcirclejerk there and she demanded me to hand over the gamingcirclejerk community on LW to her. To just take it from the current team. I said no but I can be a middleman but she wanted none of that. She wanted the red carpet laid out 'because reddit mod' so she had the right to it 🙄 She was also a very known user on an instance we recently defederated with.

So just wanted to clear that up here. We have suspicions but no proof. Thanks for your support 🫶

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SloppyPuppy 10 points 3 years ago

Its the internet. What can be attacked will be attacked. Unrelated to opinions or hatred or anything.

site of only cute puppies pictures? if it can be attacked it will be.

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gerryflap 43 points 3 years ago

I just jumped to another instance. Feels good now that stuff loads again. This sucks right now, but it's probably good for Lemmy in the long run. Load should be spread across instances, and this forces people to move. I've also noticed that I now see some stuff that I couldn't anymore on Lemmy.world, so it's better overall.

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1984 8 points 3 years ago

Another one sees the light. :)

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Resistentialism 4 points 3 years ago

Due to me only really using my phone for 3rd party youtube and lemmy, I decided, after thinking the other day "if .world goes down again, I'm gonna create an alt just as a backup."

And then it happened last kigjt, so I've made 3 new ones, just as a safety backup. Now I've heard of LASIM. It was super easy.

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LaunchesKayaks 29 points 3 years ago

When lemmy.world goes down, I use the time it is down to do other things. Like read, spend more quality time with my pets, learn something new, or just go outside and touch some grass.

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Urbanfox 10 points 3 years ago

During the Reddit protest I got a professional certification. It's amazing what you can do when you're not doomscrolling...

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ech0 5 points 3 years ago

Lol me too! I got an AWS cert

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FirstMajesticComet 24 points 3 years ago

It's not a load problem though, it's because some loser is DDoSing the server. Doesn't hurt to move to other instances where it isn't happening but the real solution would be to find who's doing this so they can be brought to justice (or silenced from the internet forever, whichever is easier).

Please tell others to stop misrepresenting this issue, it is an attack, not a user overload problem and nobody who's misrepresenting it that way is doing anyone any favors except the attackers by presenting it as such. Instead it should be presented as what it is.

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Fish 23 points 3 years ago path: 0 2230199, hotness: undefined, score: 23, children: 2
jungekatz 4 points 3 years ago

Woah 29k new users on lemmy.world !

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1984 1 point 3 years ago

At this point I view it as a iq test.

/s

Just kidding... But you know what I mean.

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Nurgle 20 points 3 years ago

False alarm. Sounds like it’s a good ol fashioned DDOS attack.

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lemmy 19 points 3 years ago

Anyone is welcome to join my instance at endlesstalk.org. Its running on a pretty beefy server, so it can take a decent amount of users.

There are multiple frontends like lemmy.world and I have setup a seeder(lemmony), so the all feed should be pretty filled.

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donescobar 19 points 3 years ago

Honestly, given the current state of affairs I wouldn’t have it any other way.

The little time these turds spend attacking the site I call my mental health break from the madness.

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xusontha 7 points 3 years ago

That's smart lol All it does for me is make me think I'm going crazy when trying to subscribe to a .world instance for the first time right after it goes down, since it doesn't load

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Wilshire 18 points 3 years ago

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LongbottomLeaf 7 points 3 years ago

Yeah! Leave Gandalf's stash alone, smoke Saruman's instead.

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radioactiveradio 18 points 3 years ago

Spread the Load!

That's what she said.

Regards, RadioactiveRadio

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Zoldyck 15 points 3 years ago

That's why I made a second account

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VikingHippie 6 points 3 years ago

Same here. Probably gonna make this one my main now that world has gone on a defederating spree, make a third or both.

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Granixo 13 points 3 years ago

I'm from Chile so i joined through feddit.cl 🇨🇱

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Squids 5 points 3 years ago

I honestly I don't get why people don't just, y'know, join instances that are more local. It would solve the "everything's in a different language!" Issue too because now the main foreign language is, y'know, one you speak.

Or - yeah I did the same I joined a Finnish instance because I live right next door and it seemed like the logical thing to do and screw Denmark

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vsis 4 points 3 years ago

we are the best country of Chile.

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xusontha 2 points 3 years ago

I always enjoy finding new instances!

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Vash63 13 points 3 years ago

It doesn't help that the donation links still are just for Mastodon world, with no clear way to even find the donation links from Lemmy world. They put out a posting for sysadmins with part time hours for free... As a sysadmin I definitely don't have time for that shit. Maybe they could make the donation links more obvious and try to hire actual staff if they need help.

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lemann 16 points 3 years ago

Both sites are sharing the same infra IIRC, hence the donation links pointing elsewhere

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antik 3 points 3 years ago

They are different servers in the same datacenter and there is overlap in the teams.

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lemann 3 points 3 years ago

Thanks for the clarification 👌

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antik 2 points 3 years ago

Well you say that but we have plenty of sysadmins who applied and most of us are it professionals already doing this as a hobby project. I think we tackled that in our most recent announcement. If that is not for you that is fine.

The donations to mastodon.world are shared with those to lemmy.world. LW admin Ruud has been very open in his near-monthly blogs: https://blog.mastodon.world/

These blog posts are also announced on Lemmy World. I think it is all pretty clear.

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Vash63 1 point 3 years ago

It took me way too much searching to find that. Think about it as a user looking for a donation link, the website's drop down has a link to donate to Lemmy's codebase but nothing clear for Lemmy world.

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erasebegin 12 points 3 years ago

I joined another instance and it closed within 2-3 weeks...

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erasebegin 13 points 3 years ago

This seems to be a serious downside to this system. Anyone who values a persistent profile is putting their precious data in the hands of some random instance that may or may not go bust in the near or (perhaps worse) distant future.

I'm on lemmy.world because it's the most likely to survive

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KSPAtlas 8 points 3 years ago

sopuli.xyz has been around for years so it should survive

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Newchair 4 points 3 years ago

i think this is bring worked on, but in the meantime, you can still transfer subscribed communities with lemmy migrate

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Leer10 3 points 3 years ago

I'd love there to be a Trust on first use signed user record and a DHT of associated servers that would allow profile references to point to the most recently made user profile with the same key as the oldest one.

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Newchair 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah that would be ideal. That way if one instance is temporarily down you could still use your account.

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ALostInquirer 3 points 3 years ago

This seems to be a serious downside to this system. Anyone who values a persistent profile is putting their precious data in the hands of some random instance that may or may not go bust in the near or (perhaps worse) distant future.

Isn't this the downside to any system reliant on remote operators?

For any truly valuable data, the solutions remain the same, keep local copies, create backups, and store some backups offsite. As-is it seems like perhaps too many people rely strictly on offsite solutions as their singular data store, which is as bad practice as only having local backups, tbh.

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Spliffman1 3 points 3 years ago
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madcaesar 3 points 3 years ago

I hope you're donating

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elfahor 2 points 3 years ago

Why would one need a persistent profile though? This isn't Mastodon, here accounts are throwaway, just like on Reddit

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antik 1 point 3 years ago

You bet, LW ain't going anywhere.

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mrmanager 6 points 3 years ago

I'm never closing mine as long as it has active users. Please come if it's a good location for you - western USA. Performance and uptime is really good but you will have some network latency if you are on the other side of the world.

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antik 3 points 3 years ago

Mr manager 🫡

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mrmanager 2 points 3 years ago

:) Haha, I have had so many bad experiences with shitty managers so it's kind of a joke alias.

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csolisr 10 points 3 years ago

I'm doing my part! Like, I literally have a computer at home that I'm using as my own instance, couldn't be doing my part any further than that (unless I invite my family to join the server)

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xX_fnord_Xx 9 points 3 years ago

I'm going to spread the load so hard. :Sweat:

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TheFunkyMonk 9 points 3 years ago

So I’m totally new to federated apps and just joined the biggest one figuring it’d be the most reliable.

I understand the downside of all/local filtering being less useful on smaller instances, but I don’t use those anyway, so would be curious about a couple of things if anyone has advice:

  1. How would you go about choosing an instance assuming reliability/speed was all you cared about?
  2. Is there somehow a way to transfer the topics I subscribe to/content I’ve submitted to a new instance, or would I basically just be starting over if I switched?
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CheshireSnake 8 points 3 years ago
  1. Of course location is not a guarantee of fast speeds, but you can at least check servers nearby with https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/map. I guess you can check for uptime to have an idea about reliability, but I never really relied on that. Shit happens (vlemmy comes to mind) so it's hard to gauge an instance's future reliability/stability. You have the option to start your own instance as well.

  2. https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

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Reborn2966 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 2228656 2229277 2231017, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
TheFunkyMonk 3 points 3 years ago

This is great, thank you!

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CheshireSnake 3 points 3 years ago

Hope you find the right instance for you. Welcome to lemmy!

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SorteKanin 6 points 3 years ago

Choose a server that is oriented to your geographical location.

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gabe 9 points 3 years ago

If you like books & writing, mine exists (literature.cafe). I have the community seeding bot that runs every 24 hours.

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StorageAware 9 points 3 years ago

Yep! I made an account on my current instance after starting on one of the bigger ones. I still have my old one just in case. But now that some of the smaller communities I followed have started coming in it feels identical!

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xusontha 5 points 3 years ago

I also have an account on a larger instance, and I use this to back up settings and subscriptions Works on basically all platforms!

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StorageAware 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, I have heard of that and tried using it but I couldn't get it to run. I just ended up doing it manually as I didn't have that many communities anyways.

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frozen 9 points 3 years ago

Signups are open on my instance up to 100ish users. I run scripts to auto-federate popular content, so it's pretty bumping.

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xusontha 5 points 3 years ago

Do you use LCS or lemony? Just curious

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frozen 5 points 3 years ago

Both, actually.

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stark 3 points 3 years ago

I, personally, use Lemmony on my instance. It's a solid tool.

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ForgetReddit 8 points 3 years ago

I have been here for months and still have no idea what this means

That’s probably a bad sign

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mildpepper 12 points 3 years ago

The site you make your account on is your home server (instance). That server takes on the job of processing your data when you use lemmy. Your home server is lemmy.world, mine right now is lemm.ee

If a lot of people use the same home server, it gets expensive for the team running that server, the meme is about lemmy.world having issues with downtime because of this. You can have whatever home server you want and still access anything on the fediverse, so if you join a smaller instance as your home server, by literally making a new account on a different lemmy site, you can still use lemmy exactly the same (use your app to look at all instead of local) but spread the load so big instances like lemmy.world don't have too much strain. Doing this is good for the long term health of the fediverse.

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xusontha 7 points 3 years ago

Basically lemmy.world is the largest lemmy instance by a country mile, and so it keeps going down because of DDos attacks and just sheer load Maybe you haven't noticed because the client/app you use just shows old posts until it can connect to the server again

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glibg10b 8 points 3 years ago

I remember when it was lemmy.ml that was burning down. I might have been partly responsible for that

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ivanafterall 7 points 3 years ago path: 0 2228611, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 1
unreachable 0 points 3 years ago

please delete this cousin

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scrubbles 7 points 3 years ago

Sound off your instances folks! If you like pop music and

  • You want to create pop music related communities
  • You want to hang around other popheads

Come check us out at poptalk.scrubbles.tech. There are dozens of us here on Lemmy. Dozens!

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jungekatz 3 points 3 years ago

Would be happy to join if there are not too many things defederated , specially the big communities ? I need my memes ??

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scrubbles 3 points 3 years ago

I'm the admin, try not to defederate unless it's necessary, like too many trolls coming into our instance and NSFW, because then I'm hosting it and I can't do that.

But other than that I try to keep it open

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jungekatz 2 points 3 years ago

Getting a rate limit error when trying to sign up !

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scrubbles 2 points 3 years ago

apparently enough people were in fact signing up! I have it at like, 5 a minute so bots can't spam me. Raised it to 10, you should be good

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jungekatz 2 points 3 years ago

Well thanks let me check ur instance

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xusontha 2 points 3 years ago

You got 30 whole users! That's almost 3 dozen!

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j_roby 6 points 3 years ago

Public Meme Announcement

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cole 5 points 3 years ago

lemdro.id is always accepting new users

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antik 4 points 3 years ago

And fellow photon supporter 🫡

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cole 4 points 3 years ago

you know it! That guy is a beast. represent 🤝

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xusontha 3 points 3 years ago

I've got notifications for when a new release comes out and I normally get at least one a day, one time I got like 5 in a day The development is going crazy fast, and it's still amazingly good!

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Jenn 5 points 3 years ago

I already did! Now what?

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xusontha 10 points 3 years ago

Hope that .world stops going down cuz half the communities are on there lol

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samus12345 5 points 3 years ago

Didn't really have a choice if I wanted to use Lemmy!

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jaschen 4 points 3 years ago

make it easier to create an instance for us noobs.

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sounddrill 1 point 3 years ago

If there was a php solution, I would be hosting one

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antik 1 point 3 years ago

There is kbin

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antik 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 2242230 2262079, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 1
jaschen 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks man. I'm going to try and deploy on a free box I have here. I have a dedicated IP with the connection here so I think I'm able to do something with it.

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EqMinMax 4 points 3 years ago

I had problem with lemmy.world website today. But I had no problem with using sync app annd with same instance lemmy world.

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antik 1 point 3 years ago

Coincidentally after our Outage announcement we didn't get attacked for the rest of the day and night.

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Ataraxia 4 points 3 years ago

I've learned not to start my own instance as I'd have to deal with illegal shit being hosted on it via federation. No thanks.

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xusontha 1 point 3 years ago

I'm pretty sure stuff is only hosted on the instance which the community is created on

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fingers 2 points 3 years ago

But you can still see it on other instances. Or else this entire thing would be pointless.

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DerKanzler 4 points 3 years ago

I mean chrome is not responsible for whatever the shit some websites host.

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gullible 3 points 3 years ago

I’ve been saving a shoebox for just this sort of occasion!

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Kolanaki 1 point 3 years ago

Every time I hear the phrase "spread the load" I keep remembering a scene from a movie where some kid jerks off in his pants and then wipes his jizz on a bunch of books in the library. Can't remember the name of the film, but I remember it had Jeff Daniels in it as the kid's dad and that one scene.

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interdimensionalmeme -5 points 3 years ago

Every Lemmy user should run a single user server instance on their phone. Setting it up should be as easy as installing any other app. And doing this should not depend on any cloud infrastructure beyond DNS

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Zeroxxx -19 points 3 years ago

Too left for my taste anyway 🤮

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VikingHippie 17 points 3 years ago

Yeah, everything looks too left when your vantage point is the far right 🙄

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