Lord Buffalo Drummer ‘Forcibly Removed’ From Plane and Detained by Border Patrol; Band Cancels European Tour

a year ago by symbolic to c/news

Yamal Said, Lord Buffalo's drummer and a legal permanent U.S. resident, was removed from a plane by Border Patrol and has been detained for two days.
QBertReynolds 200 points a year ago

Legal Mexican immigrant: Tries to leave United States.

Border Patrol: Oh no you don't. We need to pad our stats with your deportation.

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NoForwardslashS 157 points a year ago
  1. Why are they removing people from planes leaving the country to detain them.
  2. Wouldn't it be better to just do the European tour and then stay in Europe at this point?
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death 107 points a year ago

Yeah this is the first time I’ve heard of someone being taken while trying to leave the country. Very Kafkaesque.

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13igTyme 109 points a year ago

The Nazis would detain Jews trying to leave the country.

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unexposedhazard 47 points a year ago

This will start happening on all levels. Also with academics for example to prevent the brain drain.

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partial_accumen 20 points a year ago

Also with academics for example to prevent the brain drain.

That seems to be an easy one to bypass: Exit the USA by driving (or walking I suppose through a border checkpoint) over the border to Canada or Mexico. There's no ICE check on roads leaving the USA. There will be border agents from the other country you're entering you will interact with on the other side, but those aren't USA Border agents.

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0x0 8 points a year ago

Not just Jews. Non-whites, Gypsies, gays, communists... you name it.

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SchwertImStein 5 points a year ago

priests

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0x0 1 point a year ago
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GrassCat 43 points a year ago

Hispanic people are being sold to CECOT. It is unequivocal human trafficking and no one is stopping it.

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pelespirit 20 points a year ago

CECOT does not engage in rehabilitation. No prisoner has ever been confirmed to have been released from the facility and authorities have stated in media statements that there are no plans to release any prisoners. Additionally, the imprisonment of deportees from the US is a controversial issue on its own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...

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neons 8 points a year ago

Lends credibility to the rumour that trump demands a certain nimber of arrests per day per person

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PartyAt15thAndSummit 1 point a year ago

Getting some serious Stalin vibes here.

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mriswith 49 points a year ago

Why are they removing people from planes leaving the country to detain them.

Wouldn’t it be better to just do the European tour and then stay in Europe at this point?

Because it's just nazism. They want to imprison and harm non-white people, and they're using "immigration" as an excuse.

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partial_accumen 34 points a year ago

Why are they removing people from planes leaving the country to detain them.

From just my reading of the various news stories around ICE activity I've come to a few conclusions about what the internal policy must be:

Reduce immigrant population in USA by X - Use as close to legal justifications as possible, even the weakest thinnest reasons, but also don't be afraid to simply make stuff up if you need to deport the person. If you can get them out of the country under false reasons, then their ability to get back in becomes much harder even when US government Judicial rulings allow them back because their deportation or deportation lacking in due process was unConstitutional.

So to accomplish this they seem to be operating in this order:

  1. Immigrants picked up by active criminal investigations unrelated to immigration status.
  2. Raids and actions seeking out immigrants who have committed no crimes, but with unsettled legal immigration status.
  3. Immigrants that travel through Border Checkpoint systems: visa renew, Green Card application, even entrances and exit points on the border. These immigrants are then threatened, coerced, or tricked into "voluntarily" surrendering their legal immigrant status at which time they are deported.
  4. Immigrants who may have committed and been convicted of minor crimes, even if many decades prior, where they have served time or otherwise paid their debt to society (even a small fine). Minor guilty plea deal marijuana possession charge from 10-15 years ago are not uncommon justification for deportation here.
  5. Immigrants that are actively engaging with government systems (as in unrelated to justice system). This can be for social services, family services, educations, or even healthcare.

The more desperate ICE becomes to try to accomplish their primary goal, the longer this list gets on where they go and what they do.

So to answer your question about the case here in the OP, my guess is perhaps #3 or #4. We won't know until he's released from custody and is able to tell us.

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Boddhisatva 24 points a year ago
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VeryVito 11 points a year ago

It’s also about disappearing people with multi-syllable surnames.

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WalrusDragonOnABike 7 points a year ago
  1. The official answer would probably essentially be something like "they're a super-criminal who will return to destroy America"
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orbituary 5 points a year ago

They know where they're going to be. The person checks in and they can snag them. There's not a 100% guarantee that the person will be on the return flight home.

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Hawk 5 points a year ago

Why didn't they detain him before he's on the plane though? Plenty of checks and time.

Either they want the theatrics or some racist left a false tip because he didn't want to sit next to some foreign looking dude.

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orbituary 3 points a year ago

I mean, I don't know. How long is a string?

We're all pretty aware that this administration loves to make examples out of people, so I think you have your answer there. Gestapo aren't here to follow the rules.

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ohulancutash -24 points a year ago

Funnily enough European countries have immigration laws too.

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mosiacmango 9 points a year ago

Which European country detained him? How was he treated while being processed by said country?

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ohulancutash -6 points a year ago

As in they couldn’t just stay in Europe after their tour.

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mosiacmango 12 points a year ago

So no European country detained him? Glad we have that straight.

As to your asinine "overstaying in the country" point for the US, he has a green card and has been a legal US resident for 35 years. Its his country of residence. How can he "overstay?"

And lastly, as an entirely extraneous point, he was literally on a plane, leaving the country. How was that in anyway, shape or form "staying in the country" when he was on a vehicle in the literal process of leaving the country?

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JeremyHuntQW12 3 points a year ago
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SalmiakDragon 4 points a year ago

The band member was subject to a magistrate’s order and could not leave the country, as you would find out if you clicked through to the Austin Chronicle.

I found no mention of this, in either article. Where did you see this claim? Doesn't really make sense to plan a tour abroad if it were true.

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simplejack 54 points a year ago

So is this going to be like the other green card holders - someone that publicly criticized the government and then got snatched by the brownshirts?

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TransplantedSconie 42 points a year ago

and also worked as a music instructor and substitute teacher at the Texas School for the Blind.

So glad they forcibly arrested the blatant criminal.

Do i need the /s or does pointing out the fact that he literally worked with blind children do enough?

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GrassCat 41 points a year ago

When are people going to finally start shooting ICE with guns. This needs to happen asap.

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lolcatnip 24 points a year ago

Soon, I bet. But you're pretty much guaranteed to die if you do, so people have to be really desperate.

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SaltSong 18 points a year ago

I've made up my mind already that if they try to take me or my wife, they are gonna have to kill me, and I'm gonna try as hard as I can not too die alone.

Of course, that's big talk from me. I'm weak, overweight, and pasty.

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MutilationWave 9 points a year ago

Arm and train.

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lolcatnip 2 points a year ago

Same. But I'm not expecting them to come for me, or if they do, I expect it to be late enough in the process that's I'll know to expect it. The odds of any particular individual being among the first of their cohort to be attacked are very low.

I'm trying to find ways to think bigger, though, because doing nothing while waiting for them to get around to me isn't the legacy I want to leave.

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FenrirIII 22 points a year ago

There's a reason ICE isn't actually going after gang members.

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pelespirit 24 points a year ago path: 0 17052270, hotness: undefined, score: 24, children: 0
VirgilMastercard 21 points a year ago

Sounds like the Gestapo are just arresting everyone and anyone with a vaguely "foreign" sounding name.

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gobbles_turkey 17 points a year ago

we're going to need reverse coyotes soon to get out of the US.

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